posted April 25, 2013 02:17 PM            

we are giving a lot more money to our representatives and they are abusing it a lot more.

posted April 25, 2013 02:18 PM            

This sort of talk makes me nervous. The middle and upper classes don't use drugs? C'mon.

meth is relatively rare in my neck of the woods.

And I doubt any true drug addiction can be satisfied once a month.

That was my point. There are recreational users and then there are strung out addicts. Exactly how often can I smoke, snort, swallow, or inject something the state doesn't approve of before it cuts off my food stamps? Once a month, once a week, once a day?

posted April 25, 2013 02:19 PM            

@ kat
Amen Baby

My transits are a little messy ATM.

posted April 25, 2013 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:
It is too bad we don't have ethics testing in congress....maybe the Koch bros will pay for it.

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I'd be satisfied with drug testing. Can we drug test congress? Please? Because I'm willing to bet we'll have more than a few positive results.

posted April 25, 2013 02:22 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
too bad we don't have DRUG TESTING IN CONGRESS. half of them are alcoholics and if they're not using prescription (or other)speed as well i'd be very surprised. what else do they take? oxycontin?

we are giving a lot more money to our representatives and they are abusing it a lot more.

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May I give another hearty AMEN! Brothers and sisters

posted April 25, 2013 02:24 PM            

I want to start a thread for you, but I know you don't visit much in the other forums much.....

so i will slip in a birthday greeting visual here:

Yes, this is quite a day for a birthday. This solar return promises to have many exciting and great things in store for you.

posted April 25, 2013 02:29 PM            

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Originally posted by shura:
I'd be satisfied with drug testing. Can we drug test congress? Please? Because I'm willing to bet we'll have more than a few positive results.

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Another AMEN!

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Lower income areas are wrought with drug abuse.
This sort of talk makes me nervous. The middle and upper classes don't use drugs? C'mon.

meth is relatively rare in my neck of the woods.

And I doubt any true drug addiction can be satisfied once a month.

That was my point. There are recreational users and then there are strung out addicts. Exactly how often can I smoke, snort, swallow, or inject something the state doesn't approve of before it cuts off my food stamps? Once a month, once a week, once a day?

Another question: alcohol? Are we weeding out the alcoholics too?

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posted April 25, 2013 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Node:
Munch Munch

Yummy!

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posted April 25, 2013 02:50 PM            

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It's not a privilage or a right, it's common sense and inborn in the human heart.

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I agree.

posted April 25, 2013 03:36 PM            

AG - Being a SAHM is similarly liberating - it's all work that has to be done, it just used to be done all at once in the evening and on the weekend (especially with two, now three, children).
Good luck on the job search!

Re: Testing: If it was going to be used for treatment, I'd be more for it. As it is, it isn't a cost-savings measure: http://www.politifact.com/florida/promises/scott-o-meter/pr omise/600/require-drug-screening-for-welfare-recipients/

As they've been presented/implemented, though, why not kick people out for smoking?
Poor people certainly spend more on cigarettes than on drugs. Or for being alcoholics (for the same reason)?
For finding a doctor feel-good who will prescribe stimulants or opiates?

The kids of these people with these problems have enough going against them - taking away their TANF, WIC, or whatever won't help anything.
The fact is that the parents will likely choose the substance over their kids. Might as well make sure the kids can get some protein.

posted April 25, 2013 04:00 PM            

Some questions:
What about in states in which pot is legal?
What about 20-year-old parents with a drinking problem?

An aside: Child welfare offices are already crap because no one wants to adequately fund and staff them - would you allow for an increase in taxes to cover both the cost of testing and a beefing up of child services?
How about an increase for the extra children placed in foster care?
For their placement, maintanace, and follow-up care?

Another aside: We finished the coop!

posted April 25, 2013 04:15 PM            

Randall, everyone with a criminal record should be denied benefits? Violent crimes, federal crimes, misdemeanors? Are we drawing the line somewhere or are we good with the whole lot?

posted April 25, 2013 04:30 PM            

I certainly don`t begrudge folks in need and am happy to help fund them but I do begrudge those who take advantage of the working man/womans dollar.

I haven`t seen the drug bill yet here so I don`t know the mechanics of it.

I`m sure there is a way to work it to the advantage of the honest and needy.

posted April 25, 2013 05:27 PM            

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Originally posted by katatonic:
t isn't yours in may? or was the 26 something other than your sun?

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kat, yes. I was 26 years old when I joined & my sun is at 26 degrees Taurus.

posted April 25, 2013 05:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Alcohol is legal. Yes, let's reward criminals by paying them not to work. Great idea. And let's fund their criminal enterprise with tax dollars. Another great idea.

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