posted February 03, 2015 11:45 AM            

"I don't think there's anything extraordinary about resorting to freedom," the potential 2016 presidential candidate, who is a ophthalmologist, said in an interview with CNBC.

"We sometimes give five or six vaccines all at one time," he said of immunizations of newborns for Hepatitis B. "I chose to have mine delayed....Do I think it's ultimately a good idea? Yeah. So I had mine staggered over several months. I've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children, who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. I'm not arguing that vaccines are a bad idea, I think they're a good thing. But I think parents should have some input. The state doesn't own your children, parents own their children, and it is an issue of freedom. "

For the record, the scientific community overwhelmingly supports childhood vaccinations, and there is virtually no evidence that the measles vaccine is unsafe.

Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made an argument similar to Paul's in 2012, claiming that the human papillomavirus (HPV) vaccine could do permanent damage to young girls.

“There’s a woman who came up crying to me tonight after the debate. She said her daughter was given that vaccine,” Bachmann said. “She told me her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result. There are very dangerous consequences.”

posted February 03, 2015 04:34 PM            

Autism is one of hundreds of things that can go wrong. Of course measles can do a lot of damage too but the current hysteria is ridiculous. A hundred cases being called an epidemic? Give me a break!

If there were NO measles vax you're child would still be safer getting it than being driven around in a car. Death by auto is far more likely statistically.

posted February 04, 2015 12:09 AM            

ELECTION 2016
Hillary's new 'granny state' buried in mockery

Immunization message elicits wave of laughter online

With a snarky message on Twitter, Hillary Clinton has opened herself up to both suspicion and outright mockery, as fellow Twitter users wonder if the potential 2016 Democrat presidential candidate plans to enforce a “granny state” if elected.

Clinton waded into the debate over compulsory immunizations Monday, claiming in a tweet, “The science is clear … let’s protect all our kids.”

She followed it with the hashtag comment, “#GrandmothersKnowBest.”

Bill Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard, however, responded with a tweet of his own: “Am I the only one who finds Hillary’s #GrandmothersKnowBest hashtag not just cloying but creepy? Welcome to the grand-nanny state.”

Others found the humor in Clinton’s hashtag simply too rich to resist.

“Hillary shows a complete lack of self-awareness with her #GrandmothersKnowBest hashtag,” commented Terri@CantBelieve10. “This is going to be fun!”

Several examples of the “fun” can be seen below:

Some instead opted for more off-color humor, referring back to President Bill Clinton’s Oval Office affair with a much younger Monica Lewinsky:

Still others added graphics to their mockery, like this one, where actress Betty White (in blue) perhaps best illustrates the reaction to “Granny Hillary”:

posted February 04, 2015 08:59 AM            

He`s no better or no worse than the rest of the wannabes vieing for 2016

posted February 04, 2015 11:23 AM            

The nurse Christie quarantined who then spent weeks flaunting her right to roam is now shouting about how everyone should HAVE to have the MMR. When it was her own freedom she insisted on making her own choice.

Hypocrites much? Do these people know how many vaccines children are expected to weather before the age of 6? Over 100 now and many unnecessary.

In the old days a sick child was put to bed and Doc csme to see them. Now Doctors have thousands of patients , dont make housecalls and are banning unvaxxed kids from their practices Just In Case they have measles and
Infect someone. The efficacy of the vaccine that only works around other healthy people is never questioned.

posted February 04, 2015 01:05 PM            

Yeah, it's not mandatory! Right! Check!

Of course, most states also have laws requiring school age children to attend SCHOOL and hold parents legally responsible to make sure their children attend SCHOOL.

How's that for a dichotomy?

You can't go to SCHOOL if you're not vaccinated but your parents can be prosecuted if you don't go to SCHOOL.

Some states have an exemption to vaccination for medical or religious reasons. Medical requires a doctor's finding vaccination would be harmful to your health. Religious? Well, I don't know any religion which rejects vaccinations. Philosophical beliefs that vaccinations might be harmful to your child's health are not permitted.

Now, let's talk about the sudden outbreak of Measles which is causing all this vaccination hysteria.

More than 100,000 Mexican and Central American children entered the US last year, welcomed by O'Bomber, they carried Measles into the US and spread it all over America. Before that, Measles was thought to be a disease of the past in America.

