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etherealsaturn
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posted September 30, 2016 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Yeah Randall, even at a leftist site, Trump trounces Hillary The Corrupt in their own snap poll.

If Hillary's rally audiences get any smaller, she'll be able to save rent money and hold her rallies in a phone booth.

"After watching the View yesterday and her interview, what the hell is Trump thinking to use Bills affairs against Clinton or hammering on Alicia`s lifestyle?"


Ummm, why is this so hard to understand? Hillary The Corrupt is attempting to paint Trump as a woman hater. Hillary has woman hating moments in her own past. Remember Hillary characterizing women Kommander Korruption molested, raped, sexually assaulted or propositioned as "bimbos", "trailer trash". Remember Hillary assigning one of her staff to the "Bimbo Patrol"?


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posted September 30, 2016 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary, They Have Names
Daniel J. Flynn
September 30, 2016

Certainly she knows: It never goes away.

“Donald, she has a name,” Hillary Clinton announced at Monday’s presidential debate. “Her name is Alicia Machado. And she has become a U.S. citizen and you can bet she is going to vote this November.”

Hillary, they have many names. Their names are Juanita Broaddrick, Gennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, Eileen Wellstone, Sally Perdue, Elizabeth Gracen, Carolyn Moffet, Monica Lewinsky, and others too numerous to list. And although I can’t confirm if the foreign-born among them all hold citizenship, one bets that few cast votes for his enabler this November.

Bill Clinton merely harassed, assaulted, and raped numerous women over the years. Donald Trump allegedly called a beauty pageant winner who misinterpreted her Miss Universe title as a license to eat it “Miss Piggy.”

Fat shamer! Unclean! Unclean!

The pot calling the kettle black. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. Before you look at the splinter in your neighbor’s eye, take out the log in your own eye. Choose your cliché. I’ll pick mine: The emperor has no clothes.

Bill Clinton certainly lacked garments, save for an undershirt, when he allegedly pointed to his pointing member, instructed Ms. Moffet to pleasure it, and, after his guest refused to follow instructions, encouraged her to that end by attempting to shove her face into his crotch. Of course, this offense against Ms. Moffet (and Miss Manners) hardly qualifies as a sin against feminism. When a “D” follows your name and you follow the party line on abortion, immunity follows.

Though Mrs. Clinton appears more sinned against than sinning in Mr. Clinton’s extracurricular and, at times, extralegal escapades, she repeatedly attacked the victims as liars and worse. Monday’s shamer of the fat-shamer **** -shamed, and did so when the victims acted like ladies instead ***** .

Mrs. Clinton called Ms. Flowers “some failed cabaret singer who doesn’t even have much of a résumé to fall back on,” once promising to “crucify her” on the witness stand if ever the chance to cross-examine arose. “We have to destroy her story,” she told White House aides of Paula Jones.After the case of Ms. Lewinsky hit the Drudge Report, she famously blamed the allegations on the “vast right-wing conspiracy.”

The Washington Post revisited this unsavory history in the wake of Monday’s debate charges against Trump. But the media’s abdication of their investigative duties regarding the powerful generally allows Hillary Clinton to hubristically lob such bombs against Mr. Trump about his behavior in the 1990s on the debate stage without fear of repercussions regarding her conduct in the 1990s.

Did Lester Holt sleep through the decade?

She got it wrong about Flowers, Jones, Lewinsky, and so many others. But she righteously feigns indignation because the proprietor of a beauty contest hired a trainer to help the winner shed the nearly 60 pounds that CNN back then reported that she had gained. Rather than publicly disparage Machado, Trump went after the press going after her. “A lot of you folks have weight problems,” he told journalists standing in front of him and Machado at a press conference in 1997. “I hate to tell you.”

They hated him telling them, too. Hell hath no fury like a Fourth Estate scorned.

A Bill Cosby quality colors the allegations against Bill Clinton. Contrary to the feminist mantra, a woman does occasionally lie about rape. But women? Multiple women accuse Bill Clinton of forcing himself upon them. The public can dismiss one “bimbo eruption.” But despite the former First Lady’s best efforts, scores of such sordid stories make it terribly difficult to brush them all under the rug.

