posted September 30, 2014 04:24 PM            

This is from your "source"...the puffing post and I didn't have to read very far into the misleading article to find the supporters of terrorists of Hamas...CAIR.

"Even translated into English, the letter will still sound alien to most Americans, said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council of American-Islamic Relations, who released it in Washington with 10 other American Muslim religious and civil rights leaders."

Unfortunately, almost nothing you post here can stand up under even a cursory examination.

posted September 30, 2014 11:27 PM            

It's ISIS which is being condemned, not the terrorists of Hamas or Hizbollah which are the poster boys of CAIR support.

Face facts. CAIR and others mentioned in the screed from puffington post ARE NOT PEACEFUL, MODERATE MUSLIMS.

posted October 01, 2014 06:32 PM            

Critics of CAIR have accused it of having ties to Hamas. Federal Judge Jorge A. Solis said that there was evidence to show that that CAIR has an association with the Holy Land Foundation, Islamic Association for Palestineand Hamas. However, Judge Solis' acknowledged that this evidence predates the official designation of these groups as terrorist organizations.[86]

] CAIR acknowledges that Nihad Awad declared support for Hamas in 1994. It notes that Hamas was only designated a terrorist organization in January 1995 and did not commit its first wave ofsuicide bombings until late 1994, after Awad made the comment.[101][102] Since then CAIR has denounced violence by Hamas, and in 2006 Nihad Awad said, "I don’t support Hamas today ... we condemn suicide bombings."[101]

As of 2007, FBI officials attended CAIR events. In 2009, Fox News said that the FBIbroke off formal outreach contacts with CAIR, and shunned all of its local chapters, concerned about CAIR's ties to Hamas.[4] In 2011, the New York Times said that while the FBI and CAIR had no "formal relationship", CAIR officials and chapters worked regularly with FBI officials.[103]

posted October 01, 2014 10:30 PM            

CAIR...which is named in the article you posted...is named as a supporter and funder of radical Islamic terrorists.

posted October 02, 2014 09:48 AM            

How "peaceful".

It's the 21st Century, and they're still talking about the "Crusades" as an excuse for wanton murder.

And, O'Bomber's America haters, his Kool-Aid drinking minions and members of his America hating press are on the same page as the terrorists.

October 2, 2014
Two plus Two Equals Five: Media Coverage of Terrorist Attacks
Brian W. Lynch

As the recent coverage of the Oklahoma beheading makes clear, the mainstream media forces its agenda and worldview on the American people regardless of the facts. The media goes to extreme lengths to fabricate allegations of Islamaphobia or tea party-related terrorism. At the same time, it distorts or ignores stories that do not portray Islam in a flattering light.
This troubling tendency was apparent early in the Obama administration. On May 31, 2009, Dr. George Tiller -- one of a handful of “doctors” in the U.S. to perform late-term abortions -- was shot and killed by a pro-life activist named Scott Roeder in Wichita, Kansas. That same day in Arkansas, Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad -- a recent Muslim convert -- shot two U.S. Army soldiers who recently completed basic training, killing one and seriously injuring another. According to Muhammad, he targeted the soldiers “because of what they had done to Muslims in the past.” Muhammad had recently travelled to Yemen and authorities stated that the attack was motivated by disagreements with U.S. military operations in the Middle East.

The media’s attempt to indoctrinate Americans with its agenda and worldview was apparent in its disparate treatment of these two events. With respect to the Tiller incident, pundits warned of rising right-wing violence fueled by Fox News. Keith Olbermann blamed Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, a frequent Tiller critic, “for inciting the murder of Dr. George Tiller.” Writing for Salon, Gabriel Winant argued O’Reilly was “irresponsible” for putting Tiller “in the public eye.” MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow attempted to link the pro-life movement with terrorism. Maddow claimed “there’s an anti-abortion terrorist movement in the United States that operates relatively openly.”

Meanwhile, the media largely ignored terrorist violence committed by a Muslim convert against U.S. service-members in Arkansas. Maddow and Olbermann failed to mention the incident. On June 6, 2009, NBC’s Today mentioned the Arkansas incident in passing, but ignored that he “had just converted to Islam and was being investigated by the FBI for a trip to Yemen.” Unlike the Tiller coverage, there was no media discussion of a violent Islamist movement with a history of violence against the U.S. military and civilians.