Top Doctor: Source Of Measles Spreading Rapidly In Southern California Is Likely To Be…
By Steve Straub

It is looking more and more likely that the current outbreak of measles in Southern California is a direct result of Obama’s “open border” policy and the massive influx of illegals into our country.

Via Gateway Pundit:

With the Disneyland measles outbreak expected to grow, California hospitals and doctors’ offices are preparing for new cases and a flood of questions from patients worried about getting the disease. So far 68 cases of measles have been reported in California this year, the bulk of them in people who visited — or had contact with someone who visited — two Disney theme parks in Anaheim. The outbreak could get much worse.

In 2011, there were 222 confirmed Measles cases in the United States, 200 were linked with importations, including 72 that were linked with importations from other countries.

Dr. Elizabeth Lee Vliet warned about the possibility that the influx of illegal immigrant children would cause a surge in disease at The Monitor back in June 2014:

A flood of illegals has massively surged at our Southwestern borders. The economic impact of medical care, education and incarceration for illegals forced on taxpayers is bankrupting Arizona.

Why are such swarms now entering the United States illegally, particularly children? Newspapers in Mexico and Central and South America are actually describing U.S. “open borders,” encouraging people to come with promises of food stamps or “amnesty.” It is textbook Cloward-Piven strategy to overwhelm and collapse the economic and social systems, in order to replace them with a “new socialist order” under federal control.

Carried by this tsunami of illegals are the invisible “travelers” our politicians don’t like to mention: diseases the United States had controlled or virtually eradicated: tuberculosis (TB), Chagas disease, dengue fever, hepatitis, malaria and measles. I have been working on medical projects in Central and South America since 2009, so I am aware of problems these countries face from such diseases…
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/top-doctor-so urce-of-measles-spreading-rapidly-in-southern-california-is-likely-to-be

Vermont Debates Vaccines: Should Parents Be Able to Opt Out?
April 25, 2012
LARA SALAHI

As Nicole Matten spoke about the sudden death of her 7-year-old daughter, she clasped a large, framed portrait of the smiling girl and held back her tears.

"She was perfectly healthy," Matten told a crowd outside Vermont's Department of Public Health in March. Kaylynne, she said, was healthy, until she was given a routine flu shot at her pediatrician's office last December. She fell ill almost instantly, she said, and was dead within days.

Matten was one of a handful of Vermont residents to rally against a bill that would make vaccines mandatory for school-aged children by eliminating "philosophical exemption" as a reason to opt out of the shots.

posted February 04, 2015 04:37 PM            

But no one is surprised that jwhop and his crowd are pushing the blame onto Obama...whom they apparently see as God Almighty, the cause of everything

posted February 04, 2015 09:36 PM            

Didn't you get it? Several diseases were fully controlled or virtually eradicated in the US....until O'Bomber summoned illegal aliens...and their children who are carriers of Measles and other diseases to the United States.

Of course O'Bomber and his idiotic open borders policies are responsible for these diseases spreading once again in the United States.

posted February 04, 2015 10:46 PM            

We have had immigrants and so called immigration problems for a couple of hundred years now. See the train tracks, high rises, bridges and dams they built? How about the causeway to the Keys? Get a horse.

posted February 05, 2015 07:25 AM            

Open borders is a leftist wet dream as is anything which damages America and Americans.

We wouldn't now need vaccinations for Measles if we didn't have an influx of illegal immigrants. O'Bomber and his lapdog political activists posing as "journalists" don't want to talk about where these cases are coming from...and neither do you.

February 5, 2015
Vaccinations are a Red Herring
Brian C. Joondeph

Predictably, the measles epidemic is morphing onto a political hot potato, much like global warming. Prospective Republican presidential candidates are being quizzed about vaccinations and whether or not they should be mandatory. The assumption is that the current measles outbreak is due to low measles vaccination rates, yet no questions or answers have been put forth addressing the far more likely cause of the outbreak -- illegal immigration.

Measles, like smallpox, has been eradicated. According to the CDC, “In 2000, the United States declared that measles was eliminated from this country.” This graph illustrates how measles cases dropped dramatically after the measles vaccine was introduced in the 1960s.

Then why are we seeing this sudden surge in measles cases? Lack of vaccinations in the U.S. doesn’t cause the disease, but instead facilitates its spread. If a disease has been eradicated, vaccination is no longer necessary. The CDC reminds us, “Routine smallpox vaccination among the American public stopped in 1972 after the disease was eradicated in the United States.” Arguments about measles vaccinations are a red herring if measles has been truly eradicated.

