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jwhop
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posted April 07, 2014 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Reported on this forum many times in the past is the fact The One, The Marxist Messiah O'Bomber pays women less than men who work for him or his administration.

So why is this newsworthy?

It wouldn't be newsworthy at all if The Marxist Messiah didn't blither, blather, bloviate and bullshiiit about the need for women to be paid to same as men.

The fact O'Bomber doesn't pay women the same as men and never has, makes him a tin plated little hypocrite. Of course, all citizens with 2 brain cells to rub together already know O'Bomber is nothing but a lying hypocrite and empty suit.

Obama looks to close wage gap while paying female staffers less than men
04/06/2014
Caroline May

President Barack Obama is planning to sign two new executive actions aimed at narrowing the wage gap between men and women Tuesday, even as the Obama White House pays its female staffers less than men.

The first executive action will be an order banning federal contractors from retaliation against employees who disclose or ask about their wages, according to reports. His other executive action will require federal contractors to submit data to the government about their employees compensation by sex and race.

On Tuesday — the day advocates have labelled “Equal Pay Day” to symbolize the amount of time women have to work to make as much as men did the year before — Obama will sign the executive orders at the White House, according to an AP report.

“From making the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act the first bill he signed into law to these actions, the President has proven himself to be a true champion for women in the workplace,” Deborah J. Vagins, ACLU senior legislative counsel and co-chair of the National Paycheck Fairness Coalition, said in a statement. “Congress still needs to do its part and pass the Paycheck Fairness Act, but we’re one step closer to achieving pay equity thanks to this White House.”

Despite advocates’ cheers about paycheck equity, the Obama White House has paid women less than men for years.

According to a Daily Caller analysis of “2013 Annual Report to Congress on White House Staff,” the most recent available data on White House pay, the White House paid women an estimated 11.8 percent less than men in 2013.

The year prior White House paid women 13 percent less than men — and in 2011, according to the Free Beacon, women were paid 18 percent less.

To be sure, all the analysed years were better than what the federal government says is the current wage gap: 23 percent.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/06/obama-looks-to-close-wage-gap-while-paying-female-staffers-less-than-men/?advD=1248,657950

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posted April 07, 2014 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is so bogus. Let's just skim over the fact that what he pays people adheres to a schedule fixed by law...that no mention of what jobs these people are doing means you have no way of knowing of the work done is comparable, and no source is given. As usual.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/105

Perhaps you would like to do some homework and tell us what the link says, and its relevant tributary clauses?

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posted April 07, 2014 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You should do your homework Catalina/katatonic.

There can be no law requiring the Marxist Messiah to pay women less than he pays men. The idea is patently absurd.

"...the President is authorized to appoint and fix the pay of employees in the White House Office without regard to any other provision of law regulating the employment or compensation of persons in the Government service."

Guess you didn't get around to reading even the first paragraph of the cite you posted.

The Marxist Messiah has a history of making economic war on women going all the way back to his days in the Illinois legislature.

Let it be noted you are still jumping to the defense of Marxist Socialist Progressives and their initiatives...and let it be further noted O'Bomber is a lying hypocritical empty suit

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posted April 07, 2014 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read it. Surprised you did lol. There were qualifying clauses.Yes, he gets to set the salaries within the budhet allowed him but the main point is what jobs people are doing. It's patently misleading as you have done to say that the women earn less unless you can point out where equal work is getting unequal pay. You are perhaps lumping in maids with secretaries? What?

your last post citing climate scientists being manipulative was to a pay-only site, did you read your.own source reference?

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posted April 07, 2014 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting that this meme [war on women] is characterized as Obama's fault. We all know that women still make less than men, in the United States, in every profession, except sex workers.

77 cents for every mans dollar.

If we were to cast our eyes on a party. If we are to fix blame on a political side of the aisle, it would benefit the GOP to turn the worm. The United States of Misogyny is best characterized by the Republican party. As they have done more against women's rights in the last few years than the preceding four decades. The president is the head representative of their party, so it makes sense to try and regain ground with women by pointing the finger at Obama.

Check out what Breitbart dot com is posting. http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/04/07/Welcome-to-Breitbart-California

Do I have to list all of the highlights from the last few years of why the GOP lost millions of women voters? Not

Let us just ask what the GOP has done for women's rights recently. Or any attempt whatsoever to legislate equal pay for equal work. Name me ONE

Good luck

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posted April 08, 2014 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't try that kind of sophistry on me.