More disturbing was the mainstream media’s coverage of the Fort Hood shooting. On November 5, 2009, Islamist terrorist and Army major Nidal Malik Hasan gunned down 13 U.S. Army soldiers at an out-processing center at the Army base Fort Hood. Prior to the shooting, Hasan was communicating via e-mail with now deceased Anwar al-Awlaki. Hasan yelled “Allah Akbar” during his rampage.

The media quickly did damage control in an attempt to eliminate any inference that Islamism may have played any role in the shooting. Many in the mainstream media came up with a novel diagnosis for what motivated Hasan -- he was simply a “victim” of “PTSD by proxy.” Joe Shapiro, a writer for NPR online in an article titled "Suspected Fort Hood Shooter Saw the Toll of PTSD," suggested that “one factor [causing the shooting] may have been that the Army psychiatrist had treated scores of soldiers and Marines who returned from Iraq and Afghanistan with PTSD.” On November 6, 2009, Newsweek also stated that Hasan, who never deployed overseas to a warzone, may be the victim of PTSD. PBS put out a report titled: "Fort Hood: A Closer Look at Soldiers and PTSD", thus creating an inference that PTSD somehow played a role in Hasan’s premeditated act of terrorism. The day after the incident, Time’s Mark Thompson sympathized with poor Hasan, writing in Stresses at "Fort Hood Were Likely Intense for Hasan" that “PTSD affects even those -- like Hasan -- who haven’t gone off to war.”

Media outlets found another convenient motive that would fit its worldview -- racist U.S. soldiers drove Hasan to kill. ABC News ran a story the day after the attack titled Nidal Malik Hasan, "Suspected Fort Hood Shooter, Was Called “Camel Jockey.” This allowed the media to ignore any relationship between the attack and Islam and blame it on “racist” U.S. military personnel.

Others in the media were content to simply play dumb with regard to Hasan’s motives. MSNBC’s Chris Matthews opined on November 6, 2009 that “we may never know if religion was a factor at Fort Hood.” Time’s Mark Thompson wrote “exactly what role Hasan’s faith played in the shooting, if any, is unknown.” MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow concluded that Hasan was not a terrorist and that conservative politicians were just using the shooting to serve political purposes. Yes, that’s the same Rachel Maddow who claimed there is a pro-life terrorist movement in the United States that “operates relatively openly.” As Charles Krauthammer put it, the liberal media “worked overtime to avoid any implication that there was any connection between Hasan’s Islamist beliefs… and his actions.”

The media’s coverage of Islamist attempted and successful terrorist attacks during the Obama administration would only get more shameful. On May 1, 2010, Faisal Shahzad packed his 1993 Nissan Pathfinder with a homemade bomb and parked it on a crowded Times Square in New York City. Shahzad then fled on foot. Luckily, a street vendor spotted smoke from the SUV, alerted police, and police were able to defuse the bomb.

The media and politicians did not waste any time jumping to conclusions. On CBS, New York Mayor Bloomberg speculated that the bomb was placed in Times Square by “somebody with a political agenda who doesn’t like the health care bill or something.” Robert Dreyfuss, writing for The Nation, blamed the bombing attempt on the Tea Party. To the chagrin of MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer, eventually authorities realized the tea party was not behind the attack. Brewer worried some would use the attack as a “justification for really outdated bigotry.”

Once again, the media worked overtime to eliminate any inference of Islamist radicalism as the motivating factor behind the foiled bombing attempt. CBS’s Bob Orr claimed Shahzad’s “motives were unclear.” A headline from Newsweek asked: “Did the economy make him do it? The Washington Post, CNN, and AP “attached huge significance” to the problems Shahzad had paying his mortgage.

Luckily, Shahzad cleared the air at his sentencing, exclaiming, “Allahu Akbar.” Shahzad continued: “The sentence does not mean anything to me. Brace yourself, because the war has just begun.” At another point in the trial, Shahzad said, “We do not accept your democracy or your freedom, because we already have sharia law.”

