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jwhop
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posted October 04, 2013 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So our little Marxist Messiah..who can't get his way with Republicans on O'BomberCare decided to shut down parts of the US government which many Americans need or enjoy. Even telling park rangers to..."
make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

“We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

Of course, Republicans have been passing bills in the US House to reopen and keep open critical parts of government O'Bomber and Hairy Reid want kept closed to increase the pain to Americans. O'Bomber has threatened to veto those bills and Hairy Reid declares them dead on arrival in the Senate.

These ass clowns have even attempted to close privately owned historical sites. Oh, and prevent WWII vets who are in their 90s from visiting their own memorial in DC. The ass clowns screech about not having money to keep the memorial open...but they have money to spend on fencing and a squad of park rangers to keep the WWII vets out.

In a contemptible display of pique, Hairy Reid..Senate Majority Leader was asked why he wouldn't go along with the Republican bill to reopen the National Institute of Health which treats babies for cancer. A wide awake reporter asked Hairy why not...if it would help even one baby with cancer.
Hairy Reid's answer...

"NOW WHY WOULD I WANT TO DO THAT"

These lying Socialist demoscats are forever attempting to wrap themselves in the mantle of "compassion". Liars one and all!

PRUDEN: The cheap tricks of the game
Thursday, October 3, 2013

The games politicians play: Barack Obama is having a lot of fun using the government shutdown to squeeze the public in imaginative ways. The point of the shutdown game is to see who can squeeze hardest, make the most pious speech and listen for the applause. It’s a variation on the grade-school ritual of “you show me yours, and I’ll show you mine.”

President Obama is not a bad poker player, but the man with all the chips always starts with the advantage (and he gets all the aces). He has closed Washington down as tight as he dares, emphasizing the trivial and the petty in making life as inconvenient as he can for the greatest number. It’s all in a noble cause, of course. Access to most of the memorials is limited, and often in curious ways. The Lincoln Memorial is easy to reach, with the streets around it remaining open. But the Martin Luther King Memorial is made difficult to reach, relegating it, you might say, to the back of the bus. Not very nice.

The Park Service appears to be closing streets on mere whim and caprice. The rangers even closed the parking lot at Mount Vernon, where the plantation home of George Washington is a favorite tourist destination. That was after they barred the new World War II Memorial on the Mall to veterans of World War II. But the government does not own Mount Vernon; it is privately owned by the Mount Vernon Ladies' Association. The ladies bought it years ago to preserve it as a national memorial. The feds closed access to the parking lots this week, even though the lots are jointly owned with the Mount Vernon ladies. The rangers are from the government, and they’re only here to help.

“It’s a cheap way to deal with the situation,” an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

The Republicans, fighting with smaller-bore weaponry, keep trying to get some things reopened with carefully targeted legislation. The Senate, under the thumbs of Sen. Harry Reid and the White House, refuses to budge from the trivial and the petty. It says here that Harry Reid’s critics, and they are legion, should give the guy a break. No man in Washington is under the pressure he is, and it doesn’t seem quite cricket to do that to an old man, even one who deserves it.

Harry is at the breaking point, weary from exhausting his thesaurus for synonyms for “arsonist” and “terrorist” and “pillager.” Everyone could see the cracks in his exchange with Dana Bash, a reporter for CNN, who asked why, if he is concerned about children with cancer who are unable to enter clinical trials for new drugs because Mr. Obama shut down the National Institutes of Health, why stifle Republican attempts to grant a little relief?

“If you can help one child who has cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?” the reporter asked.

“Why would we want to do that?” Mr. Reid snapped back. “I have 1,100 people at Nellis Air Force Base that are sitting home. They have a few problems of their own. This is — to have someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing maybe means you’re irresponsible and reckless.”

Over the next two days, Mr. Reid tried to take back, change, adjust and recalibrate his remarks. It’s all John Boehner’s fault. The senator cares not just about the National Institutes of Health, but the Centers for Disease Control, too. The senator likes babies. In fact, he’s quite a stud. And he thinks Dana Bash is “a fine reporter.”

“Listen, I gave a speech on the [Senate] floor, talking about babies, 30 babies. I have 16 of my own grandchildren, and five children.” So suffer the little children, and they will inherit the kingdom of heaven; they just can’t come unto the Senate while Harry stands in the door. (If what happens in Las Vegas is supposed to stay in Las Vegas, how did Harry get out?)

