posted October 06, 2013 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
In that case...if it were true and it's not true but nevertheless, if true then O'Bomber is in serious violation of the US Constitution for keeping 85% of the federal government open..without the funds having been budgeted for and voted by Congress.

Impeach the little Marxist lawbreaker.

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Dear Lord, Impeach!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted October 06, 2013 08:45 AM            

"Unequivocally false.
Shutdowns have a constitutional basis. Article I, Section 9, which says, "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law." This has been reinforced by the Antideficiency Act, which stems from an 1870 law that has been revised periodically over the years. The act provides exceptions only for "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property."...acoustic

"In that case...if it were true and it's not true but nevertheless, if true (that Republicans sent those 800,000 federal employees home then), O'Bomber is in serious violation of the US Constitution for keeping 85% of the federal government open..without the funds having been budgeted for and voted by Congress...jwhop

You don't get both sides of arguments with me irrational one.

Either Republicans sent those 800,000 employees home...and they do have the authority to withhold funding for any Federal program but Congress has no authority to fire, lay off, furlough, direct or control any Executive Branch employees so they didn't.

On the other hand, O'Bomber is the one who furloughed those 800,000 federal employees, not the Republicans. But, 85% of federal employees are still on the job and getting paid...with no authorizing funding bill from the Congress..per Article 1, Section 9 USC. O'Bomber is way over the line, exceeding his authority and is in clear violation of the US Constitution. Of course, this is just one more instance of O'Bomber violating the US Constitution by exercising power that is not Constitutionally his to exercise.

Impeach the little Marxist Socialist Progressive twit!

"Stupid. Yes, legislation could defund Obamacare, but such legislation has not been passed making your point moot."...acoustic

Imbecilic! The point is not moot. The ongoing fight is about legislation to defund O'BomberCare..along with upholding the 14th Amendment USC which requires all citizens to be treated equally under the laws of the US. O'Bomber is over the line Constitutionally. By granting waivers and exemptions from O'BomberCare provisions to his buds and campaign supporters, he changed O'BomberCare law passed by congress. He has no such legislative powers under the Constitution. By refusing to grant the same waivers to all citizens...a delay of the individual mandates for individuals, O'Bomber violated the 14th Amendment.

Impeach the little Marxist Socialist Progressive twit.

posted October 06, 2013 09:10 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
O'Bomber sent those 800,000 federal employees home, not Republicans...but 85% of the federal employee workforce is still on the job and not shut down.

"Unequivocally false.
Shutdowns have a constitutional basis. Article I, Section 9, which says, "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law." This has been reinforced by the Antideficiency Act, which stems from an 1870 law that has been revised periodically over the years. The act provides exceptions only for "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property."...acoustic

"In that case...if it were true and it's not true but nevertheless, if true (that Republicans sent those 800,000 federal employees home then), O'Bomber is in serious violation of the US Constitution for keeping 85% of the federal government open..without the funds having been budgeted for and voted by Congress...jwhop

You don't get both sides of arguments with me irrational one.

Either Republicans sent those 800,000 employees home...and they do have the authority to withhold funding for any Federal program but Congress has no authority to fire, lay off, furlough, direct or control any Executive Branch employees so they didn't.

On the other hand, O'Bomber is the one who furloughed those 800,000 federal employees, not the Republicans. But, 85% of federal employees are still on the job and getting paid...with no authorizing funding bill from the Congress..per Article 1, Section 9 USC. O'Bomber is way over the line, exceeding his authority and is in clear violation of the US Constitution. Of course, this is just one more instance of O'Bomber violating the US Constitution by exercising power that is not Constitutionally his to exercise.

Impeach the little Marxist Socialist Progressive twit!

"Stupid. Yes, legislation could defund Obamacare, but such legislation has not been passed making your point moot."...acoustic

Imbecilic! The point is not moot. The ongoing fight is about legislation to defund O'BomberCare..along with upholding the 14th Amendment USC which requires all citizens to be treated equally under the laws of the US. O'Bomber is over the line Constitutionally. By granting waivers and exemptions from O'BomberCare provisions to his buds and campaign supporters, he changed O'BomberCare law passed by congress. He has no such legislative powers under the Constitution. By refusing to grant the same waivers to all citizens...a delay of the individual mandates for individuals, O'Bomber violated the 14th Amendment.

Impeach the little Marxist Socialist Progressive twit.

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posted October 07, 2013 09:22 AM            

Bush, (W) never committed any high crimes or misdemeanors for which he could be impeached.

On the other hand, your little Marxist Messiah has violated his oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the United States, committed felonies both under US and International law, usurped the powers of Congress to unilaterally change laws passed by Congress, made appointments to his administration without the consent of Congress, used the machinery of the federal government to harass, intimidate and punish his political opponents and used the machinery of government to spy on ordinary citizens...and the press without warrants or constitutional authority.

posted October 07, 2013 01:30 PM            

Of course Fox does its best to softpedal the shutdown by calling it a "slimdown" (which is what the Repubs say they and "the american people" want)...as in that medical survey that emphasized the WHOPPING 19% of docs who think people MIGHT die earlier under the ACA (great reading which also shows that 81% don't)

Trouble is, the "american people" are just a little frustrated that despite more votes for democrats so many republicans got into their gerrymandered seats. They are just a little ticked off that Congress is collecting its pay though it appears to be the LEAST ESSENTIAL dept of govt at the moment due to its fondness for treading water and preventing government from working at any time, shutdown or not.

