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Catalina
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posted December 23, 2013 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The rabid prolifers insist that the patents be allowed to treat their children in whatever way they deem fit without interference...in many cases abusively. However they deny those who think it would be cruelty to complete a pregnancy (either for the health of child.or mother/other existing children) the right to that decision.

As Linda G said, the soul does not enter the body until the pregnancy is fully viable...and leaves to try snother vessel if aborted. Who has the right to deny THIS belief? You? Me? The government? Not their business imo.

But still no sight of Harris-Perry campaigning for infanticide...

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posted December 23, 2013 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
No, it's just something I see on the horizon if Obamacare lasts.


Ok and I`m sure you are not alone.
Me, I see it as fear based.

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posted December 23, 2013 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me, I see it as fear based.

Facing what is is not fear based, but wisdom

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posted December 23, 2013 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Projecting a nasty future is not facing what is.
It is the same as praying for a negative outcome. Ie, fearmongering

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posted December 23, 2013 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Projecting a nasty future is not facing what is.
It is the same as praying for a negative outcome. Ie, fearmongering


Tell that to the people who SAW Hitler's Germany and tried to warn people. You are sooooooooooooooo clueless that you would try the patience of the Dalia Lama


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posted December 23, 2013 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dalia lama? Good one, flower!

There has been about 7 decades of universal health coverage in most of the civilized world since Hitler and none of what you're so scared of has happened in those countries, so sorry to disappoint but it is scaremongering not "wisdom" to equate the ACA with the Nazi master race plan. Its not even universal healthcare just a way of making insurance coverage worth having.

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posted December 23, 2013 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cata
You will never have the acumen to see beyond your nose.

Remember the things I said to you. They will ALL come true.

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posted December 23, 2013 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't want to be mean Ami but I find your ghoulish attachment to Calamity merits you change your name to Jane. While its wisdom to be aware of possibilities it is hysteria to resign yourself to disaster. The rapture man died the other day, another false prophet.

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posted December 23, 2013 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The rapture man died the other day, another false prophet.

Did you catch his on camera apology ?

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posted December 23, 2013 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Don't want to be mean Ami but I find your ghoulish attachment to Calamity merits you change your name to Jane. While its wisdom to be aware of possibilities it is hysteria to resign yourself to disaster. The rapture man died the other day, another false prophet.

You are not supposed to set a time but know a SEASON.

That is what the discerning Christian should do, for the information of those who have no idea what the Bible says


PS I am actually writing an article on Bible Prophecy as we speak. People are soooo ignorant of this. It is sad.

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posted December 23, 2013 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No I vaguely remember hearing about one after the last fizzle. Did he also return his followers' assets?

This prediction of the Rapture has been a full on failure many times since it was invented in the 19th c...as has the end of the world, repeatedly, since practically the beginning of time.

I'm not saying there is nothing to be concerned about but I have run out of patience with overweaning paranoia, and especially the apparent relish of those pushing it.

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posted December 23, 2013 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is not quite the eve of the new year but close. I am not going to quote the exact Scriptures. I am going to give a sense of what I see in the world scene and how it relates to Bible Prophecy. I have been studying Bible Prophecy for twenty years. I never thought I would actually see what I studied.

I know that is strange to say. I thought it would be off in the great distance. I wanted it to be off in the great distance or I wanted not to be here to see it. Alas, I am here and I see it. Bible Prophecy is screaming out from the newspaper headlines. It is screaming for all to see but few will see it.

This is my first paragraph since you all seem interested in the topic

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posted December 23, 2013 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It would be much more productive if you stopped mimicking the evasion of truth you complain ruled your home of origin. Pretending we want to hear so you can go ahead is a perfect example of what you say you hated.

I said nothing about dates. False prophecy has other hallmarks besides that. Of course if you don't give a date its harder to prove you wrong but that's not the same a being right.

As I said, the end times have been with us since the beginning, before the Bible even; as have people screaming "socialist" "dictator" and "Hitler"...just ask jwhop what the "leftists" said about GW Bush.

Not interested.in discussing the Bible here.

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posted December 23, 2013 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
It would be much more productive if you stopped mimicking the evasion of truth you complain ruled your home of origin. Pretending we want to hear so you can go ahead is a perfect example of what you say you hated.

I said nothing about dates. False prophecy has other hallmarks besides that. Of course if you don't give a date its harder to prove you wrong but that's not the same a being right.

As I said, the end times have been with us since the beginning, before the Bible even; as have people screaming "socialist" "dictator" and "Hitler"...just ask jwhop what the "leftists" said about GW Bush.

Not interested.in discussing the Bible here.