Then why the surge in cases? The only explanation is that new cases are being introduced into the United States. Since 2001, there have typically been less than 100 measles cases per year in the U.S. In 2014, this number jumped to over 600 cases, with 102 cases alone in January of 2015. The CDC connects the dots. “Measles is still common in many parts of the world including some countries in Europe, Asia, the Pacific, and Africa.” Furthermore, “Travelers with measles continue to bring the disease into the U.S.” Replace “travelers” with “immigrants.”

Guess where illegal immigrants to the U.S. are coming from? The same parts of the world where measles is still common. The current outbreak is linked to initial exposure in December at Disneyland in Anaheim, California. Not Omaha, not Bozeman, but California, where 7 percent of residents are in the country illegally. In Los Angeles, the number is even higher where 1 in 10 residents are illegal.

What does this have to do with vaccinations? If measles wasn’t being brought into the U.S., vaccinations would not even be necessary, as with smallpox. The current surge in measles cases coincides perfectly with the Obama Administration’s policy to open our southern border. As I wrote last year, it’s not only measles crossing the border, but also other infectious diseases such as TB. Yet the media chooses to ignore this inconvenient truth and instead play gotcha games with Rand Paul and Chris Christie.

NBC is trying to portray Rand Paul as a rube for linking vaccines to mental disorders. Presumably they are referring to autism, which would fall under the spectrum of mental disorders. A few days ago, NBC interviewed the president before the Super Bowl. NBC’s Savannah Guthrie asked relevant, timely, and hard-hitting questions about beer when she could have instead asked the president about his previous statements on vaccines and autism. In 2008, then candidate Obama said, “We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate; Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines. This person included.” She might also have asked about the surge in illegal immigration coincident with the surge in measles cases. It seems that only potential Republican presidential candidates are kooks for discussing vaccines and autism. And no one is making the connection between illegal immigration and measles.

Once again, common sense is in short supply when confronting science. Whether global warming or measles, it’s not hard to know where junk science and politics ends and true science begins. Vaccinations will certainly prevent the spread of measles, but a 100 percent vaccination rate won’t happen, still leaving plenty of children vulnerable to measles if exposed. Perhaps it would be more useful to be discussing measles exposure and eradication and the lessons learned with smallpox.

Brian C Joondeph, MD, MPS, a Denver based physician, is an advocate of smaller, more efficient government. Twitter @retinaldoctor.

posted February 05, 2015 12:51 PM            

Tell me, seeing as we have had an illegal alien problem for a long tim e, why are they only now bringing measles with them? Why do all the Americans touring and living in more affordable Mexico not affected?

posted February 06, 2015 09:35 AM            

Suddenly, there's an outbreak of Measles, a disease wiped out for years in America.

Well, you're certainly callous about Ebola. This is a disease which has a 90% fatality rate. Are you part of a death cult?

posted February 06, 2015 10:50 AM            

Last year a large outbreak in the Amish community was brought home by some of their missionaries. They had so many casualties they broke custom and got vaccinated in unusually large numbers.

This current outbreak has been traced to an Asian strain and they don't yet know whether the carrier was a Tourist or resident but your suggestion that the Hordes of Dirty Aliens flooding over the Southern border are the obvious source is not based in any fact but the desire to scare people and stigmatize Latinos..

I repeat THEY DONT KNOW ie despite their investigative team they haven't found ONE person..but you, sitting in your chair in Florida, KNOW It's got to be Obama's fault (isn't everything?) And those Dirty Hordes

In fact they have higher vaccination rates in Mexico and central America than we do here.

posted February 06, 2015 03:37 PM            

Childhood vaccines save lives.

If the population was vacced, as in the past, a few would get sick but many many more lives would be saved.

Go ahead blast me

posted February 06, 2015 05:04 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Catalina:
http://vaers.hhs.gov/index

Many docs are not entirely convinced either

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I know well because shura and I have been at odds over this for years. She is against and I am for basic childhood vaccines.
I remember all to well the adults with polio and the children who suffered horribly from many of todays preventable diseases .
Here it is required for school entry and not an issue at all.

posted February 06, 2015 06:36 PM            

Some people are hysterical about it but others have good reasons for concerns. How do you know if a newborn its allergic to neomycin, for instance, a contraindicator for the Hep vax they give newborns?