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katatonic
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posted October 19, 2012 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and yes, jwhop, i know, only the democrats are ever guilty of stacking the deck

and only the polls that you agree with are accurate

and only you can extract your head out of the sand.

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katatonic
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posted October 20, 2012 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
another BOSS publicizing his views. note that this one does NOT control YOUR job!

October 17, 2012
A message from Bruce
Dear Friends:

The election is coming up on all of us and we all have strong feelings about it. I’ve been getting asked a lot about where I stand, so for those who are interested, here goes.

This presidential election is different than the last one because President Obama has a four year record to run on. Last time around, he carried with him a tremendous amount of hope and expectations. Unfortunately, due to the economic chaos the previous administration left him with, and the extraordinary intensity of the opposition, it turned into a really rough ride. But through grit, determination, and focus, the President has been able to do a great many things that many of us deeply support.

Domestically, that record includes working to increase and expand employment for all, protecting our all important social safety net, passing guaranteed health care for most of our citizens, with important new protections for all of the insured, rescuing the auto industry and so many of the American jobs that go with it, protecting and enhancing the rights of women, and bringing us closer to full acceptance of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.

In foreign affairs, that record includes following through on the removal of troops from the misguided and deceptive war in Iraq, and vigorously pursuing our real foreign enemies, especially the killing of Osama Bin Laden.

Right now the opposition’s resort to voter suppression in so many states is not receiving as much attention as it deserves. I believe that all of us, of whatever views, should be opposing these anti-voter, anti-citizen efforts.

Right now, for the President to be effective in his next term he needs our increased support and he needs support in the Congress, where some sterling candidates, such as current Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio, challenger Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts, and so many others, are fighting to make their constructive voices heard.

Right now, there is an ever increasing division of wealth in this country, with the benefits going more and more to the 1 percent. For me, President Obama is our best choice to begin to reverse this harmful development.

Right now, there is a fight going on to help make this a fairer and more equitable nation. For me, President Obama is our best choice to get us and keep us moving in the right direction.

Right now, we need a President who has a vision that includes all of our citizens, not just some, whether they are our devastated poor, our pressured middle class, and yes, the wealthy too; whether they are male or female, black, white, brown, or yellow, straight or gay, civilian or military.

Right now, there is a choice going on in America, and I’m happy that we live in a country where we all participate in that process. For me, President Obama is our best choice because he has a vision of the United States as a place where we are all in this together. We’re still living through very hard times but justice, equality and real freedom are not always a tide rushing in. They are more often a slow march, inch by inch, day after long day. I believe President Obama feels these days in his bones and has the strength to live them with us and to lead us to a country “…where no one crowds you and no one goes it alone.”

That’s why I plan to be in Ohio and Iowa supporting the re-election of President Obama to lead our country for the next four years.

Bruce Springsteen

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jwhop
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posted October 21, 2012 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excuse me katatonic but threats of murder and mayhem if O'Bomber loses are beyond the realm of.."stacking the deck".

Algore attempted to "stack the deck" by having vote counters in Florida make subjective decisions about what was a "VOTE" and what was merely a "dimpled or hanging chad". But I don't recall Algore telling his supporters to go out in the streets and pistol whip or kill Bush supporters or Bush if Bush won.

As usual katatonic, you just can't bring yourself to condemn what's not only beyond the pale in elections but is also illegal and amounts to 1st degree murder.

Wow, Bruce Springsteen is an O'Bomber supporter. Well now, that makes all the difference in the world. We'll all have to go out and vote for O'Bomber now...since a loudmouthed leftist moron singer supports O'Bomber.

If you can't trust a loudmouthed leftist moron supporter of O'Bomber to get it right, then who could you possibly trust?

Of course, most of us would tell Bruce baby to shut up and sing and leave heavy lifting...like thinking to those who actually have some functioning brain cells.

