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jwhop
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posted September 10, 2013 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Israel mimics Nazi Germany more every day, but hey, who's to blame them"...Catalina/katatonic

You become more extreme with each passing day.

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posted September 10, 2013 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
[b]Israel mimics Nazi Germany more every day, but hey, who's to blame them? They were Victims so it must be okay.[/B]

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posted September 11, 2013 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is your big chance to prove you actually know what you're talking about!

How does Israel "mimic" Nazi Germany? Do be specific please...you know like...Israel rounds up Palestinians, puts them in concentration camps then kills them with poison gas.

Go for it!

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posted September 11, 2013 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you read the article? Are you aware of the apartheid in Israel? Now they are insisting one has to prove Jewishness by DNA testing. In other words, being Jewish is no longer enough, you must have the BLOOD of a particular line of Jews. As if blond, blue-eyed Jews weren't persecuted in Germany and the rest of the world...?

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posted September 11, 2013 07:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"Israel mimics Nazi Germany more every day, but hey, who's to blame them"...Catalina/katatonic

You become more extreme with each passing day.


Thank you, Jwhop. I knew someone would have some sense with these knuckleheads

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posted September 11, 2013 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Did you read the article? Are you aware of the apartheid in Israel? Now they are insisting one has to prove Jewishness by DNA testing. In other words, being Jewish is no longer enough, you must have the BLOOD of a particular line of Jews. As if blond, blue-eyed Jews weren't persecuted in Germany and the rest of the world...?


You should go take your hate and use that energy to plant a garden.

You would have tomatoes you could give to your neighbors and do a good deed or two.

Then, you would feel good about yourself and not be immersing yourself in hatred.

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posted September 11, 2013 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Israel and the apartheid analogy is a comparison between Israel's treatment of the Palestinians to South Africa's treatment of non-whites during its apartheid era.[1]
The analogy has been used by scholars, United Nations investigators, human rights groups and critics of Israeli policy, some of which have also accused Israel of committing the crime of apartheid.[2][3] Critics of Israeli policy say that "a system of control" in the Israeli-occupied West Bank, including Jewish-only settlements, the ID system, separate roads for Israeli and Palestinian citizens, military checkpoints, discriminatory marriage law, the West Bank barrier, use of Palestinians as cheap labour, Palestinian West Bank enclaves, inequities in infrastructure, legal rights, and access to land and resources between Palestinians and Israeli residents in the Israeli-occupied territories resembles some aspects of the South African apartheid regime, and that elements of Israel's occupation constitute forms of colonialism and of apartheid, which are contrary to international law.[4] Some commentators extend the analogy, or accusation, to include Arab citizens of Israel, describing their citizenship status as second-class.[12]

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posted September 11, 2013 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
If you don't want to discuss the FACTS, Ami, go try to belittle someone else. For all you know I am a gardener ... projecting your eris AND your pluto transits on others much?


What do you garden? I have a huge garden. I am obsessed. I have everything except the kitchen sink. What about you?

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posted September 11, 2013 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your garden is not in Israel, is it? Why is that?

Thank you for quoting me...I was going to forget your insults and stick to the topic, I suggest you do the same. Facts not speculation.

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posted September 11, 2013 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Your garden is not in Israel, is it? Why is that?

Thank you for quoting me...I was going to forget your insults and stick to the topic, I suggest you do the same. Facts not speculation.



My garden is around my house. My soul's heart is in Israel as are all Jews and all true Born Again Christians.

Anyhoo, back to gardens. What do you grow? I have so many cool things. Do you like hot peppers?

I practically die when I eat the habaneros

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posted September 11, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Come over to Gaai's garden, Katalina and we can talk gardens. It is very personal cuz so few people go and we could really chat. Hope to see you there.

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posted September 11, 2013 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"apartheid", in Israel? You must be totally nuts.

Let me remind the usual Israeli/Jew hating suspects here that there are many Arab citizens of Israel. They are not segregated by Israel and if they are segregated it's because they choose to be. There are no restrictions on Arab citizens of Israel which do not apply to other citizens.

Let me further remind the usual Israeli/Jew hating suspects here that the so called Palestinian camps were set up by and are ADMINISTERED BY THE CORRUPT, INCOMPETENT, BUNGLING UNITED NATIONS.

Let me further remind the usual Israeli/Jew hating suspects here that those camps exist because their Arab brothers and sisters in surrounding nations won't let them come and settle there.

Let me further remind the usual Israeli/Jew hating suspects here that most of those so called Palestinians aren't Palestinians..at least those of older generations. They're Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, Egyptians and some Jordanians.

Take your Israeli "apartheid" and stuff it where the sun don't shine.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Israel could not have survived without Gentiles who supported her.

These Gentiles are called righteous Gentiles and are very special and very honored by the Jewish people.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apartheid is not always by law. You could say that black and Hispanic people CHOOSE to live in segregated communities, or you could say that they are actively discouraged by economics and social stigma from living in "white" neighbourhoods. It is now against the law here to discriminate when selling/renting, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, and often.

Public expressions of Palestinian identity, such as displays of the Palestinian flag or the singing and reciting of nationalist songs or poetry were illegal until recently.[21] wiki

The fact that the discrimination frequently goes BOTH WAYS doesn't eliminate or forgive the situation.
While there is no institutional segregation, Jews and Arabs have chosen to live separately in all but a handful of cities. Israelis all recognize that Arab villages have historically received less funding than Jewish areas and this has affected the quality of Arab schools, infrastructure and social services. Arabs are also underrepresented in higher education and most industries.

