posted June 29, 2016 04:02 AM            

(crickets)

That's ok. I doubt there are many people here that are from Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen, or Afghanistan. I know people from all of those places, but I don't create these threads because I have no need of them. Some people like them and need to share and reach out. I understand that and I support it. But I always.. always wonder why, for those members (moderators actually) who like to layer their astrology and grief with lectures to the Muslim community and outright bigotry, why there is never a "sad day" east of the Black Sea.

...I suppose it's harder to make your subversive cases against Muslims when Muslims are the ones dying?

Again this is directed at a select few and not the people who are terrified by what's happening in the world and need to reach out to someone.

And this is a vent that I just didn't feel was appropriate for sweet pea and something I don't like to get into with the OP of those threads (even if I feel he is pushing a particular agenda) because I actually do want to respect the lives of those murdered.

posted June 29, 2016 09:31 PM            

THIS HIDDEN FACT PREDICTS TERRORISM
June 29, 2016

How'd you like to be running a presidential campaign dependent on Muslims not acting up again between now and Nov. 8? It's getting awfully hard for the media to keep being indignant about Trump's proposed Muslim ban, as long as Muslims keep blowing things up and shooting people.

I'm assuming here that The Washington Post has not already ruled the Muslims who blew up the Istanbul Airport to be self-hating gays infected by America's culture of homophobia.

It turns out, Omar Mateen, the Orlando nightclub shooter, also wasn't a self-hating gay, despite media excitement over that rumor. The FBI has now run down every alleged gay partner of Omar's, searched his phone and computers, and the alleged gay lovers either had the wrong guy or were lying, and there's no evidence he was on any gay websites or apps.

As a Muslim immigrant explained in a curbside interview videotaped by Tony Vera at the Los Angeles International Airport recently -- before she was arrested -- "that's what we do, we bomb people."

With impeccable timing, three days before the Istanbul bombing, the liberal Guardian (UK) ran an article sneering at Brexit supporters for wanting out of the European Union before Turkey became a member and the door was thrown open to unlimited migration from this Muslim country that shares a border with Syria, Iraq and Iran.

The article by Liz Cookman was titled, "Turkey, the Brexit bogeyman, is not so different from the UK."

Liz had a lot of fun with the Brexit-supporting ninnies, so relieved that "the Turks are no longer coming." She referred to Turkey as "the country whose people Britons are apparently petrified of," despite the fact that "it turns out Britain and Turkey are not so different after all."

One way they're a little different is that Britain has fewer Muslims on hand to blow things up. The attack this Tuesday, which left dozens dead and more than 100 wounded, is the seventh major terrorist bombing in Turkey so far this year, with a total death count in the hundreds.

As with the British media, the American media keep telling us that all these Muslim terrorist attacks have nothing to do with Muslims, and Donald Trump's suggestion that we impose a temporary moratorium on Muslim immigration is madness, bigoted, racist.

Thank God Hitler didn't claim "Mein Kampf" was a holy book and the Fuhrerbunker a mosque.

Western governments have devoted incalculable resources to developing some diagnostic test other than "Muslim" to predict terrorism. As the New York Times reported earlier this year:

"What turns people toward violence -- and whether they can be steered away from it -- are questions that have bedeviled governments around the world for generations. Those questions have taken on fresh urgency with the rise of the Islamic State and the string of attacks in Europe and the United States. Despite millions of dollars of government-sponsored research, and a much-publicized White House pledge to find answers, there is still nothing close to a consensus on why someone becomes a terrorist."

I have a possible indicator! M-U-S-L- ...

After the July 7, 2005, London subway bombing by Muslim terrorists that killed 52 people, the British MI5 undertook its own highly sophisticated study, examining hundreds of cases. But the UK's security agency discovered that terrorists are a wildly diverse lot. They worshipped at a variety of different mosques, for example.

Some terrorists were very religious Muslims and some barely practicing. Most were men, but some were women. There were young and old terrorists, highly educated as well as uneducated, some loners and some married with children.

So, according to MI5, the predictive power of every factor is very low -- other than: Is a Muslim.

The researchers claimed their work would "challenge the stereotypes" about who becomes a terrorist, but it pretty much confirmed mine.

Republicans who are furious with Trump for proposing that we hit the pause button on this one category of Third World mass immigration have nothing at all to say about the census report this week showing Teddy Kennedy's 1965 immigration act has so transformed the country that a majority of babies born in the United States today are not white.

The only thing Republicans can do is denounce Obama for not using the words "radical Islamic terrorism." (As long as they brought up Words Politicians Refuse to Use, when will the eunuchs work up the nerve to say "illegal alien," "anchor baby" and "amnesty"?)

