posted October 01, 2016 03:42 PM            

Likewise I am not surprised that you took my pointing out the issue with your link as a Dodge of some kind. You pretend not to notice I am not now nor never a Clinton fan..for rhetorical reasons? I was never going to read the latest Gotcha fantasy on her.. with all the real points that could be argued against her the Detracting Faction picks on the lamest..but only every time. Zzzzzzz...

I'm surprised nobody is claiming it was a clone, since PROOF abounds online that she is dead. Or that her pneumonia is really advanced Parkinsons...

posted October 02, 2016 11:42 PM            

I liked how they point out about the repetition. One thing I couldn't understand is why Trump repeats himself over and over, which grates on me and contributed to why I don't like listening to him speak. But according to this, it's a good psychological tactic that nets more fish than it loses.

As a bonus, it also explains why laugh tracks are important on sitcoms despite that most people don't like them. And it made sense. (The canned laughter tends to drive me away just as Trump--or anyone else--repeating himself does.)

He also describes why Hillary came off as fake, which I thought were some good observations. (And also mentions--at least I caught it--why actors and other professional entertainers tend to do well in politics, their scripted speeches come off as less robotic and fake.)

He also talks about what they both (respectively) did right.

His opinion is that neither hit a home run and it was close (and that neither are going to benefit greatly from their respective performances), but that Trump barely won it (keeping in mind that he's commenting strictly on the charisma perspective, not the merit of what was actually said, though he does point out that people vote more how they feel about a candidate more than anything else, which gives Trump an edge among those unhappy with either choice--but he also points out that how it gets analyzed in the media starting the next day also has an effect).

posted October 03, 2016 10:25 AM            

Trump repeats his campaign message at rallies across the country. You would notice that there's a different audience at each campaign rally.

posted October 03, 2016 04:59 PM            

Suggesting Bernie's supporters are irresponsible isn't a good tactic for getting their votes.

Calling Bernie's supporters ignorant and cellar dwellers who want free stuff is sure to engender warm fuzzy feeling for you..NOT.

Now, a joint appearance...Hillary The Corrupt and Bernie Sanders had to be cancelled.

October 3, 2016
Awkward: Sanders-Clinton joint appearance canceled in wake of Hillary insulting Sanders supporters as basement dwellers
Thomas Lifson

Democrats are scrambling to paper over the rift in their party between the Clinton faction, bought off by globalist crony capitalists, and the Sanders-supporting, debt-ridden, lumpen college graduates who want free stuff. Among her wealthy peers at a fundraiser, Hillary Clinton condescended to the basement-dwelling unfortunates who have mortgaged their futures in return for a college degree providing no useful skills valued in the marketplace.

Sanders, basking in newfound post-campaign fame and wealth (he just bought his third house for more money than his reported net worth on Senate disclosure forms), has done an awkward shuffle. He recognizes that the Clintons have all the power in the Democratic Party, for they just kicked his butt despite obvious enthusiasm and support.

He is trying to have it both ways.

1. “I agree with her”

Well, I agree with her. What she’s saying is what I suggested a moment ago. There are young people who went deeply into debt, worked very hard to get a good education, and yet they are getting out of school and they can’t find decent-paying jobs. And that’s a major problem. They are living in their parents’ basements. And that’s the point there.

2. “Of course” it bothers me

Asked during an appearance on CNN's "State of the Union" whether the audio bothered him, Sanders responded: "Well, look, of course it does."

"But we were in the middle of a campaign and … in some of the statements that I made about Hillary Clinton, you can see real differences," he quickly added. "So we have differences. There's nothing to be surprised about. That's what a campaign is all about."

posted October 03, 2016 05:56 PM            

Here is the actual excerpt from her speech...

“It is important to recognize what’s going on in this election. Everybody who’s ever been in an election that I’m aware of is quite bewildered because there is a strain of, on the one hand, the kind of populist, nationalist, xenophobic, discriminatory kind of approach that we hear too much of from the Republican candidates. And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means, but it’s something that they deeply feel.

So as a friend of mine said the other day, I am occupying from the center-left to the center-right. And I don’t have much company there. Because it is difficult when you’re running to be president, and you understand how hard the job is — I don’t want to overpromise. I don’t want to tell people things that I know we cannot do.