Frustration turned violent Thursday, when a woman rammed her car into a barricade at the White House and then led 20 police cruisers up Pennsylvania Avenue to take a run at the Capitol. Shots were fired. It was not quite clear what she was mad about, but there’s no shortage of prospects. No targets of her rage were hurt, though the cops killed her. It was an unhappy third day of Obamacare.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/3/pruden-the-cheap-tricks-of-the-game/

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posted October 04, 2013 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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anytime we say yes to something, we’re saying no to something else.
So when you say yes to a happy hour, you’re saying no to <insert your choice of workout>. When you say yes to a crappy review from your boss, you’re saying no to getting acknowledged for the great work that was overlooked. When you say yes to watching pointless reality TV shows, you’re saying no to doing the dishes. Or if you say yes to staying late at the office, you’re saying no to your relationship.




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posted October 04, 2013 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ass clowns and their dullard followers are now looking for sob stories to tell America.

Tell us how the partial government shutdown has hurt you!

What pathetic losers these Marxist Socialist Progressives are.

All O'Bomber and Reid...the 2 ass clowns who really shut down the government need to do to reopen the whole thing is agree to a couple of things.

1. Delay the individual mandate for 1 year...as O'Bomber has already mandated for selected businesses.

2. Put Congress and congressional staff on the very same plan O'BomberCare prescribes for the rest of America.

White House asking for sad shutdown stories
By ASHE SCHOW | OCTOBER 4, 2013 AT 2:27 PM

(AP/Susan Walsh) “How has the government shutdown affected you?”

That's the question posted Thursday at 7:50 p.m. on the [n]White House blog by Nathaniel Lubin, acting director of digital strategy for the Obama administration.[/b]

Don’t forget that at the top of the blog, a handy little disclaimer notes that “due to Congress’s failure to pass legislation to fund the government, the information on this web site may not be up to date.”

Looks like it’s perfectly up to date.

Also remember that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., won't bring up any resolutions that would fund government programs such as national parks and veterans' services.

So, while hundreds of thousands of Americans are furloughed for being “non-essential,” the White House has found asking for their stories to be “essential.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-asking-for-sad-shutdown-stories/article/2536836

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posted October 04, 2013 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
The ass clowns and their dullard followers are now looking for sob stories to tell America.

Tell us how the partial government shutdown has hurt you!

What pathetic losers these Marxist Socialist Progressives are.

All O'Bomber and Reid...the 2 ass clowns who really shut down the government need to do to reopen the whole thing is agree to a couple of things.

1. Delay the individual mandate for 1 year...as O'Bomber has already mandated for selected businesses.

2. Put Congress and congressional staff on the very same plan O'BomberCare prescribes for the rest of America.

[b]White House asking for sad shutdown stories
By ASHE SCHOW | OCTOBER 4, 2013 AT 2:27 PM

(AP/Susan Walsh) “How has the government shutdown affected you?”

That's the question posted Thursday at 7:50 p.m. on the [n]White House blog by Nathaniel Lubin, acting director of digital strategy for the Obama administration.[/b]

Don’t forget that at the top of the blog, a handy little disclaimer notes that “due to Congress’s failure to pass legislation to fund the government, the information on this web site may not be up to date.”

Looks like it’s perfectly up to date.

Also remember that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., won't bring up any resolutions that would fund government programs such as national parks and veterans' services.

So, while hundreds of thousands of Americans are furloughed for being “non-essential,” the White House has found asking for their stories to be “essential.”
http://washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-asking-for-sad-shutdown-stories/article/253 6836

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If it was not for a pure wise souls like Jwhop and a few others here, someone like me would lose my mind

PS Elizabeth Warren is the disgrace of disgraces.

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posted October 04, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah Ami, the self professed Indian Princess. Liz Warren is a real mess.

The only problem is...the Indian tribe Warren claims to share bloodlines with says she's full of crap.

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posted October 04, 2013 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She's not the only one that's full of crap, especially in this thread.

It's plain delusional to conclude Democrats are going to get burned on the shut down perpetrated by the Republicans. Do you really need to try to believe something else in order to sleep at night?

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posted October 04, 2013 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yeah Ami, the self professed Indian Princess. Liz Warren is a real mess.

The only problem is...the Indian tribe Warren claims to share bloodlines with says she's full of crap.



I didn't know that but anyhoo, you talked to me

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posted October 04, 2013 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well Ami, it's always a good day when you learn something...unless you're a leftist. In which case they don't want to be confused with facts which blow their crackpot theories and initiatives out of the water.

"Warren is not listed as an official member of the Cherokee tribe and she has been unable thus far to document her claim of any Native American heritage.

News of Warren’s Cherokee recipes comes as outraged members of the tribe — including a Warren supporter — demanded she release her employment records following reports that she has no documentation to prove her Native American ancestry."
http://michellemalkin.com/2012/05/17/elizabeth-warren-cherokee-heritage/

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise! Voters in the taxaholic state of Massachusetts didn't care if Liz Warren was lying about her Indian heritage of not. They elected one of the dumbest women in the Congress to represent them. Between Warren, Boxer and Pee-Lousy..former House Speaker, it's a real race to determine who is dumb, dumber or dumbest.