And sorry, but too many people remember the ghoulish circus of Clinton's impeachment...which ultimately failed after wasting all that time.

posted October 07, 2013 01:46 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
There's only one teeny tiny problem with your premise Node.

Bush, (W) never committed any high crimes or misdemeanors for which he could be impeached.

On the other hand, your little Marxist Messiah has violated his oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the United States, committed felonies both under US and International law, usurped the powers of Congress to unilaterally change laws passed by Congress, made appointments to his administration without the consent of Congress, used the machinery of the federal government to harass, intimidate and punish his political opponents and used the machinery of government to spy on ordinary citizens...and the press without warrants or constitutional authority.

There, that should make a good bill of particulars for a Bill of Impeachment...and every single one of them is documented and provable.

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Man, NOBama NEEDS to be impeached more than anything has ever needed to be done in this country!!

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posted October 07, 2013 02:07 PM            

You really should try to get out more. Just so you know, the majority does not approve of the Marxist Messiah's job performance...41% approve 52% disapprove.

Further, an even larger majority don't want anything to do with O'Bomber's Abomination...O'BomberCare.

Btw, the most hateful people on earth are your comrades, the Socialist Progressives and if you press that issue with me again, I'll post..right here all the hateful crap the hare brained loon demoscats in congress have said...and are saying.

So, you're just whistling in the wind.

"Anyway, you want Joe Biden as president?"...Catalina/katatonic

So, you're saying Joe "Plugs" O'Biden is job security for the Marxist Messiah, O'Bomber?

posted October 07, 2013 02:56 PM            

“What we’re not for is negotiating with people with a bomb strapped to their chest.”
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/09/27/top-white-house-adviser-dan-pfeiffer-compares-gop-suicide-bombers

Democrats Call Tea Party Terrorists: Hey Obama, How’s that Chilling Out on the Rhetoric Working Out on YOUR Side of the Isle

Obama, talking about the debt ceiling debate: Obama tell’s the nation via live news confernce that ”the Repubicans are putting guns against the heads of the American people.

John Walsh called the GOP’s position “hostage taking” and Chris Matthews went on to say “I agree. It’s terrorism”.
http://specfriggintacular.wordpress.com/2011/08/01/democrats-call-tea-party-terrorists-hey-obama-hows-that-chilling-out-on-the-rhetoric-working-out-on-your-side-of-the-isle/

The 95 Democrat terrorists and suicide bombers who voted against raising the debt ceiling in the House

Over the past few weeks, far left Democrat Marxists continued to make claims that refusing the raise the debt ceiling made Republicans terrorists, suicide bombers and various other slanderous names.
http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2011/08/01/the-95-democrat-terrorists-and-suicide-bombers-who-voted-against-raising-the-debt-ceiling-in-the-house/

It's time to call the House Republicans what they are: terrorists
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/21/1240466/-It-s-time-to-call-the-Republicans-what-they-are-terrorists#

New Tone… Newsweek Editor-in Chief Says Republicans Are “Suicide Bombers”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/07/new-tone-newsweek-editor-in-chief-says-republicans-are-suicide-bombers-video/

George Miller (D-CA), one of the longer serving liberal dinosaurs in Congress, today referred to Republicans as "jihadists" over their efforts to defeat Obamacare.
http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2013/10/who-are-jihadists.html

House Democrat Leaders: Tea Partiers Are Racist, Nazi, Gun Nuts
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/04/house_democrat_leaders_tea_par.asp

Third Democratic official reportedly likens Republicans to Nazis

Another Democratic official on Wednesday invoked Nazis while describing Republicans, in the third such incident this week as Democratic leaders gathered in Charlotte for their national convention....

South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Dick Harpootlian compared the state’s Republican female governor, Nikki Haley, to Adolf Hitler’s mistress and eventual wife, while speaking Wednesday at a delegation breakfast in Charlotte, according to The State newspaper.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/05/third-democratic-party-official-reportedly-likens-republicans-to-nazis-at/

I can keep posting the words of hate filled demoscats all day and all night. There's that many of them.

You little Socialist Progressives have very thin skins. You believe you and your icon Socialists can say anything and be immune from being fired back on.

That's not happening so buckle up, there's going to be incoming.

posted October 07, 2013 06:39 PM            

Demoscats are the most hate filled creatures on earth..and the most thin skinned. But, I don't hate them. I pity them so don't mistake pity for hate.

On the other hand, I don't mind playing the demoscat game but if you, the rest of the usual suspects and O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers can't stand the heat...then stay out of the kitchen.

posted October 08, 2013 01:00 PM            

"At first, the government shutdown only seemed to affect bureaucrats in Washington. But the longer it persists, the more it is harming ordinary people who never knew they had a stake in Washington’s nauseating political battles.