Israeli Jews and Arabs have surprisingly little contact with each other. Most young people study at different elementary and secondary schools and may not come into contact with one another until college; by then, many preconceived opinions have been formed. This lack of interaction exacerbates tensions between the two communities.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/arabstat.html

So you don't think insisting on "Jewish DNA" indicates that Israel are trying to establish a Jewish Bloodline as opposed to a Jewish Religion? Why should a Jew who happens to be born to converted parents be considered less Jewish than others?

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posted September 11, 2013 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All that irrelevant anger is not good for your health, Katalina. Think about it

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posted September 11, 2013 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think my Russian grandmother, whose entire family were murdered by cossacks for being Jewish, would find it extremely racist that she would not be considered for Israeli immigration. Although she considered Israel to be a mistake, it was not because she wasn't Jewish enough but because she recognized the hot spot it was destined to become.

And I think she would be insulted by you, jwhop, proud WASP, calling her a Jew hater because she didn't believe Israel was a good idea because of the way it was created. She was a Jewish as they come, in fact it was what her identity revolved around after losing everything else, and she gave thanks for SECULAR America every day of her life here.

So, even after weeding out your disdainful name-calling, I would have to disagree with your premise. The fact that, through my grandFATHER, I would still qualify for citizenshp there doesn't change my disagreement with such a policy.

Judaism is a religion, not a race. The Israeli government moves ever closer to calling it the latter.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I think my Russian grandmother, whose entire family were murdered by cossacks for being Jewish, would find it extremely racist that she would not be considered for Israeli immigration. Although she considered Israel to be a mistake, it was not because she wasn't Jewish enough but because she recognized the hot spot it was destined to become.

And I think she would be insulted by you, jwhop, proud WASP, calling her a Jew hater because she didn't believe Israel was a good idea because of the way it was created. She was a Jewish as they come, in fact it was what her identity revolved around after losing everything else, and she gave thanks for SECULAR America every day of her life here.

So, even after weeding out your disdainful name-calling, I would have to disagree with your premise. The fact that, through my grandFATHER, I would still qualify for citizenshp there doesn't change my disagreement with such a policy.

Judaism is a religion, not a race. The Israeli government moves ever closer to calling it the latter.


Maybe, you are not lying but I don't believe one word of it.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If it is true, they would be ashamed to have an ancestor like you.

There is no Jew who talks like you except a insane one like Son of Sam but he became Born Again, so that leaves no one

Anyhoo, you take care

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posted September 11, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe, you are not lying but I don't believe one word of it.

If it is true, they would be ashamed to have an ancestor like you.
Anyhoo, you take care

Talking cutesy at the end and peace signs do not change the fact that you are rude and insulting. Thanks for complimenting my imagination but I have better things to do than pretend my ancestry.

And I am not their ancestor but their descendant, a little free education for you.

But isn't it ironic that I, by Israeli legal definition, qualify for citizenry even though I have no religious affiliation? It was my grandmother's slavish adherence to her religion that turned my father away from religion altogether.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Descendent. Thank you. Whatever you are, no Jew would want anything to do with you.

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posted September 11, 2013 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyhoo, I am done here. God will take care of the people who hate Israel.

I am going out to put Neem oil on my garden so I can sell my collards to the restaurant down the street.

Shalom Y'all

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posted September 11, 2013 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I reckon, Ami, your mother would be proud of how you talk to people.

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posted September 11, 2013 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I reckon, Ami, your mother would be proud of how you talk to people.


She would but I do have to say that John Kerry hates Israel, too. He wants to see her destroyed, too, by giving away all her land and then being attacked by her enemies until she is pushed into the sea just like you( and another here ) does.

He has one Jewish grandparent, like you say you do, so maybe you are not lying, just in good company.

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posted September 11, 2013 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, she would, in fact you are every bit identical to how you describe her.

Two Jewish grandparents thank you and quite a lot of Jewish family, who have no problem "having anything to do with" me, as apart from my grandmother, they are not fanatics like you.

I understand her and her damaged emotional makeup. Everything but her religion was taken from her.

Don't put words in my mouth or pretend you know what i want for Israel. You once again give away your own nasty superior-race thinking.

I merely said that the Israeli government is alarmingly racist and growing more so not less. Pushing them into the sea is a paranoid's fantasy and those lands Kerry wants Israel to GIVE BACK? arguably were stolen from the Arabs after Israel was given her boundaries, accepted by her as YOU have pointed out.

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posted September 11, 2013 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, she would, in fact you are every bit identical to how you describe her.

Two Jewish grandparents thank you and quite a lot of Jewish family, who have no problem "having anything to do with" me, as apart from my grandmother, they are not fanatics like you.

I understand her and her damaged emotional makeup. Everything but her religion was taken from her.

Don't put words in my mouth or pretend you know what i want for Israel. You once again give away your own nasty superior-race thinking.

I merely said that the Israeli government is alarmingly racist and growing more so not less. Pushing them into the sea is a paranoid's fantasy and those lands Kerry wants Israel to GIVE BACK? arguably were stolen from the Arabs after Israel was given her boundaries, accepted by her as YOU have pointed out.



Since I can't put up songs, I will paraphrase.

Yak, Yak, Yak, Yak


PS Jews are not a race but a religion. You just contradicted yourself ROLFL. Make up your mind


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