On April 15, 2013, two pressure cooker bombs exploded during the Boston Marathon, killing 3 people and injuring 264. Before the scene was even cleared, many in the media had a suspect -- the Tea Party. Chris Matthews and CNN’s Wolf Blitzer attached great significance to the fact that it was Patriots Day. Michael Moore alleged that the Tea Party was behind the bombing. CNN’s security analyst Peter Bergen “suggested more than once that a right wing extremist group could be behind the attacks.”

The perpetrators were identified as Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnev -- Islamists with Chechen roots. Unsurprisingly, the media ignored or downplayed the brothers’ Islamist views. Writing in The Atlantic, Megan Garber wrote an article titled “The Boston Bombers were Muslim. So?” The always-shrill Joan Walsh argued the Tsarnevs “resemble young American mass murderers more than al-Qaida members.” Chris Matthews asked “What difference does it make why they (the Tsarnevs) did it?”

With this backdrop in mind, this brings us to the recent beheading in Oklahoma by a recent Muslim convert. Last week, Alton Nolen beheaded a former coworker after losing his job. Nolen was fired for “trying to convert his co-workers to Islam.”

According to Jeffrey Meyer of Newsbusters, both NBC and MSNBC “ignored the role that his conversion to Islam may have played in the brutal murder.” Over at MSNBC, Melissa Harris-Perry argued the beheading was merely “workplace violence.” This despite the fact that Nolen’s “Facebook page had pictures of Osama bin Laden, the Taliban, gruesome beheadings by ISIS, pictures celebrating the destruction of the Twin Towers, and his promises that America would go up in flames.”

posted October 02, 2014 10:17 AM            

I agree with you that the examples you give are ludicrous distortions of what Reporting should be about.. BUT I see the same going in the other direction too, bending over backwards to make this justify fear and loathing of a whole people.

Either way it is "yellow press" not true reporting. We do not need any more jingoism at this time. But some people don't notice anything but hyperbole. Those they don't like must be monsters and those they do, saints.

Here is the executive summary of their letter:

1. It is forbidden in Islam to issue fatwas without all the necessary learning requirements. Even then fatwas must follow Islamic legal theory as defined in the Classical texts. It is also forbidden to cite a portion of a verse from the Qur’an—or part of a verse—to derive a ruling without looking at everything that the Qur’an and Hadith teach related to that matter. In other words, there are strict subjective and objective prerequisites for fatwas, and one cannot ‘cherry-pick’ Qur’anic verses for legal arguments without considering the entire Qur’an and Hadith.

2. It is forbidden in Islam to issue legal rulings about anything without mastery of the Arabic language.

3. It is forbidden in Islam to oversimplify Shari’ah matters and ignore established Islamic sciences.

4. It is permissible in Islam [for scholars] to differ on any matter, except those fundamentals of religion that all Muslims must know.

5. It is forbidden in Islam to ignore the reality of contemporary times when deriving legal rulings.

6. It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent.

7. It is forbidden in Islam to kill emissaries, ambassadors, and diplomats; hence it is forbidden to kill journalists and aid workers.

8. Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.

9. It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslim unless he (or she) openly declares disbelief.

10. It is forbidden in Islam to harm or mistreat—in any way—Christians or any ‘People of the Scripture’.

11. It is obligatory to consider Yazidis as People of the Scripture.

12. The re-introduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam. It was abolished by universal consensus.

13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.

14. It is forbidden in Islam to deny women their rights.

15. It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.

16. It is forbidden in Islam to enact legal punishments (hudud) without following the correct
procedures that ensure justice and mercy.

17. It is forbidden in Islam to torture people.

18. It is forbidden in Islam to disfigure the dead.

19. It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God.

20. It is forbidden in Islam to destroy the graves and shrines of Prophets and Companions.

21. Armed insurrection is forbidden in Islam for any reason other than clear disbelief by the ruler and not allowing people to pray.