The government has told about 60 home owners in southern Nevada, for instance, that they need to leave their property for the duration of the shutdown, because their homes sit on federal land in the Lake Mead Recreational Area. Since Lake Mead is managed by the feds, anybody who happens to own a home within its boundaries is technically a “visitor” subject to the same lockout that applies to tourists, hikers, campers or sportsmen seeking access to federal land."
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/shutdown-threatens-home-owners-205824755.html

posted October 08, 2013 01:12 PM            

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posted October 08, 2013 11:40 PM            

O'Bomber's latest outrage is cutting off funds for the families of US military personnel slain in the line of duty. Not even funds to bury their slain family member.

And this outrage happens AFTER Congress passed bills to pay our military personnel..including funding for families.

Impeach this little Marxist Socialist Progressive clown tomorrow.

Rumsfeld: Denial of Benefits to Fallen Soldiers' Families 'Inexcusable'
Tuesday, 08 Oct 2013 07:57 PM
Lisa Furgison, Cathy Burke and Todd Beamon

Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday said it was "inexcusable" for the Obama administration to refuse to pay death benefits to families of the five soldiers who died in Afghanistan over the weekend.

"I just can't imagine a decision-making process that would produce those outcomes," Rumsfeld, who served as Secretary of Defense under Presidents Gerald Ford and George W. Bush, told Fox News' "On the Record."

"It's so unfair — to the families, to the veterans, to the soldiers."

He told host Greta Van Susteren that the White House was "clearly picking and choosing what they want to do. They're making decisions that clearly fit their political agenda."

The government shutdown has stopped families of fallen soldiers from receiving a $100,000 death benefit.

Shannon Collins lost her 19-year-old son to the war over the weekend. Marine Lance Cpl. Jeremiah Collins Jr. died Saturday while supporting combat missions in Afghanistan.

In total, the loved ones of five military members slain over the weekend will be denied the benefit because of the shutdown, The Washington Times reported.

After her son's death, Collins got a letter from the government saying the $100,000 death benefit typically issued within 36 hours of a soldier's death wasn't coming.

"The government is hurting the wrong people," she told NBC's Today Show.

"Families shouldn’t have to worry about how they’re going to bury their child," she said. "Families shouldn’t have to worry about how they're going to feed their family if they don't go to work this week."

The one-time lump sum of money is meant to help families with funeral expenses and offer financial support to the family until survivor benefits begin.

One military official said he was "disgusted" the by news.

"Impacting grieving families when they are at their absolute weakest point is just disgusting," said Joe Davis, a spokesman for the Veterans of Foreign Wars, the largest organization of combat veterans in the United States.

"Veterans, military personnel, and now their families are not to be used as leverage in this political game of blame," he said.

The Department of Defense says it is aware of the problem.

"The department does not currently have the authority to pay death gratuities for the survivors of service members killed in action – typically a cash payment of $100,000 paid within three days of the death of a service member," a Pentagon news release said.

"Secretary [of Defense Chuck] Hagel assured the service leaders that he would work closely with them to address these challenges and support the service members and families impacted by these disruptions," the release said.

But one foreign relations official was shocked by the lapse.

"On the anniversary of America’s longest war, in Afghanistan, a battle that barely brushes against most Americans' lives, soldiers heading into the fight face greater uncertainty than ever before," Gayle Tzemach Lemmon, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, wrote on the website Defense One on Monday.

"That includes the central question of what happens to their families if they don’t make it home."

The death benefit is considered only transition aid until the military's survivor benefits begin, but Lemmon said the shutdown is even threatening that obligation.

"[If] the shutdown continues into November, monthly survivor benefits are in jeopardy because the Department of Veterans Affairs has warned it will be out of cash to pay them," she wrote.

"Never before has America faced a government at war and a government shutdown at the same time. Even if much of America forgets the former while enduring the latter, the grim truth of these dueling realities is that they should not coexist given Washington's central role in prosecuting America’s conflicts."

Pentagon Comptroller Bob Hale was distraught over the situation, The Hill reported.

"We have some heart-rending situations that we are not allowed, by law, to pay death gratuities," Hale told reporters last week, adding the "Pay Our Military Act" did not change the situation.

"We've had a number of people die recently and we will be able to pay them, but not until the lapse of appropriation ends," Hale said.

Besides the Marine's death Saturday, four other military members were killed Sunday by an IED in southern Afghanistan, Lemmon said.

Republican lawmakers such as Rep. Duncan Hunter of California say a bill passed right before the shutdown to keep military pay intact should include death benefits.

"The Department of Defense, through a careless legal interpretation, is now mistakenly denying payments of death gratuity and other benefits to the families of those who make the ultimate sacrifice," Hunter told The Hill.

"Since DoD has determined that it cannot provide this benefit, I am at a loss about why DoD did not take a more active role in notifying Congress and insisting that changes in law occur immediately," Hunter said.

House GOP aides said new legislation is now being drafted to specifically fund the death benefits during the shutdown, and one aide said it could be on the House floor as soon as Wednesday, The Hill reported.

Meanwhile, the shutdown also was affecting veterans' services.

The Department of Veterans Affairs on Tuesday furloughed 7,000 workers who process compensation claims, USA Today reported.