O'Bomber:

hires whom he wants for each White House position on his staff.

pays his staff the salary he determines, at his own discretion.

is not constrained by federal pay guidelines.

defines the job description and duties of his staff...aides.

Which means...O'Bomber hires whom he wants for each position and pays them what he wants to pay them.

Leftists defense of the Marxist Messiah...that the men are hired to higher level positions with higher pay and women are hired to lower level positions with lower pay is the kind of sophistry we've come to expect from the leftist set.

O'Bomber does the hiring, sets the pay scales, hires whom he wants to hire, sets their job descriptions and their duties.

So all those factors are in O'Bomber's control but the Marxist Messiah CHOOSES to pay women less than men on his staff.

That makes O'Bomber nothing but a lying hypocrite when he wails about disparities between women's compensation with men's. O'Bomber is the hypocrite with the history of paying women less going all the way back to his state legislature days in Illinois.

He's been making war on women for many years but his Kool-Aid swilling subjects are perfectly OK with that.

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posted April 08, 2014 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sophistry?

Get a clue, nothing I posted was false, albeit the 77 cents is too inclusive.

This meme was tried in the Romney campaign, and as I mentioned before is a predictable, and transparent ruse to give it a replay now.

GOP lost women voters in the millions. FACT

you got nothing, and it shows.

quote:
First, the Obama White House has more equitable pay rates than the economy as a whole. And second, when you look at employees who have the same titles, only a small fraction of women are out-earned by men, a difference that might be explainable by differences in experience and longevity rather than discrimination. The statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, so we rate it Half True.

Fact:Women at the White House fare better than women in the economy at large.

"President Obama’s top female White House aides earn more on average than their male counterparts, a reversal from the pattern in the George W. Bush administration," the newspaper wrote. "Top female employees on average earned nearly 4 percent more than top male employees under Mr. Obama, compared with a deficit of 12 percent under Mr. Bush."
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statemen ts/2012/oct/29/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-women-white-house-employees-earn-/

You need to own the fact that the GOP has done more to eradicate women's rights, freedoms, and choices recently than the previous four decades.

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posted April 08, 2014 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Get a clue, nothing I posted was false, albeit the 77 cents is too inclusive."..Node

You don't know what sophistry is do you?

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posted April 08, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
soph·ist·ry noun \ˈsä-fə-strç\ : the use of reasoning or arguments that sound correct but are actually false

: a reason or argument that sounds correct but is actually false

Yes, jwhop, the FALSE part is intrinsic in the meaning of sophistry.

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posted April 08, 2014 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Media calls out White House on their laughably misleading equal pay nonsense
April 08 2014
Doug Brady

http://conservatives4palin.com/2014/04/media-calls-white-house-laughably-misleading-equal-pay-nonsense.html

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posted April 08, 2014 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat:

facts & definitions are teeny-tiny inconvenient details to some Floridians.

Got any pay raises in that GOP sack of goodies for me JW?

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posted April 09, 2014 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might surprise you to learn that were it up to me, women in the same job as men, with the same time on the job in an organization as men would receive the same compensation as men...as opposed to your little Marxist Messiah O'Bomber who has consistently paid women less in the same jobs as men and has done so across all the years of his war on women.

AND, since I'm a results oriented individual, women in the same jobs could earn more than men based on their job performance and WOULD earn more for superior or outstanding performance on the job.

Beyond that, employees...women and men..who have mastered their current jobs find themselves at the top of the promotions list for jobs with more responsibility and higher levels of compensation.

I trust this answers your question Node.

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posted April 10, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since O'Bomber has now ADMITTED HE PAYS WOMEN LESS THAN MEN ON HIS WHITE HOUSE STAFF, let the usual suspects cease and desist in their denials of O'Bomber's war on women!

O'Bomber also scored more Pinocchios...for lying to America.

White House pay gap twice as large as pay gap in the District of Columbia
04/09/2014
Caroline May

While the White House has argued that the wage gap between men and women in the White House is better than the national average, it is far worst than the average in the District of Columbia.***Whoopsie***

The pay gap among women in the White House is more than twice as large as the average in the nation’s capital.

While female White House staffers earn about 88 cents for every dollar men in the White House make, women in the District earn about 95 cents for every dollar a men make, according to the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

That’s a 12-cent pay gap at the White House compared to a five-cent pay gap in the District of Columbia.

