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Topic: Global Warming Scam Pays Off For More Researchers
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AcousticGod
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From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2014 08:03 PM
  
I'm not backpeddling at all. Since when have I been an "alarmist." That's the farthest away from how I would label myself.Why bother? As I said, they are going to study this stuff regardless of outcome. That's the nature of being this type of researcher. If you own a barn, and I inform you dispassionately that the barn outside is burning, and it is, in fact, burning, am I being an alarmist? Am I telling you about a potentially significant event that may have implications for you? Does your belief about it affect me as the observer? You can say that it's not burning all you want, but if it is burning and has burnt, then your denial is kind of odd, right? You don't even seem to want to look out the window to confirm. Maybe someone else told you that it wasn't burning. Are you going to see for yourself, or just accept that person's word over mine despite not having any reason to trust one over the other. It's weird that you suspect the dispassionate informant. Did I cry, "Wolf," three times or something? It seems like all of us enjoy living with healthy and safe stuff as much as possible. It also seems like people hate to lose things. These two traits should come to bear in this situation, and I think it's odd if they don't. That said, I don't personally concern myself with alarm, because I don't know if there is anything to do about it, but I respect that people are trying to be good stewards, and I don't think deniers should be given any credence given the evidence not in their favor. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 37528
From: Saturn next to Charmainec
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 11, 2014 09:56 PM
We can barely predict the weather a week in advance, and we are supposed to believe they can predict decades? https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/1976-climatologists-predicted-global-cooling-skeptics-said-it-was-nonsense/ IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 11, 2014 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
We can barely predict the weather a week in advance, and we are supposed to believe they can predict decades?
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/1976-climatologists-predicted-global-cooling-skeptics-said-it-was-nonsense/[/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 12, 2014 10:15 AM
You compare the climate to a burning barn?  IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8437
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2014 01:19 PM
So you are saying that scientists have cried wolf too many times, and by that you mean one single time, which therefore means this is a hoax? quote:
You compare the climate to a burning barn?
I don't get what's funny about that. I illustrated for you your position in a manner that you could understand, so that you could understand how the situation appears to me. Something is happening to something you ostensibly value, and you deny that it's happening, because someone told you it's not occurring. Of course, you would say that you've checked for yourself, but you haven't really done so in any honest manner. Instead, you look for more people to tell you it's not happening without concerning yourself with their motives for doing so. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 12, 2014 01:41 PM
Ridiculous analogy. And you claim not to be an alarmist. There's nothing wrong with the climate. The Earth isn't going to burst into flames. It has been much warmer before man, and all went well--conveniently covered up by the fudged data of your climate gate faux scientists. You need to stop being such a hypocrite and follow your own advice by looking at the motives of the people telling you this CO2 nonsense. But wait...you unquestioningly believe anything they say, because you ascribe to them some kind of flawless authority, right? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 12, 2014 02:38 PM
One single time? They have repeatedly cried wolf! And they still are! Despite there having been no warming for two decades! Eventually, the grant money will dry up, and then they will find another money train. First it was global cooling. That didn't pan out. Guess what? Their models were wrong. Guess what? the skeptics were right. History repeats itself. More and more people are refusing to be duped by the junk science, and the alarms are no longer feared but ignored. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8437
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 12, 2014 03:56 PM
It's not a ridiculous analogy.
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There's nothing wrong with the climate.
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The Earth isn't going to burst into flames.
I didn't say it was. quote:
It has been much warmer before man, and all went well--conveniently covered up by the fudged data of your climate gate faux scientists.
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You need to stop being such a hypocrite and follow your own advice by looking at the motives of the people telling you this CO2 nonsense.
I've repeatedly done so, Randall. I can't figure out why they'd lie to me. Nor can I reconcile why there aren't whistleblowers if all scientists are truth-lovers. Even your skeptic insiders DON'T disprove the science. quote:
But wait...you unquestioningly believe anything they say, because you ascribe to them some kind of flawless authority, right?
As I've stated before, scientific understanding can change, but, yes, I will follow it where it leads.
What about your authority? Are you now claiming that your authority is NOT flawless, and therefore your position is superior to mine? Is that what you're trying to say here? That would be something. quote:
Eventually, the grant money will dry up, and then they will find another money train.
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History repeats itself.
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More and more people are refusing to be duped by the junk science, and the alarms are no longer feared but ignored.
Unsupported. I would love it if people, including yourself, weren't duped by junk science. You do ANYTHING but ignore the alarms. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 37528
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posted February 12, 2014 05:33 PM
Well, you will never convince me of anything. And I know your opinion will never change unless the IPCC and NOAA change it for you. So, we can just agree to disagree. Thank God there's an entire group of organized people fighting these ridiculous assertions and their resultant wastes of capital. It's called the Republicans. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 37528
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posted February 17, 2014 03:59 PM
There are no alarms. None whatsoever.IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8437
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2014 12:29 PM
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Well, you will never convince me of anything.
Because you're not open-minded enough to consider alternate possibilities that don't have your intuitive backing. IP: Logged |
Randall
Webmaster Posts: 37528
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posted February 18, 2014 12:44 PM
No, everyone knows the "consensus" stance. It doesn't take an open mind to believe what authorities tell us is true. In fact, it takes a closed mind not to question what we are told. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
Knowflake Posts: 8437
From: Dublin, CA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2014 02:17 PM
Consulting an expert regarding his or her opinion, could never be said to be the result of a closed mind. Further confirmation from other experts in the field disproves the notion that a lack of questioning is taking place.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 1365
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 18, 2014 03:46 PM
Espousing the anti-authority view in a knee jerk reactionary way is just as closed-minded as blind adherence to the mainstream.Do you know who James Lovelock is, anyone? IP: Logged |
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