Obama is a hapless fool, but what is so special about the words "radical Islam"? Maybe it's not radical Islam. Maybe it's just "Islam."

posted June 29, 2016 11:28 PM            

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I found out about the bombing last night, when I was at the hospital. I hadn't watched the news since last week, and couldn't believe what I was seeing.

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posted July 01, 2016 03:48 PM            

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After reading your comment I thought, where do you start with people like this?

posted July 01, 2016 06:30 PM            

Having been raised in a church-going Christian family and taught the Golden Rule, I ask very similar questions at times. Even more so now as a non-sectarian practitioner of Zen, and better informed citizen of the world.

Every religion has its version of the Golden Rule.

This means it can be applied to any member of the human family, even if they live in countries considered enemies to our own. Jesus said, Love your enemies[i/].
I have even had my sympathies or patriotism questioned because I believe in applying the Golden Rule honestly and equally ... [i]How would I feel, and how would I want to be treated if I were in their position?.

It doesn't make for a popular politics, but I don't care. It might chill a conversation, but I don't care.

We need to do better by our fellow human beings who are all members of the human family, all travelers with us on Spaceship Earth (as Bucky Fuller would say).

This Earth truly is one home with one family -- and in that I include all sentient beings traveling with us. We do not express Love and goodness to them, because they are worth it. They never needed to earn it. We express Love and goodness, because it is what comes from within us and expresses our own goodness, because it feels better to Love.

posted July 02, 2016 03:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

We need to do better by our fellow human beings who are all members of the human family, all travelers with us on Spaceship Earth (as Bucky Fuller would say).

This Earth truly is one home with one family -- and in that I include all sentient beings traveling with us. We do not express Love and goodness to them, because they are worth it. They never needed to earn it. We express Love and goodness, because it is what comes from within us and expresses our own goodness, because it feels better to Love.

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And this is the basic fundamental truth that if understood eliminates the need for any other knowledge of the world .

However, just like in the Muslim world, I witness in the western world what seems to be a crisis of faith. The masses are confused and demoralized and need renewed faith in their own strength and abilities.

Americans need to learn and get control of and exercise their American rights. Educating ourselves and then using the powers (gifts) available to us and no one else in the world is an act of mercy to the world. When we save ourselves, we save the world. Exercising the will of the American people preserves the right of the world's people to exercise their will. Whether the American people feel they care about the world or not, this is the natural effect of action rooted in sound knowledge and education rather than reactionism. That's what I see when I travel east and then back home again. (eta) but the western problem like the eastern problem, is education.

Kannon, your writing has healing powers. I hope you keep writing speaking directly to The People, because like I said we Americans need to be reminded of our power. We have been terrorized so long in so many ways.

Healing Orlando & the USA

As a nation if WE the People of the USA want to do better towards meeting our shared ideals, we must think past the talking heads who yammer for living. We don’t need their affirmations or agitations. In fact, we can turn them off all together. It is better to look to each other for affirmation of our shared humanity. WE are souls of power who are here doing the co-creating of our human experience.

WE can do better and WE will.

WE can do better than thousands of lives lost each year to suicide and random acts of madness.

WE can do better than remain divided for the convenience of ego-driven persons who crave power and see suffering as an opening to their benefit.

WE can do better by our own communities than just memorialize the victims and wait for the next gunshots.

posted July 02, 2016 04:45 AM            

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Interesting thoughts and questions, venus2tinkerbell.

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Every religion has its version of the Golden Rule.

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So they're all the same religion... and the fear in our hearts dictates to each one of us the relevance of the differences between them..and we have that right.

Yes I agree.

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We need to do better by our fellow human beings who are all members of the human family, all travelers with us on Spaceship Earth (as Bucky Fuller would say).

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posted July 05, 2016 08:17 PM            

Saudi Arabia http://krqe.com/2016/07/05/saudi-arabia-names-pakistani-man-as-suicide-bomber-in-jiddah/

posted July 07, 2016 11:04 PM            

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Saudi Arabia http://krqe.com/2016/07/05/saudi-arabia-names-pakistani-man-as-suicide-bomber-in-jidda h/

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Thank you for thinking of me and us.

187 people killed in Bangladesh...

Inna lilahi wa Inna ilayhi rajiun

From God we came and to God is our return

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Mr. Fuller's birthday is July 12... http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Fuller%2C_Buckminister

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Thank you. He's so interesting. I think my studies will introduce me to many interesting and genius people. I'm looking forward to it.

posted July 08, 2016 02:04 AM            

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After reading your comment I thought, where do you start with people like this?