The metric used to derive both pay gaps is the same the government has used to arrive at the 77-cent national average.

Nevertheless, White House press secretary Jay Carney spent this week arguing that there is no pay discrimination at the White House.

“It is absolutely true that there is equal pay for equal work at the White House,” Carney said Tuesday.

When asked how the White House adopted that position while continuing to use the 77 cent statistic to impugn the rest of the country to the point of signing executive orders and pushing legislation aimed at correcting the stat, Carney responded, “if you want to compare metrics, we’re doing better.”***Whoopsie***

When compared to the District, which has one of the lowest pay gaps in the country, but the White House is doing much worse.

And while few are arguing there is pay discrimination at the White House and most instead using the statistic to show how the “77 cents” stat is flawed, President Obama Tuesday chastised those who have questioned the 23-cent pay gap assertions.

“Some commentators are out there saying that the pay gap doesn’t even exist. They say it’s a myth. But it’s not a myth; it’s math,” Obama said. “You can look at the paychecks. You can look at the stubs.”

Wednesday, the Washington Post Fact Checker gave Obama two Pinocchios for the 77-cent claim.***Whoopsie***

http://dailycaller.com/2014/04/09/white-house-pay-gap-twice-as-large-as-pay-gap-in-district-of-columbia/

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posted April 10, 2014 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
equal pay for equal work

that is the catch.

In a place like the whitehouse where the jobs are varied it is important to be more specific about the jobs, hours worked, etc, factors. taking the total female wages and male wages and dividing them to find an average just doesn't compute. do the male maids make the same as the female ones? do they even have male maids to compare with? as i heard it two comparable staffers (office positions) showed the woman made 4% more than the man in the white house scenario.

More complex than in a hospital or factory or other large conglomerate where many equivalent jobs can be found for comparison straight across the board.

There are probably far fewer maids working in DC(as a percentage), so the bulk of minimum wage jobs goes down. And the average goes up. (the White House is a house, after all with many social functions performed needing cleaners/servers etc)

Etcetera etcetera etcetera

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posted April 10, 2014 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Balderdash!

An Aides job is comprarable work across a range of departments.

Still trying to justify your little Marxist Messiah's War on Women I see.

Time for you to throw in the towel. O'Bomber already admitted there's a pay-gap between women and men in his White House. So why are you still in denial?

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posted April 10, 2014 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama just can't get anything right! What an abject failure he is.

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posted April 11, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol

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posted April 11, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one's enough

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posted April 12, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the case of Barack Hussein O'Bomber, one is way too many.

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posted April 15, 2014 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just gets better and better as the hypocrisy gets stacked higher and higher.

April 15, 2014
Democratic 'Equal Pay' Hypocrisy
By Warren Beatty

Talk about hypocrisy! Dear Leader Barack Hussein Obama has outdone even himself. In his weekly radio address, Obama reiterated the importance of ensuring equal pay for equal work. He then highlighted actions his administration has taken to expand opportunity and narrow the pay gap that exists between men and women. In the address, Obama said:

You see, the average woman who works full-time in America earns less than a man -- even when she's in the same profession and has the same education. That's wrong. In 2014, it's an embarrassment. Women deserve equal pay for equal work. [emphasis mine]

And, on April 8, 2014, Obama made these remarks:

I don't know why you would resist the idea that women should be paid the same as men and then deny that that's not always happening out there. If Republicans in Congress... want to show that they, in fact, do care about women being paid the same as men, then... They can join us in this, the 21st century, and vote yes on the Paycheck Fairness Act."

All that rhetoric sounds great, but actions speak louder than words, as White House pay records illustrate.

The Obama White House, in 2013, paid women 88 percent of what they paid men. It is very unlikely that Obama (or the lap-dog MSM) will mention that fact.

As Meghan Keneally of the Daily Mail writes, "Of the administration's 20 top earners, who each took home a tidy $172,200 for their work in 2011, only six of those were women." The median White House annual salary in 2013 for men was $71,000, versus $60,000 for women, or 18 percent less. And the situation is not new. Women, in 2009, made 89 cents for every dollar that men made, or, on average, $9,390 less annually.

Salaries for most of the White House staff are set by a pay schedules. But because more women are in the lower pay categories (as this table indicates), the female median salary is less than the male median salary.
And let's not forget White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who is a man.

And since Obama opened the door, let's look at what Democrats are doing:

•For all Democrat Senate staffers, men made an average of $5,500 more annually than women. In fact, more than two-thirds of Democrat Senators pay men more than women.