22. It is forbidden in Islam to declare a caliphate without consensus from all Muslims.

23. Loyalty to one’s nation is permissible in Islam.

24. After the death of the Prophet, Islam does not require anyone to emigrate anywhere.

Read the full letter here.

posted October 02, 2014 10:40 AM            

But don't worry, you have the right to stay stubborn and scared if you like. You are not a journalist as far as I know.

Facts are facts:

ISIL is on the rampage

Muslims around the world are coming out against this abuse of their faith

Muslims around the world are being shunned and blamed for the very fact of being Muslim

Some people will excuse Muslim criminals in order not to be seen blaming all Muslims.

Some will not believe any Muslim who talks peace could be truthful.

posted October 02, 2014 11:02 AM            

Will you please e mail me. My e mail address is under my Mod name in any Forum I Moderate.

Thank you! xx

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posted October 04, 2014 12:51 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
Sorry Ami but apparently you can't be emailed from the site...or at least I can't. Perhaps it's Microsoft.

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I couldn't do it either until I figured out something. I thought it was just me so did not tell you about it.

You copy my e mail address and you paste it into your own e mail.

Then, you write the e mail from your own account.

Look forward to hearing from you, Jwhop dear xxx

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posted October 04, 2014 01:38 PM            

America was founded partly to establish freedom to exercise religion without persecution from those who disapproved because of their own religion...largely Christians.

To say there are no violent Muslims would be a lie. It is also a lie to say that because someone has been "mentioned" as a supporter of Hamas that they necessarily are, especially when they have publically stated their OPPOSITION.

Peaceful muslims are not always moderate muslims except when compared to, say, ISIL. More and more are coming out against these barbarians.

Just because one doesn't understand something doesn't make it BAD.

posted October 04, 2014 01:43 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Different terrorist haters have different techniques. Terrorist Haters from extremist Muslim backgrounds perform beheading or suicide bombing.

Terrorist Haters from extremist Christian backgrounds like Ku Klux Klan lynched African Americans by the hundreds. Earlier Christian terrorists destroyed Native American women and children in acts of grotesque terror, when they should have only battled the men in a fair fight.
And they all religiously read the Bible, Sunday after Sunday.

Terrorist Haters of the Nazi background used gas chambers and Terrorist Haters of Jewish religion laid many villages waste by killing even infants and pregnant women, as per the honest confession and documentation in Deuteronomy.

Terrorist Haters of Hindu background burnt Muslims to death, as they did in 2002 Gujarat Riots.

Thus, no religion is better than the other when it comes to terror from the lunatic fringe of their extremist followers.

Only a complete imbecile would hate a religion or a billion followers of a religion because of the terrorist activities of the lunatic fringe.

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posted October 04, 2014 11:52 PM            

"Switch to a Microsoft account on this PC"

I don't use Microsoft for email and don't want to change my email account to Microsoft.

posted October 05, 2014 07:53 AM            

1. Click on my Mod name

2. You will see a little e mail.

3. Don't send that. You will see my e mail address in there.

4. Copy that e mail address.

4. Bring it back to your own e mail, paste it in the address space and use it as the sending e mail address to me

5. Then, send it to me from your e mail as if you are just e mailing me

6. The e mail on LL has not worked for me, as is.

7. I copy the e mail address in this way

8. If this does not work, I will link you my FB page where you can message me from there

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posted October 05, 2014 08:21 AM            

Don't sweat it if it seems to hard. I will just leave my FB page link for you.

I hate sweating things on the computer LOL

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posted October 10, 2014 09:30 AM            

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Malala Yousafzai of Pakistan and Kailash Satyarthi of India won the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday for risking their lives to fight for children's rights. The decision made Malala, a 17-year-old student and education activist, the youngest-ever Nobel winner.

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The Nobel committee's announcement reflected a delicate diplomatic balance, naming one activist from Pakistan and another from India, two countries that are long-time bitter rivals; one Muslim and one Hindu; both sexes; an elder statesman of child's rights and a youthful advocate who had herself been a victim.

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posted October 10, 2014 01:22 PM            

I read a piece yesterday about how the videos of beheadings are doctored...FAKES...personally I declined to watch or look for the actual vids but apparently some people have and don't believe they are real for numerous reasons...and no footage of actual severed heads was one of those reasons...