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katatonic
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posted October 21, 2012 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what are you talking about? who is pushing riots and mayhem on the left? wasn't it a TEXAS JUDGE who threatened people would be in the streets and facing the troops if OBAMA WON?

if you're talking about a bunch of obviously deranged twitterheads, who you yourself said couldn't possibly be plants (that would go both ways despite your onesided remark) who exactly is going to lose sleep over their opinions??

i have never advocated any such thing and never will. you have the wrong cookie, sir!

yet when the doctor was shot in church you called it "rough justice" and you consistently espouse BEING ARMED against the government. you actually think that you would have assassinated hitler - and that would have solved everything during WWII...

you can continue to pretend i am saying what i am not, but it doesn't wash.

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katatonic
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posted October 21, 2012 05:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
as to springsteen, i posted that as a CONTRAST to BOSSES trying to twist their employees' arms by telling them that a vote for obama was a vote for unemployment.

don't even like the guy myself, but that's beside the point. apparently you missed the point entirely.

i believe springsteen has as much right as anyone else to exercise his FREE SPEECH OPINION? and didn't you say you would defend ANYone's right to that?

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Ami Anne
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posted October 21, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Excuse me katatonic but threats of murder and mayhem if O'Bomber loses are beyond the realm of.."stacking the deck".

Algore attempted to "stack the deck" by having vote counters in Florida make subjective decisions about what was a "VOTE" and what was merely a "dimpled or hanging chad". But I don't recall Algore telling his supporters to go out in the streets and pistol whip or kill Bush supporters or Bush if Bush won.

As usual katatonic, you just can't bring yourself to condemn what's not only beyond the pale in elections but is also illegal and amounts to 1st degree murder.

Wow, Bruce Springsteen is an O'Bomber supporter. Well now, that makes all the difference in the world. We'll all have to go out and vote for O'Bomber now...since a loudmouthed leftist moron singer supports O'Bomber.

If you can't trust a loudmouthed leftist moron supporter of O'Bomber to get it right, then who could you possibly trust?

Of course, most of us would tell Bruce baby to shut up and sing and leave heavy lifting...like thinking to those who actually have some functioning brain cells.



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AcousticGod
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posted October 22, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This morning we have a Conservative Family Foundation too scared to reveal themselves, so their billboard campaign about Voter Fraud is being brought down: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/controversial-voter-fraud-felony-boards-come-down-145621013--election.html

It's also been found that a major Romney bundler is heavily invested in voting machine supplier: http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/10/20/romney-family-investment-ties-to-voting-machine-company-that-could-decide-the-election-causes-concern/

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jwhop
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posted October 22, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More crap from the usual suspects.

Billboards reminding voters that voter fraud is a felony...is voter intimidation?

God, some of you people really do have your heads screwed on backward.

Voter fraud IS A FELONY. The only ones embracing voter fraud are the usual suspects and O'Bomber's marching mushroom morons.

Tell you usual suspects what. If I were a judge and a clear cut case of voter fraud was found by a jury verdict, that fraudster is going to prison for the max sentence...for stealing the legitimate vote of an eligible voter.

Still haven't heard you condemn the attempted intimidation of voters katatonic. Murder and riots and pistol whipping da white folk don't seem to move you much.

Of course, a simple declarative sentence of condemnation would clear it all up.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 22, 2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, I didn't make a judgment here aside from the fact that the purchaser of the billboards was too timid to not be anonymous. They were presented with the option of being forthright, or taking them down, and they went with taking them down.

I think we can all agree that we're already aware that voter fraud is illegal...even without Conservatives posting ad campaigns to reinforce that knowledge.

As for Kat not condemning your non-sequittur argument, I don't blame her. Employers asking their employees to vote one way or fear unemployment is not remotely similar to odd rantings on Twitter where the Tweeter has no influence over anyone.

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posted October 23, 2012 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would do well to let kat speak for herself acoustic.

She's more intelligent than you are and well able to present her own views and make her own case for what she believes.

Get back to me when you're willing to condemn labor unions for telling their members how to vote in local, state and federal elections.

Don't think I didn't notice that you also fail to condemn those threatening and attempting to intimidate voters with threats of murder and riots in the streets if your little Marxist Messiah loses the election.