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posted October 04, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Republicans just want fairness for all. It's the Dems who shut down the government instead of allowing the individual mandate the same year delay as Obama gave his special interests.

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posted October 04, 2013 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"It's plain delusional to conclude Democrats are going to get burned on the shut down perpetrated by the Republicans. Do you really need to try to believe something else in order to sleep at night?"..acoustic

Excuse me non-thinker but O'Bomber is the President in charge of the Executive Branch...which he partially shut down.

The Constitution gives no power and no authority to the US House of Representatives
to shut down the Federal government.

They may of course refuse to fund wasteful, bad programs...like O'BomberCare but the House Republicans did not shut down the federal government. O'Bomber and Hairy Reid did that.

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posted October 04, 2013 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"It's plain delusional to conclude Democrats are going to get burned on the shut down perpetrated by the Republicans. Do you really need to try to believe something else in order to sleep at night?"..acoustic

Excuse me non-thinker but O'Bomber is the President in charge of the Executive Branch...which he partially shut down.

The Constitution gives no power and no authority to the US House of Representatives
to shut down the Federal government.

They may of course refuse to fund wasteful, bad programs...like O'BomberCare but the House Republicans did not shut down the federal government. O'Bomber and Hairy Reid did that.


This seems obvious

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posted October 04, 2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Republicans aren't looking for fairness for all Randall. Fairness for all includes equal treatment. We should all have insurance. Faulty premise.

Jwhop, what you wrote is so obviously, glaringly wrong that I'm frankly surprised you composed it. You can't put a lick of blame on Obama at this point as he has not seen a bill, and House Republicans are far more at fault than Harry Reid. Harry Reid didn't say, "I'm not gonna fund this duly enacted process of government." That was your guys following the lead of the now disgraced Ted Cruz. The guys that aren't acting in good faith will be held accountable for this. Everyone knows this. If you think otherwise, you are delusional. Plain and simple.

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This seems obvious

...It seems obviously stupid.

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posted October 04, 2013 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fairness for all wouldn't mean employers get a break from the mandate for a year, now would it? Obamacare does not ensure healthcare for all. Far from it.

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Largely because republicans were losing their lunch at the very thought of single payer, a far simpler more elegant way of insuring everyone. Instead we have the repubican idea of healthcare reform, complete with mandate, which appeals tothe big business insurance companies much more. And is categorically not as "fair for all".

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"Jwhop, what you wrote is so obviously, glaringly wrong that I'm frankly surprised you composed it. You can't put a lick of blame on Obama at this point as he has not seen a bill,"...acoustic

What I said is 100% correct, legally and Constitutionally. The House of Representatives does not have the authority to shut down the Executive Branch of the Federal government. O'Bomber is the person who sent all those 800,000 federal employees home, not the Republicans.

And..oh Pleasssse, don't give me any crap about O'Bomber not having seen a bill from the Republicans. Those House bills to fund the federal government are residing on Hairy Reid's desk in the Senate. O'Bomber is the ass clown who has stated he will veto any bill which does not fully fund O'BomberCare and it's no secret what's in those House bills. So, O'Bomber knows.

Oh, but O'Bomber says he wants to work with Republicans on the impasse...as long as Republicans give him everything he wants. Now, that's real compromise...Marxist style.

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posted October 05, 2013 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama is not worried about "funding" the ACA at all. IT IS ALREADY FUNDED. Small detail, I know, but your virgo merc should be up to those even though it is combust your Leo sun and opposite your saturn...or is that square?

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Obama is not worried about "funding" the ACA at all. IT IS ALREADY FUNDED. Small detail, I know, but your virgo merc should be up to those even though it is combust your Leo sun and opposite your saturn....Catalina/katatonic

You've fallen for another O'Bomber...demoscat concocted lie I see.

Listen up, any current legislative enactment supersedes any previous legislative enactment on the same subject.

Thus, past congresses cannot bind current and future congresses to do anything...as in this case..fund O'BomberCare. Further, just because there was money in the budget for O'BomberCare for this year and future years, that doesn't mean that O'BomberCare money cannot be removed by the current or future congress(es) by legislative action.

You really need to "THINK" about the lie you've been told...and are attempting to spread here.

If O'BomberCare is ALREADY FUNDED and therefore cannot be DEFUNDED then pray tell, why is O'Bomber threatening to veto any bill to DEFUND O'BomberCare.