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posted December 23, 2013 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, that is a darn shame, Cata and Juni

You best not bring up a subject if you don't want to discuss it

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posted December 23, 2013 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Why don't Juni and Cata forget the bitterness for one night, if they can

Merry Christmas!

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posted December 23, 2013 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No I vaguely remember hearing about one after the last fizzle. Did he also return his followers' assets?


He didn`t mention doing so.

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posted December 23, 2013 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bottom line, for all the people who don't know the Bible( and think they do) setting dates is not what we, Christians, are supposed to do. Hope that makes it clear to you haters , Juni

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posted December 23, 2013 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He was an example Ami. No one brought up bible.prophecy except you - the Rapture is not in the Bible. However false prophets abound in all areas of life.

Harold Camping was a phony, maybe he believed his story, but.it was false. As are most prophecies of doom.

As to Merry Christmas, I have already said it more than once, so forgive me if i don't keep repeating.

Personally I prefer Merry Solstice time, here's to the raising of the light which pre-christian holidays and ceremonies were appropriated by the Church.

May the New Year bring some major enlightenment for us all. Maybe see you then!

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posted December 23, 2013 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But i will say this, if people in germany had not been so concerned with their own creature comforts they might have stood up for their fellow man when they saw them being isolated and removed. It wasnt the healthcare that ruined germany (and that woman you quoted was Austrian not German) but the Scapegoatism which I see on this forum umpteen times a day. The willingness to be divided for sake of the words "left" and "right".

I know you don't get it but that is exactly what you are doing. Lapping up the opportunity to blame the "other side" and a sole human being instead of seeing WHO is using him, Congress, banks and corporations...including the precious military, war on terror and media. The power you invest in Obama and his birth certificate are laughable but very sad.

You feed into the lynch mentality exactly as is hoped by the real PTB because its easier than admitting a much larger enemy.

Still, I reckon the tide has already turned so ... Not interested in being the victim of doomsday.

Lotus is right. If you wallow on blame and disaster scenarios, you help bring them on.

Happy New Year

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posted December 24, 2013 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But i will say this, if people in germany had not been so concerned with their own creature comforts they might have stood up for their fellow man when they saw them being isolated and removed.

This is ridiculous. Nazi Germany is happening all over again with the boycotting of Israel and even the "gold star" on Israeli products.

The same deceived people will do the entire thing again, as is happening with the people who hate Israel.

This time, it will be much worse than the Holocaust, for all those people who love animals but hate Jew's information

Only God will stop it but that is Bible Prophecy in a nutshell.

*Sigh* Just get on the right side because each person has a choice. The tide won't be stopped.

PS Hitler loved animals, too

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posted December 24, 2013 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyway, back to the subject. Onward and Upward

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posted December 24, 2013 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"There has been about 7 decades of universal health coverage in most of the civilized world since Hitler and none of what you're so scared of has happened in those countries"...Catalina/katatonic

You are beyond delusional...or your memory is shot.

You forget about the tens of thousands of British citizens killed...against their will and against the will of their family members..by their doctors under the NICE program? Just part of the wholly Socialist British Healthcare system where medical murder IS PRESCRIBED using their own DEATH PANELS.

Welcome to O'BomberCare's DEATH PANEL, THE IAPB from whose death sentence there is no appeal.

And all the usual suspects and Socialist O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers cheer!

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posted December 24, 2013 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"There has been about 7 decades of universal health coverage in most of the civilized world since Hitler and none of what you're so scared of has happened in those countries"...Catalina/katatonic

You are beyond delusional...or your memory is shot.

You forget about the tens of thousands of British citizens killed...against their will and against the will of their family members..by their doctors under the NICE program? Just part of the wholly Socialist British Healthcare system where medical murder [b]IS PRESCRIBED using their own DEATH PANELS.

Welcome to O'BomberCare's DEATH PANEL, THE IAPB from whose death sentence there is no appeal.

And all the usual suspects and Socialist O'Bomber Kool-Aid drinkers cheer!

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Amen Brother and PRAISE THE LORD


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posted December 24, 2013 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mother-in-law just died in a NHS hospital, jwhop. Of end stage Parkinsons. With care my mother would have envied in her American convalescent home in 95.

So please stop trying to tell me about the murderous NHS. You know nothing.

Ami, WHAT "boycott on Israeli goods'? Are you serious? there have been anti-Jewish people throughout history. In 30s Germany they weren't even allowed citizen status. Their is no way you can call anti-semitism a sign that the government is planning on a rerun on this side of the Atlantic. Jews are not the same as the Israeli government in most people's minds. Apparently in yours they are, nothing I can do about that. I realize you would rather cling to being hated than open your mind to what people really think.

But you are both very wrong.

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