•Senator Barry Sanders (I-VT), "an avowed socialist who caucuses with the Democrats, has the worst gender gap by far. He employed more men (14) than women (10), and his chief of staff is male." Sanders pays women, on average, 47.6 percent of what he pays men. And, he has said that Republicans "are trying to roll back the clock on womens' rights."

•Senator Mark Begich (D-AK) paid female staffers an average of $23,504 less than males, an average of 29 percent less for female.

•Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) paid female staffers, on average, $20,861 less than males. The average salary for women was only 72 percent of mens' salaries.

•Here's one that will make you laugh -- Senator Mary L. Landrieu's (D-LA) timing is superb. Landrieu pays her female staffers much less than males. The average male salary was $13,037 higher than the average female salary. Yet on April 1, 2014, Landrieu put out a press release on the equal pay issue.

•Here's another laugher. Senator Dick Durbin (D-IL), who loudly pushed the Senate to pass the "Paycheck Fairness Act," pays women on his staff, on average, $11,505 annually less than he pays men. "Four of the five highest paid staffers on Durbin's staff are men." When asked about the equal pay issue, Durbin said "How serious is equal pay for equal work to working people across America? I think it's critical."

Democrat apologists will argue that they favor "equal pay for equal work," that the above noted pay discrepancies are the result of men being in higher-paying positions. That may be true, so a look at staffing is in order. Not even one of the Senate Democrat leadership (Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer, Patty Murray) has a female chief of staff or communications director. Senate Republicans are doing better, with two top GOP leaders having female chiefs of staff, and four of five leaders having female communications directors.

Denis McDonough, a man, is currently Obama's Chief of Staff. And, of Obama's fifteen cabinet members, only three are female (including Kathleen Sebelius, scheduled to be replaced by Sylvia Mathews Burwell).

And the Democrat National Committee pays women 15 percent less than men.

Why was the "Paycheck Fairness Act" even brought up? Senate Democrats felt comfortable doing so as they knew the bill would not be brought up in the Republican controlled House of Representatives.

So, the question is, "Is Obama himself embarrassed?" After all, his words and actions are at odds with each other. And, are Democrats embarrassed? And, is the MSM embarrassed? MSM, your research has been done for you, yet you still goes right along with the Democrats and persist on espousing the "Republican War on Women" myth.

Republicans may be just as guilty, but Democrats need to "clean up their acts" before pointing their fingers at anyone.

But that's just my opinion.
http://americanthinker.com/2014/04/4_13_2014_23_25.html

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"Of the administration's 20 top earners, who each took home a tidy $172,200 for their work in 2011, only six of those were women." The median White House annual salary in 2013 for men was $71,000, versus $60,000 for women, or 18 percent less. And the situation is not new. Women, in 2009, made 89 cents for every dollar that men made, or, on average, $9,390 less annually.

Salaries for most of the White House staff are set by a pay schedules. But because more women are in the lower pay categories (as this table indicates), the female median salary is less than the male median salary.
And let's not forget White House Press Secretary Jay Carney, who is a man.


As I said. Salaries are set by pay schedules.

& The charges of unequal pay for equal work skim over the fact that these are averaged over ALL jobs in the White House as are the others. In other words, apples and oranges.

Or are you suggesting that men should be passed over for jobs women might apply for, even if the men are more suitable?

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posted April 15, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat

JW has no interest in supporting women, he thinks this is but another bone to put through Obama's nose.

The real problem is house & senate rePubs. They have desecrated RIGHTS for women. To make this another thread all about Obama JW, is wrong. Look to your own.

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Obama can kill Americans with drones sans a fair trial and pass all manner of executive orders, but he can't pay female White House staffers equal pay as men? Really? The truth is that he doesn't want to, or else he would. As always with this two-faced hypocrite, believe what he does, not what he says.

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posted April 15, 2014 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess the women in the White House, apart from those in the top 20 who each earned $172k didn't negotiate for higher wages than the set pay schedule, eh? Nor do the maids think to ask for as much as the chsuffeurs...

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posted April 16, 2014 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Randall said!

"Obama can kill Americans with drones sans a fair trial and pass all manner of executive orders, but he can't pay female White House staffers equal pay as men? Really? The truth is that he doesn't want to, or else he would. As always with this two-faced hypocrite, believe what he does, not what he says."

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