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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 17, 2016 04:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
If you are offended by Hillary's deplorables comment, and you are voting for Trump....you are a deplorable...sorry....not sorry


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posted September 17, 2016 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I'm not offended. I was just giving you an example, which, you, of course, ignored.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At least Hillary only called half of Trump's supporters deplorable. You just said everyone who votes for him is. And SV, you support that? You're the epitome of an open-minded and tolerant liberal, aren't you? Wow. Just wow. So much hatred. And you call Jwhop hateful?

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posted September 17, 2016 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bluejay:
If you are offended by Hillary's deplorables comment, and you are voting for Trump....you are a deplorable...sorry....not sorry



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posted September 17, 2016 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we've established that liberals talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk. Unless you two are NOT representative of the typical liberal. I see hatred being spewed. No tolerance for others' beliefs. Insults. Wow. My mom sure isn't like that. I would hope more liberals are like her and not like you two.

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posted September 17, 2016 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I support the idea that they're only offended if they suspect that they may be a deplorable. If they know that they're not sexist, racist, etc. then they shouldn't be offended, since she's obviously not talking about them.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're quite good at personal attacks. You are also quite the bully. But you have the same free speech here that Jwhop does. And we all know what a disability looks like. Ableism, however, as you have proven, is subjective. You don't know what Trump was thinking. But I provided evidence to refute your very biased opinion. That's right. Opinion. Your interpretation of a video based on a limited number of facts. But in light of new information, that video isn't at all what it appeared to be when viewed with the limiting information. I think it's quite clear that you don't know what ableism looks like. You are certainly entitled to that opinion. Hell, you can claim to be the reincarnation of King Tut or anything else. Free speech.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just being honest. You cling to your narrow belief even when shown you are factually wrong. You can FEEL that Trump is an ableist, but the facts say otherwise. Whatever Trump has said or done is up for debate, but he did not make fun of that reporter's disability. Ergo, you must not know what ableism looks like. Your opinion is just that. The factual evidence tells a different story.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You hate. You do personal attacks. You bully others, as you are attempting to do now. All of that which you accuse me of, except for being an ableist. And as far as the ableism, I defend the truth. It's a horrible thing, like all discrimination. But Trump didn't engage in it.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Just being honest. You cling to your narrow belief even when shown you are factually wrong. You can FEEL that Trump is an ableist, but the facts say otherwise. Whatever Trump has said or done is up for debate, but he did not make fun of that reporter's disability. Ergo, you must not know what ableism looks like. Your opinion is just that. The factual evidence tells a different story.

All we have to go off of is his actions. He mocked the reporter. You're hoping to see something different based off of all of the their people he's mocked. Ten wrongs don't make a right.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, you do gaslighting well also. As I said, you do everything you accuse others of. Almost everything. I haven't seen you make ableism comments. But me proving your ableism comments about Trump being false with video proof doesn't make me support ableism. I abhor all discrimination in any form. You are actually worse than you claim Jwhop to be. He's a straight shooter. You can't even see that you do all you accuse him of.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He did impressions of people. People who were NOT disabled. They all looked similar. One looked exactly the same. That person wasn't disabled. If this were a trial, the jury would say not guilty. How you feel does not overrule the facts. No, I don't know his thoughts, but neither do you. Neither of us is a seer. The evidence shows that Trump makes that voice and those gestures whenever he does an impression of someone.

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posted September 17, 2016 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never called you lazy or braindead.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm pretty sure the only thing I've called you is closed-minded, which I apologized for, but I take that back. While you have called me horrible names just tonight alone. I have news for you. You do exactly what you accuse Jwhop of. Oh, and I called you a bully. I should rephrase that. You bully others when they call you out on your BS. You resort to petty insults. But I own the closed-minded comment. You are definitely that. Accusing me of calling you lazy and braindead is deserving of an apology for false accusations, but I won't hold my breath.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said you were too busy looking for Hillary's video. And no, I don't agree with many things people say on the entire site. There is freedom of expression at LL. My silence often means that I don't agree with something, not that I do. My silence doesn't show approval of anything. If someone claims something way out there, or if it's something I don't believe, or a topic I am not interested in, I won't comment. To equate no comments with approval on a site of free expression is about the most ludicrous thing I have ever heard here in 16 years.

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posted September 17, 2016 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2016 06:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop is his own person. Just as you are. If I feel you are something, I will gladly tell you, as I have. You have PERSONALLY attacked my beliefs, my character, and accused me of promoting ableism on the site. The only reason you aren't banned is because of the wider latitude allowed in this particular Forum. You see, one thing I am not is a hypocrite.

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