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Topic: Rand Paul's Speech On Vaccinations
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 07, 2015 01:33 PM
  
Generally I am super skeptical of anything I find in NaturalNews. They are often as paranoid and sensational as their opposite numbers who push 100% belief in vaccines and their manufacturers. Though their prime point is WHY measles vaccine hasn't eradicated the disease, it is another vaccine Merck is in trouble for. This article contains links to the actual court case papers against Merck, brought by two viriologists who were pressured to falsify research conclusions to make Merck the monopoly recipient of govt contracts. I wonder why mumps didn't make a revival in the Period concerned? http://m.naturalnews.com/news/048522_measles_outbreak_vaccine_hysteria_ science_fraud.html#ixzz3R1ODp8Pd In fact the current administration schedule is not based on science but on achieving the greatest compliance. .. the rationale that most parents haven't the patience for multiple consecutive visits resulted in piling up many vax into a few visits. This overload is responsible for a lot of adverse reactions. .. and makes out harder to pinpoint reactions to individual vaccines. Many viruses cause platelet counts to drop briefly in patients. To put several of these together in one dose invites just such problem. But the logic that those casualties of the schedule should accept their lot as "sacrifice to the greater good" is lost on parents who lose their children or spend years reclaiming their health for the public good especially when fraud and convenience are the motivators. IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 8815
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 07, 2015 04:29 PM
If you recall, back in the day, vacs were not so many in one vial nor were they done to such excess. The compliance part makes sense as the probs cropped up when the dose`s became closer together and multiple. There was a recent outbreak of mumps in one of a sports team. No mother wants to see her son become adult, contract mumps and become sterile. A plus for the vac in childhood. ------------------
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 1056
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 07, 2015 07:26 PM
Juni and I are never at odds about anything. We think precisely the same thing at precisely the same time. Any apparent contradictions exist solely in the eye of the beholder.IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 07, 2015 08:56 PM
Glad to hear it shura. There is no need to be at odds in getting facts really unless people politicize the issue.
http://rt.com/news/188580-syria-children-dead-vaccinations/ IP: Logged |
juniperb
Moderator Posts: 8815
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2015 08:55 AM
 at shura ------------------
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shura
Knowflake Posts: 1056
From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted February 08, 2015 10:39 AM
Rt is the flip side of Fox.
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 8815
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2015 12:11 PM
I wonder what Brian Williams could add to Rands story 
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 08, 2015 12:21 PM
Yes its hard to find rational reporting on either side, or should I say ANY side, these days. Pubmed is the official govt source and has tons of reports that contradict the "vax are safe and effective" (non)party line.As I said i think it's a crap shoot either way. Life has few guarantees and the myriad of extenuating factors makes correlations tricky. Your child might be the one that dies from the disease - OR the vaccination. Re a whooping cough outbreak in fully vaccinated population. They may have changed the formula since then but at the time the vax was considered Protection:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8202096 Loads of interesting entries at the site IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 09, 2015 08:19 PM
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juniperb
Moderator Posts: 8815
From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 10, 2015 08:36 AM
There was a small outbreak of whooping cough here as well. It traced back to adults who had the vac as kids but not a booster as an adult.
Seems most were not aware an adult booster is needed to keep immunity.
Wonder if cdc didn`t catch that or if so, why was it not pushed like all other vacs??
They routinely give the booster in a tetnus booster. ------------------
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Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 10, 2015 12:16 PM
But seriously if herd immunity is necessary for prOtection, shall we close the borders completely in both direcTions? No more travelling abroad or tourists or visiting Netanyahus for instance? What good is the measles vaccine if one travels to a place where the population are infected? IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 11, 2015 05:16 PM
http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/02/vaccinations-the-war-isnt-about-science/ Indeed IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 11, 2015 05:40 PM
https://medium.com/@therebootedbody/bringing-much-needed-sanity-to-the-vaccine-debate-e143f089bfd1IP: Logged |
Catalina
Knowflake Posts: 2670
From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted February 19, 2015 12:46 AM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment interesting story that underlines how some parents might not trust the medical community IP: Logged |
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