Now, speaking about combustion, go pour some water on your head. Your brain is smoking and smoking isn't good for your health!

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posted October 05, 2013 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I won the biggest prize of all. Catalina is ignoring me

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Just wait Ami, I'm pretty sure Catalina/katatonic won't be able to resist sniping at you for long.

So now, we see the full blown range of pain on America the little Marxist Messiah and wannabee dictator wants to inflict.

This is just an absurd abuse of authority and is nowhere authorized by the Constitution.

It might be authorized if martial law was declared but who in their right mind would suggest martial law should be declared because the majority of Americans don't want the little Marxist Messiah's O'BomberCare.

Feds Try to Close the OCEAN Because of Shutdown
Mike Flynn 5 Oct 2013

Just before the weekend, the National Park Service informed charter boat captains in Florida that the Florida Bay was "closed" due to the shutdown. Until government funding is restored, the fishing boats are prohibited from taking anglers into 1,100 square-miles of open ocean. Fishing is also prohibited at Biscayne National Park during the shutdown.

The Park Service will also have rangers on duty to police the ban of access to an ocean. The government will probably use more personnel and spend more resources to attempt to close the ocean, than it would in its normal course of business.

This is governing by temper-tantrum. It is on par with the government's ham-fisted attempts to close the DC WWII Memorial, an open-air public monument that is normally accessible 24 hours a day. By accessible I mean, you walk up to it. When you have finished reflecting, you then walk away for it.

At least that Memorial is an actual structure, with some kind of perimeter that can be fenced off. Florida Bay is the ocean. How, pray tell, do you "close" 1,100 square miles of ocean? Why would one even need to do so?

Apparently, according to an anonymous Park Service ranger, “We’ve been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It’s disgusting.”

Centuries ago, King Canute famously failed to command the ocean tide to stop. His display was actually a means to educate his subjects on the limits of royal power. Today, however, our President actually believes he has the power to control the oceans.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/05/Feds-Try-to-Close-the-OCEAN-Because-of-Shutdown

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Wrong, jwhop. The money has been allocated already, as Michelle Bachmann complained loudly when she discovered said fact.

The reason to veto such a bill would be because it is complete hooey. No more reason needed. The only possible way to execute a defunding bill would be to demand return from all the agencies/states that have already spent it. This would be mayhem and the attempt to pass such a bill, criminal attempt to break the government.

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posted October 05, 2013 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just wait Ami, I'm pretty sure Catalina/katatonic won't be able to resist sniping at you for long.

I am enjoying the hiatus, Jwhop

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posted October 05, 2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, my relationship with Cata has a larger meaning. If someone bullies you, you get in their face with all you have, whatever those gifts may be, and you make them live to regret it, such that they run away from you.

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"Wrong, jwhop. The money has been allocated already, as Michelle Bachmann complained loudly when she discovered said fact."...Catalina/katatonic

Wrong again! Money which has been allocated but not yet spent can be and in the case of O'BomberCare should be deleted from the budget...or applied to some other needed program.

Of course the agencies which already spent money on O'BomberCare wouldn't have to give it back if O'BomberCare were defunded today.

We don't do ex post facto laws in the United States.

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O'Bomber is the person who sent all those 800,000 federal employees home, not the Republicans.

Unequivocally false.

    Shutdowns have a constitutional basis, from Article I, Section 9, which says, "No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law." This has been reinforced by the Antideficiency Act, which stems from an 1870 law that has been revised periodically over the years. The act provides exceptions only for "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property."

    ...

    But in 1980 and 1981, then-Attorney General Benjamin Civiletti issued two opinions that required agency heads to suspend operations until funding began to flow again.

    The only activities that could go forward, Civiletti wrote, were those where there is a connection "between the function to be performed and the safety of human life or the protection of property," or where otherwise "authorized by law." http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/oct/04/newt-gingrich/newt-gingrich-says-late-speaker-tip-oneill-served-/

Though it would be nice for the Administration to consider more things to be critical to protecting human life, it is not the President that makes the determination to send people home.

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And..oh Pleasssse, don't give me any crap about O'Bomber not having seen a bill from the Republicans.

I didn't. I said that there has been no bill presented to him for ratification. Another reason your fanciful delusion about responsibility is completely wrong.

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posted October 05, 2013 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thus, past congresses cannot bind current and future congresses to do anything...as in this case..fund O'BomberCare. Further, just because there was money in the budget for O'BomberCare for this year and future years, that doesn't mean that O'BomberCare money cannot be removed by the current or future congress(es) by legislative action.

You really need to "THINK" about the lie you've been told...and are attempting to spread here.


Stupid. Yes, legislation could defund Obamacare, but such legislation has not been passed making your point moot.

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