None of you usual suspects seem capable of condemning your little leftist brothers and sisters no matter what they say or do. After all, it's for a good cause isn't it? The Marxist Messiah O'Bomber needs 4 more years to complete the destruction of the US economy and take America down a peg or two. After all, it's not fair that the US is the world's only super-power.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 23, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would do well to do as I please. Kat already put forth the information I reinforced.

If you've forgotten:

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so a bunch of idiots (if they are not plants) are voicing their pathological wishful thinking on twitter.
they are not your boss threatening you with the loss of your job if you vote for the wrong candidate.. - Kat

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jwhop
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posted October 23, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You didn't reinforce anything acoustic. You can barely stand on your own two feet.

And still, usual suspects here cannot bring themselves to condemn intimidation and outright threats of murder if their little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber loses the election.

Why would anyone be surprised by leftists circling the wagons to protect other leftists?

They also wouldn't condemn a moron leftist twit telling his fellow political activists to lie about Republicans.

DON'T TALK ABOUT REPUBLICAN POLICIES, INSTEAD, CALL THEM RACISTS.

This says everything anyone needs to know about the mindset of leftists. The truth doesn't matter. Only leftist ideology matters.

And that fact alone sets up a resonance in my mind when I see or hear a leftist talking about "values". Clearly, leftists have no values they won't sacrifice for "the cause".

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AcousticGod
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posted October 23, 2012 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're always making stuff up. Telling me what I did or didn't do. I did exactly what I said I did. There is no disputing it.

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And still, usual suspects here cannot bring themselves to condemn intimidation and outright threats of murder if their little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber loses the election.

We can all be quite certain that there are all kinds of people that are inappropriate, violent, and otherwise stupid or evil in both parties. Just as you're not here condemning every bad thing a person of your party does, nor am I or anyone else going to sit here addressing every little thing Conservatives dredge up in hopes of establishing some non-existant moral authority.

Nor should anyone be compelled to think or feel anything on the basis of YOUR morals. You are not our spiritual leader here. Nor will you ever be.

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DON'T TALK ABOUT REPUBLICAN POLICIES, INSTEAD, CALL THEM RACISTS.

Amusing from a guy who hasn't addressed policies when making claims about stuff Obama is implied to have caused. You're a prime example of a person that doesn't address policy.

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This says everything anyone needs to know about the mindset of leftists. The truth doesn't matter. Only leftist ideology matters.

Also rich from the guy that regularly avoids truth in order to promote the Conservative cause whenever possible. Yet another painting the opposing side as having traits you yourself have.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 05, 2015 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a little update on our concerned billionaire:

    David Siegel ups minimum pay to $10 an hour

    David Siegel ups minimum pay to $10 an hour
    Orlando Sentinel staff report
    David Siegel Central Florida Investments, Inc.

    Central Florida time-share magnate David Siegel said Tuesday that he is raising his company's minimum pay to $10 an hour, starting Jan. 1.

    In a news release, Siegel, CEO of Westgate Resorts, said new employees and those currently earning less than $10 per hour will receive the pay increase "with the exception of commissioned and tipped employees or employees covered by a collective bargaining agreement."

    Company officials could not be reached for comment to say how many current employees would be affected.

    "We're experiencing the best year in our history and I wanted to do something to show my gratitude for the employees who make that possible," Siegel said in the release, which also said the company would be awarding merit-pay raises for "all eligible team members." http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-david-siegel-raises-wages-20141014-story.html


Ironically, he also had this to say:

[/irony] #ThanksObama

A bullet point in another article also states:

Democratic Presidents are so difficult for businesses to deal with.

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Catalina
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posted January 12, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes he and many others are crying all the way to the bank and the two-day old republican congress is claiming credit for their recovery.

however another bubble in the wings has caused the lobby-owned congress to pass a clawback on Dodd Frank that will throw the cost of the next reversal back on the taxpayer and bank account holders...apparently banks will be allowed to seize assets of customers to stave off collapse...feeling comfy and cosy, are we?

shame on obama for letting this pass, and thankfully we have some strong senators still in washington.

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