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Topic: MSNBC host says newborn infants don’t count as ‘alive’ unless parents decide they do;
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Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 21, 2013 03:52 PM
  
http://www.realnews24.com/msnbc-host-says-newborn-infants-dont-count-as-alive-unless-parents-decide-they-do-infanticide-is-the-new-abortion/ ------------------
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Catalina
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From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 21, 2013 04:16 PM
There is no evidence of what she actually said...perhaps you can supply? Or explain why we should take the writers word for it?Footage or full transcript of the segment so accused please? From what I can see she was not talking about bornborn babies at all...and while I agree that some people are too willing to call a viable "person" not so, it is criminal paranoia-mongering to suggest what the article does about her. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 21, 2013 04:32 PM
Cat, are you questioning REALNEWS?------------------
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 21, 2013 04:40 PM
I edited. I question ALL news! Even when it says what I want to hear  And especially when passed on by chicken little IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 10:54 AM
Let's see. These morons want the right to kill babies..as in a "4th trimester abortion" up to age 3, claiming they're merely "potential" persons.Why make age 3 the cutoff age? Let's abort the aborters. They don't meet my "quality of life" standards.
http://www.naturalnews.com/035539_Medical_ethics_newborn_babies_abortion.html# IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
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posted December 22, 2013 11:07 AM
Thank you, Jwhop. I was waiting for someone with some sense to answer  ------------------
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 11:13 AM
That would be disgusting for sure. What I want to know is where this anchor suggested the same? There's no clip to back up the extrapolation made by the article, so despite the fact that some doctors in milan and wherever have discussed said 'fourth term abortion" there is no EVIDENCE that she said that. In fact the paper written by those doctors actually sounds more like an argument against "optional" abortion than for the so-called "fourth trimester" garbage you are suggesting. that if abortion is legal, then infanticide should be legal. And this argument is based on their philosophical assessment that the two forms of murder are virtually the same thing from an ethical perspective. My question remains, how do we know this woman actually said what is "reported" by obviously emotional writers with an agenda? Because a writer says so is not evidence. But perhaps that is too fine a point for "reasonable" people. I believe you have slandered both those doctors and this reporter. But if you have a clip or even transcript of what she actually said, that would be different. All I asked for. After all the poster has a history of hysterical posts from hysterical sources. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 11:30 AM
There are all kinds of misrepresentations in the RealNews24 article so pardon me if I don't take their word for anything. The equation with Texas' ban on abortions AFTER 20 weeks with THIRD TRIMESTER is one of them. Last I heard third trimester was a good deal later than 20 weeks, just one TECHNICALITY that makes the difference between honest reporting and propaganda/hysteria.The poll, which I have taken their word for, in the clip, just shows how dumb some people are, but not that Melissa Perry is promoting after-birth abortions. Can't find a clip of her saying so online either...so So again, show me someone - on the "far left" or elsewhere - who has actually promoted said "fourth term" abortions or infanticide? Then I will consider YOU reasonable IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 11:47 AM
Gee, if you weren't so damned lazy you would have found these for yourself."ABORT THE ABORTERS"
http://www.pakalertpress.com/2013/07/31/msnbc-host-says-newborn-infants-dont-count-as-alive-unless-parents-decide-they-do-infanticide-is-the-new-abortion/
http://commonamericanjournal.com/infanticide-is-the-new-abortion/
http://www.ivgongreen.com/ivgongreen-news/msnbc-host-says-newborn-infants-dont-count-as-alive-unless-parents-decide-they-do-infanticide-is-the-new-abortion/
http://inprisonedwomen.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/my-heart-aches-newborn-infants-dont-count-as-alive-unless-parents-decide-they-do-intanticide-is-the-new-abortion/
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2306796/pg1
http://news.thebrazilpost.com/news/melissa-harris-perry-on-post-birth-abortion IP: Logged |
Node
Knowflake Posts: 2520
From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 11:57 AM
GREAT research JW- notthose are all reprints of the original "article" and more of the wingnut- stratosphere. I cannot believe you are backing this "story" Erm, come to think maybe I can~ it is does attribute to MSNBC after all. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 11:57 AM
So sorry, jwhop, but those all appear to be the SAME ARTICLE in different blogs/sites. Talking points and writer's interpretations are not FACT. I LOOKED for an actual clip or quote before I made my complaint.I still see no CLIP OF HARRIS PERRY SAYING SHE SUPPORTS INFANTICIDE< FOURTH TRIMESTER ABORTION. Nor direct quotes of her saying anything of the sort. What I do see is her objecting to the Texas ban on abortions after 20 weeks regardless of medical reasons... that is QUOTED. Even the "Medical Journal" is a repost of the Natural News piece. I have no problem with people objecting to the promotion of infanticide, or even many abortions. However I do object to people printing their opinions and accusations without backup evidence. IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 12:01 PM
Purple prose and yellow journalism are not acceptable as news. This article is both.IP: Logged |
Node
Knowflake Posts: 2520
From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 12:04 PM
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Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 50513
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2013 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Purple prose and yellow journalism are not acceptable as news. This article is both.