I decided the best thing to do is suggest that people study a little financial history. Keywords are money changers, private central banks, Andrew Jackson "I killed the banks" . Damn right freedom isn't free. It costs knowledge.

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In this comment I edited out some sentences saying if Muslim immigrants are banned in this country, the false flaggers will have to try to link "terror" to the Black Muslim community...well after the shooting of the Dallas officers I am watching Fox and whoever this guy is has just speculated that there might be a connection between ISIS and the Black American community in general! Saying ISIS is trying to recruit in the community and have their hearts set on killing our American cops... "ISIS is very active".

Maybe this is why he's on at 2 in the morning... because he's an idiot.

...But this is what we call being primed..and it's always the idiots doing the priming.

posted July 08, 2016 05:55 PM            

DALLAS, TEXAS July 7, 2016
-- Shot 12 Officers, 2 Civilians, leaving 5 Officers Dead
(as of Jul 8, 552pm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of_Dallas_police_officers

posted July 10, 2016 08:28 AM            

Nobody commented on the chart.

I have friends from Istanbul, haven't talked to them in years but we lived together and went through some pivotal experiences together.

posted July 10, 2016 08:32 AM            

I also had a friend from Bangladesh and learned about the country first-hand from her.

posted July 13, 2016 11:50 AM            

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I have to be functional for my kids' sake.

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We can go over the history and the causes and effects of all the terrible things happening in the world. In the end the root cause of everything is a failure to love one another, and a failure to understand the responsibility we have to one another- the responsibilities men have to women, and women have to men- the responsibilities society has to the children, the elderly, the poor.

It's through our neglect of one another, and the corruption of education that societies are ruined.

Interestingly, when everything that we loved above ourselves and one another is consumed by the confusion, it will be the 'only one thing'; Love, that we will have left to hold to. Love and hope.

I believe you have your priorities straight, and I believe you're on the right path.

posted July 16, 2016 07:10 AM            

Within 24 hours, a failed Coup in Turkey.

For a week, Kashmir Valley Protestors have been attacked by Indian Military, 43 slaughtered so far.

This is going to escalate, both Astrologically as well as in terms of an Ancient Prophecy coming to pass, 70 years from formation of Israel [May 1948 to May 2018].

posted July 27, 2016 08:43 AM            

Slain French Priest Remembered, Honored
Cathy Burke
Tuesday, 26 Jul 2016

The Rev. Jacques Hamel — a Catholic cleric whose throat was slit while saying Mass in a barbaric attack for which ISIS claimed responsibility — was a selfless, grandfatherly priest "loved by all" in his small-town parish in France.

The 85-year-old priest, though a decade past retirement age, chose to continue tending to parishioners in the working-class town of St.-Étienne-du-Rouvray, the Rev. August Moanda-Phuati tells the New York Times.

"Seeing how few priests were around he decided to stay and work, to continue to be of service to people, up until it all ended, tragically," he tells the newspaper. "He was loved by all. He was a little like a grandfather. We were happy when he was around and worried when we hadn’t seen him in a while."

The town's mayor, Hubert Wulfranc, broke down in tears after meeting with France's President Francois Hollande and other officials, the Times reports.

"A brutal act of barbarism has taken away our priest and gravely wounded a parishioner," he said. "I told the president of the republic that it was absolutely necessary that this doesn’t happen again. Let us be the last to cry."

"He was joyous, sometimes anxious, like those who want everything to be done well," the Rev. Philippe Maheut, vicar general of the archdiocese of Rouen, tells the Times.

"He was a humble, gentle person. He came here to be of service. What really impressed people was that, at that age, he still had the will to serve. He was fully engaged with the community, and very much appreciated. People appreciated his humility."

In the United States, there was outrage at the attack and mourning for the "martyr" priest.

Franklin Graham: Praying for the people of Rouen, France after men claiming allegiance to ISIS attacked a church during service and killed the priest.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio called the priest a "true Christian martyr," and Franklin Graham asked for prayers.

Arkansas Republican Sen. Tom Cotton called the attack "the face of evil."

"To invade a sanctuary open to all — a place of worship and refuge — to kill and terrorize innocent people who devoted their lives to the teachings of Christ lays bare the barbarism of radical jihadism. I am outraged for the families of the victims, for our ally France, for the Catholic Church, and for humanity," he said.

posted July 27, 2016 02:35 PM            

I don't celebrate the murder of innocent citizens of France or any other country by Islamic terrorists or anyone else.