On Monday night, the Donald did worst when he took Hillary’s bait. He didn’t here, and people who second guess him for taking the bait second guess him for refraining. He can’t win, only in this instance he does. Just because the obvious rejoinder to Mrs. Clinton’s broadside didn’t cross his lips does not mean it was not on the tip of everybody else’s tongue. In music as in rhetoric, the unheard note sometimes rings louder than those struck.

Donald Trump wisely, and uncharacteristically, held his tongue. He didn’t need to tell Americans what they already knew. The House of Representatives impeaching a president over perjuring himself in a sexual harassment case does not normally occur even once in a lifetime. So that occurred to Americans. One of his victims responding to his daughter’s defense of him forced voters to contemplate again putting such a crowd in the White House. “I was 35 when Bill Clinton raped me,” Juanita Broaddrick tweeted, “and Hillary tried to silence me. I am now 73. It never goes away.”

It never goes away. That holds true for the rapist as surely as it does for the victim. And what never goes away needn’t be said.

Scoring a debating point sometimes comes at the cost of losing a debate.
http://spectator.org/hillary-they-have-names/

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posted September 30, 2016 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gentlemen, give up the name calling, affairs of which Donald is dirty of too, puffing all around and get down to politics.

You are not winning anyone over to your side with the nasty puffing .

Unfortunately Hillary will be the next POTUS and you both can thank your candidate for her votes.

Yes it will be braggart, both clown feet in his mouth Donalds fault and his alone.

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posted September 30, 2016 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your vote for Hillary won't save her, Juni. Millions of deplorables are going to flood the ballot boxes in 39 days and counting.

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posted September 30, 2016 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Your vote for Hillary won't save her, Juni. Millions of deplorables are going to flood the ballot boxes in 39 days and counting."

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posted September 30, 2016 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Presidential Debates Admits Trump’s Mic Was Messed Up
09/30/2016

The Commission on Presidential Debates reported on Friday that there were in fact issues with Donald Trump’s microphone at the Debate Monday evening at Hofstra university in New York.

Following the debate, Trump told the press that they “gave me a defective mic. Did you notice that? My mic was defective within the room,” CNN reports. Trump posed the question: “Was that on purpose?”

While it may be too early to call it anything other than a technical malfunction, the Commission on Presidential Debates said “there were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.”

Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton responded to Trump’s claim Monday evening saying “anybody who complains about the microphone is not having a good night.”
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/30/presidential-debates-admits-trumps-mic-was-messed-up/

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posted September 30, 2016 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Gentlemen, give up the name calling, affairs of which Donald is dirty of too, puffing all around and get down to politics.

You are not winning anyone over to your side with the nasty puffing .

Unfortunately Hillary will be the next POTUS and you both can thank your candidate for her votes.

Yes it will be braggart, both clown feet in his mouth Donalds fault and his alone.


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posted September 30, 2016 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Trump twitters... again making a fool of his camp.

#poorkellyann

After watching the View yesterday and her interview, what the hell is Trump thinking to use Bills affairs against Clinton or hammering on Alicia`s lifestyle?


Oh, you mean the woman who threatened to kill a judge?

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posted October 01, 2016 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[b]Presidential Debates Admits Trump’s Mic Was Messed Up
09/30/2016

The Commission on Presidential Debates reported on Friday that there were in fact issues with Donald Trump’s microphone at the Debate Monday evening at Hofstra university in New York.

Following the debate, Trump told the press that they “gave me a defective mic. Did you notice that? My mic was defective within the room,” CNN reports. Trump posed the question: “Was that on purpose?”

While it may be too early to call it anything other than a technical malfunction, the Commission on Presidential Debates said “there were issues regarding Donald Trump’s audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall.”

Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton responded to Trump’s claim Monday evening saying “anybody who complains about the microphone is not having a good night.”
http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/30/presidential-debates-admits-trumps-mic-was-messed-up/ [/B]


Mics don't sniff, and breathe heavily. I heard it myself. I don't see what the big deal is.