Some are new to politics completely. They’re children of the Great Recession. And they are living in their parents’ basement. They feel they got their education and the jobs that are available to them are not at all what they envisioned for themselves. And they don’t see much of a future. I met with a group of young black millennials today and you know one of the young women said, “You know, none of us feel that we have the job that we should have gotten out of college. And we don’t believe the job market is going to give us much of a chance."

So that is a mindset that is really affecting their politics. And so if you’re feeling like you’re consigned to, you know, being a barista, or you know, some other job that doesn’t pay a lot, and doesn’t have some other ladder of opportunity attached to it, then the idea that maybe, just maybe, you could be part of a political revolution is pretty appealing.

So I think we should all be really understanding of that and should try to do the best we can not to be, you know, a wet blanket on idealism. We want people to be idealistic. We want them to set big goals. But to take what we can achieve now and try to present them as bigger goals.”

posted October 03, 2016 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Here's an analysis from a perspective of examining the charisma of both Trump and Hillary (as opposed to an ideological perspective):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wErWmULKBE

I liked how they point out about the repetition. One thing I couldn't understand is why Trump repeats himself over and over, which grates on me and contributed to why I don't like listening to him speak. But according to this, it's a good psychological tactic that nets more fish than it loses.

As a bonus, it also explains why laugh tracks are important on sitcoms despite that most people don't like them. And it made sense. (The canned laughter tends to drive me away just as Trump--or anyone else--repeating himself does.)

He also describes why Hillary came off as fake, which I thought were some good observations. (And also mentions--at least I caught it--why actors and other professional entertainers tend to do well in politics, their scripted speeches come off as less robotic and fake.)

He also talks about what they both (respectively) did right.

His opinion is that neither hit a home run and it was close (and that neither are going to benefit greatly from their respective performances), but that Trump barely won it (keeping in mind that he's commenting strictly on the charisma perspective, not the merit of what was actually said, though he does point out that people vote more how they feel about a candidate more than anything else, which gives Trump an edge among those unhappy with either choice--but he also points out that how it gets analyzed in the media starting the next day also has an effect).

Just sharing for those interested. If any want to contradict what that guy doing the analysis of the candidate's charisma said, feel free, I'll probably enjoy a different perspective.

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Thanks for that video. I absolutely agree with his assessment that Trump got worse and Hillary got better as the debate went on.

As far as charisma goes, I don't think anyone would argue that Bill Clinton, rather than Hillary, got the dose of charisma in that family!

Hopefully, enough voters will also be interested in knowledge, experience, lack of craziness, and actual plans instead of just "charisma."

posted October 03, 2016 06:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
^Nice try, taking Hillary's statement out of context and attempting to paint her comments as condescending...

Anyone that actually takes the time to listen to or read her exact words can see that she is empathizing with millennials that are in this situation. She's not insulting them.

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posted October 03, 2016 11:30 PM            

Hillary The Corrupt condescending? Not!

posted October 04, 2016 12:20 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by jwhop:
"^Nice try, taking Hillary's statement out of context and attempting to paint her comments as condescending."

Hillary The Corrupt condescending? Not!

Pure and simple insults to Bernie supporters.

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How is empathizing with their grievances insulting? It shows that Hillary understands their concerns and what motivates many millennials to get involved in the political process.

I guess Hillary should be using Trump's strategy that he uses to reach out to black voters and remind them that they are poor, uneducated, destitute, and at risk of getting shot every time they check the mail for their welfare checks. Cause that's not condescending right?

posted October 04, 2016 08:42 AM            

Now, see how sympathetic I am.

posted October 04, 2016 04:17 PM            

Hillary has my vote and I have a genius level IQ. Trump is the one winning with the uneducated crowd. His largest voting block consists of uneducated white men with a high school education or less, with 76% of their support. So I agree, I hope the "intellectually challenged" voters do us all a favor and stay home on election day.

posted October 04, 2016 04:39 PM            

"And they are living in their parents’ basement"....(cellar dwellers)

"And on the other side, there’s just a deep desire to believe that we can have free college, free healthcare, that what we’ve done hasn’t gone far enough, and that we just need to, you know, go as far as, you know, Scandinavia, whatever that means, and half the people don’t know what that means,"....(ignorant Bernie supporters wanting free stuff from government)