The main stream media is the outlet for the low information voter, if that be you ^^
PS To the stealth quoter, have at it
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Node
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From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 12:17 PM
Are you comparing your link or any of Jw's with mainstream anything?Cos your low information is the wingnuttiest! IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 12:19 PM
If you have some facts or even an article based on them, Ami, I would love to see themYour insults are based on about as much fact as this STORY you posted. IE straight out of your imagination. quote:
Originally posted by Catalina:
Purple prose and yellow journalism are not acceptable as news. This article is both. by ami: The main stream media is the outlet for the low information voter, if that be you ^^ PS To the stealth quoter, have at it IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 50513
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2013 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by Node:
Are you comparing your link [b] or any of Jw's with mainstream anything?Cos your low information is the wingnuttiest![/B]
Not really Node-y. Many people should look in the mirror. That is a hint ^^ PS To the stealth quoter. You got two good ones today. Merry Christmas
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Node
Knowflake Posts: 2520
From: 1,981 mi East of Truth or Consequences NM
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 12:25 PM
You forgot to advertise yourself with a link to your website.In a hurry to post? IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 50513
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2013 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by Node:
You forgot to advertise yourself with a link to your website.In a hurry to post?
Oh Yeah. My link is gone. That is weird. By request of Node-y, lets see if it works now.
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 12:36 PM
Such a lot of energy wasted on attacking those asking for some FACTS. It would surely be easier to prove you had some if you did, eh, jwhop? I mean who would be so lazy as to post numerous links to the same article as rebuttal? I'm not embarrassed to say I cannot find a SINGLE QUOTE or CLIP of Harris-Perry saying what she is accused of. That is all this article is, and very close to libel if you ask me. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 50513
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2013 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Such a lot of energy wasted on attacking those asking for some FACTS. It would surely be easier to prove you had some if you did, eh, jwhop? I mean who would be so lazy as to post numerous links to the same article as rebuttal? I'm not embarrassed to say I cannot find a SINGLE QUOTE or CLIP of Harris-Perry saying what she is accused of. That is all this article is, and very close to libel if you ask me.
It is worthless to give you a fact. If a drone with facts pasted all over it fell on your head, you would find a way to obfuscate the obvious. Look it up ^^
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 01:52 PM
Denial is always handy, isn't it? You have supplied post after post of unsupported dogma. I can understans the outrage if she actually said what they say she "implied" but there is no proof she did. Don't you think if she was caught in the act they would have at least quoted her?Instead this article is the expose of a filthy mund thinking this woman must be pushing infanticide, in an attempt to discredit all arguments for abortions after20 weeks. Like the stupid people who didn't realize "fourth trimester" is after birth, the article equates 20 weeks with third trimester (28 weeks being the beginning of third trimester). They are the ones obfuscating, I am asking for evidence. Which, as you don't have it, you are evading by insult. Sorry, but it doesn't stick. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Moderator Posts: 50513
From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 22, 2013 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Denial is always handy, isn't it? You have supplied post after post of unsupported dogma. I can understans the outrage if she actually said what they say she "implied" but there is no proof she did. Don't you think if she was caught in the act they would have at least quoted her?Instead this article is the expose of a filthy mund thinking this woman must be pushing infanticide, in an attempt to discredit all arguments for abortions after20 weeks. Like the stupid people who didn't realize "fourth trimester" is after birth, the article equates 20 weeks with third trimester (28 weeks being the beginning of third trimester). They are the ones obfuscating, I am asking for evidence. Which, as you don't have it, you are evading by insult. Sorry, but it doesn't stick.
Jwhop has given you evidence after evidence after evidence. I have too. You want to remain in Dense Land. Don't invite me over to dinner. I am a vegan 
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 22, 2013 02:12 PM
If someone has Harris being quoted directly, please share. All I find is an assumption and biased interpretation of the lurid headline. Jwhop, I followed 2 of your links:
imprisonedwomen
. According to Harris-Perry, life begins when the parents feel like life begins. And together with some twisted new “ethics” arguments from the radical left, this can include months or years after a child is born. thebrazilpost Msnbc host says newborn infants don't count as 'alive' unless, (naturalnews) today natural news denounces melissa harris-perry, the latest talking head "death worshipper" to publicly imply that she supports the murder of living.
They don`t support a direct quote either. Anyone? ------------------
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1026
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted December 22, 2013 02:17 PM
Jwhop posted multiple links to the same article. Apparently he didn't bother to check being so busy and eager to prove me "lazy".instead he only exposed his own laziness. You still seem to think being quick with insults substitutes for supply of facts. No score. Should you actually present some evidence that she said anything of the sort, perhaps there will be something to discuss. However, my family are looking forward to Christmas so i have a lot on my plate these next few days, so won't be wasting anymore precious time on your evasion game. Enjoy your ghoulish fantasies all you like but don't pretend they have any basis in fact unless you can supply same. Merry Christmas, Friend IP: Logged |
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