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posted October 01, 2016 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem wasn't in the sound signal which went out over cable and broadcast network feeds.

The problem was in the sound signal going out in the auditorium to the live audience.

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posted October 01, 2016 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealsaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is a little suspicious that the mic was having technical issues but ultimately it's not a big deal. I would say the same thing if it were Clinton's mic. Play fair.

The mic may have just picked up extra sound being so close. I remember during the primaries it happened to Cruz. You could hear him when he would put his hand on the podium and hear his suit shuffle. I wouldn't have noticed if he wasn't hitting the podium so much lol.

I honestly didn't notice Trump's sniffing until I read about it the next day. People were just looking for things to ridicule him about and the sniffing was just a silly thing to point out. At least he didn't hold up debate by coughing for 20 minutes

This debate probably didn't change anyone's minds on the candidate they support, and probably didn't gain any undecided voters. It just wasn't that great of a debate. The questions were unfair, the moderator was barely there to moderate, both Trump and Clinton's comments were things we have already heard before.

Trump needs to go after Clinton with his policies. He needs to do what his supporters want and address the corrupt past she has, the things that the media isn't going to talk about, the events that her supporters shrug off because at least she's not Trump.

Trump needs to realize that it's a waste of time to be on the defensive. He needs to slam the viewers with facts, be confident in his stance, and point out Clinton's true colors.

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posted October 01, 2016 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howard Dean under fire for alleging Trump cocaine use at debate
Tom Kludt, CNN
Wed September 28, 2016

Story highlights
Howard Dean tweeted during the debate, "Notice Trump sniffing all the time. Coke user?"
His comments have drawn rebuke from within his own Democratic party

(CNN) — Howard Dean claimed, with no evidence, that Donald Trump's sniffling at the debate could be due to cocaine use -- a comment that's being ripped as way out of bounds, even by those in his own party.

The former Vermont governor and former chairman of the Democratic National Committee tweeted during Monday night's first presidential debate, "Notice Trump sniffing all the time. Coke user?"
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/politics/howard-dean-donald-trump-cocaine/


Hahaha, this from the airhead moron who destroyed his political career with a primal scream!

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posted October 01, 2016 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Dean was a dozzie all right.

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posted October 01, 2016 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Dean was a dozzie all right"

Still Is, Is, Is a dozzie juni!

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posted October 01, 2016 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by etherealsaturn:
It is a little suspicious that the mic was having technical issues but ultimately it's not a big deal. I would say the same thing if it were Clinton's mic. Play fair.

The mic may have just picked up extra sound being so close. I remember during the primaries it happened to Cruz. You could hear him when he would put his hand on the podium and hear his suit shuffle. I wouldn't have noticed if he wasn't hitting the podium so much lol.

I honestly didn't notice Trump's sniffing until I read about it the next day. People were just looking for things to ridicule him about and the sniffing was just a silly thing to point out. At least he didn't hold up debate by coughing for 20 minutes

This debate probably didn't change anyone's minds on the candidate they support, and probably didn't gain any undecided voters. It just wasn't that great of a debate. The questions were unfair, the moderator was barely there to moderate, both Trump and Clinton's comments were things we have already heard before.

Trump needs to go after Clinton with his policies. He needs to do what his supporters want and address the corrupt past she has, the things that the media isn't going to talk about, the events that her supporters shrug off because at least she's not Trump.

Trump needs to realize that it's a waste of time to be on the defensive. He needs to slam the viewers with facts, be confident in his stance, and point out Clinton's true colors.


I was listening on my phone, with headphones. Excellent sound quality. (The BEST. )

I thought he had a cold. I wasn't looking for anything. The sniffing was clear, as was his sounding like he was trying to catch his breath.

I don't see what the big deal is, unless he's afraid of people deciding that he's half dead, the way they were with Clinton. All of the faux concern, and she was diagnosed with pneumonia later on in the week. But, sure, let's shame someone for coughing.

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