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juniperb
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posted October 08, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does Trumps recent video harm the party or just Trump?

I think, if the prominent Republicans don`t withdraw their support, this is the middle of the end for them.

Ryan, McConnel,Cathy McMorris Rodgers
and RNC Chair Priebus (among the many) spoke out against the behavior. Yet, it isn`t enough. They need to withdraw support to keep pubbys alive.

Other Republicans will take the heat in their elections and if they don`t disavow, winning isn`t favorable.


IMO, saying old Bill did it isn`t going to be the magic wand they are looking for.

How do they keep their party intact now?


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posted October 08, 2016 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just like every Dem should pull support for Hillary, because her husband did multiple things with multiple women? The Republicans are doing just fine and will keep the House and Senate, as well as take the white house. It will blow over. We should be more concerned over Hillary's crimes than Trump's words from over a decade ago.

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posted October 08, 2016 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So it is Hillarys` fauly Bill was a cheat? Seriously, that`s deflection and moot.

Can you adress how the republican party is reacting??

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posted October 08, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It went way beyond cheating. It was sexual assault many times over. And yes, Hillary is to blame when she defended Bill's disgusting actions and viciously attacked and threatened the victims, which effectively functioned as a full and complete Hillary endorsement of sexual assault.

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posted October 08, 2016 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you adress how the republican party is reacting??

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posted October 08, 2016 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They are doing what they have to do. But in the end, it won't be "I'm With Her." It will be "Anyone But Her." They will see the bigger picture.

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posted October 08, 2016 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing that will be in ashes is this country--if the Clintons get in the white house again.

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posted October 08, 2016 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sexual assault many times over? Um, no.

There is one person who has alleged that Bill Clinton raped her ca 1978, and one who alleged sexual harrassment ca. 1993. But there are troubling inconsistencies in both women's stories.

There is also at least one allegation that Donald Trump raped a teenager. And multiple allegations of sexual harrassment.

I don't know if any of them are true. Neither do you. But a "*** for tat" Bill did it, no the Donald did it, is useless.

What is clearly true is that both men had extramarital affairs and lied about them.

What is also clearly true is that Donald Trump thinks grabbing a woman's p.... is funny. And that it's okay to call his own daughter a POA. The list of his lewd, lascivious, cruel and demeaning statements about women goes on and on. Those aren't allegations that may or may not be true; they are verifiable facts.

Please direct me to one verifiable audio or videotape of Bill Clinton talking about women in that manner. If you can do so, I'd be happy to also call Bill Clinton a vile pig.

But then we get back to the fact that Bill Clinton is not running for President.

Blaming Hillary Clinton for her husband's sexual proclivities is not only ridiculous, it's sexist and demeaning to women.

BUT TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:

I think the idea that the Republican Party is washed up because of Donald Trump is hogwash. They are clearly in control in Congress, and likely to remain so. They are also in control in many state legislatures and governor's offices.

Moderate Republicans, however, are a dying breed at all levels.

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posted October 09, 2016 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
So it is Hillarys` fauly Bill was a cheat? Seriously, that`s deflection and moot.

Can you adress how the republican party is reacting??


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posted October 09, 2016 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Sexual assault many times over? Um, no.

There is one person who has alleged that Bill Clinton raped her ca 1978, and one who alleged sexual harrassment ca. 1993. But there are troubling inconsistencies in both women's stories.

There is also at least one allegation that Donald Trump raped a teenager. And multiple allegations of sexual harrassment.

I don't know if any of them are true. Neither do you. But a "*** for tat" Bill did it, no the Donald did it, is useless.

What is clearly true is that both men had extramarital affairs and lied about them.

What is also clearly true is that Donald Trump thinks grabbing a woman's p.... is funny. And that it's okay to call his own daughter a POA. The list of his lewd, lascivious, cruel and demeaning statements about women goes on and on. Those aren't allegations that may or may not be true; they are verifiable facts.

Please direct me to one verifiable audio or videotape of Bill Clinton talking about women in that manner. If you can do so, I'd be happy to also call Bill Clinton a vile pig.

But then we get back to the fact that Bill Clinton is not running for President.

Blaming Hillary Clinton for her husband's sexual proclivities is not only ridiculous, it's sexist and demeaning to women.

BUT TO THE ORIGINAL QUESTION:

I think the idea that the Republican Party is washed up because of Donald Trump is hogwash. They are clearly in control in Congress, and likely to remain so. They are also in control in many state legislatures and governor's offices.

Moderate Republicans, however, are a dying breed at all levels.


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posted October 09, 2016 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary is an enabler of Bill. That makes her complicit. And he will be given a position of high office in her administration and living in the white house once again.

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posted October 09, 2016 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hillary is an enabler of Bill. That makes her complicit. And he will be given a position of high office in her administration and living in the white house once again.

By that line of reasoning, Ivanka and Melania are enablers as well, yes?.

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posted October 09, 2016 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I think, if the prominent Republicans don`t withdraw their support, this is the middle of the end for them."

It's already THE END...FINIS for most of those Globalist clowns posing as Republicans.

They better pick their spots (carefully) from which to pitch their little hissy fits. Paul Ryan got booed yesterday in Wisconsin, then chants of TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! broke out in his audience. Let's see these a$$clowns get elected or reelected without the base of the Republican party.

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posted October 09, 2016 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Decade Ago Donald Trump Said Something Crude – Robert and Rebekah Mercer Respond…
October 8, 2016
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Rebekah and Robert Mercer reply:

…“If Mr. Trump had told Billy Bush, whoever that is, earlier this year that he was for open borders, open trade, and executive actions in pursuit of gun control, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him.

If he had admitted to Mr. Bush that he had profited privately by allowing the sale to Russia of 20% of US uranium deposits or that he had amassed his personal fortune not by hard work in the private sector but by selling favors to foreigners on the American taxpayers’ dime, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him.

If he had argued that he needed both a public and a private position on issues facing the American public, we would certainly be rethinking our support for him. And finally if Trump had serially terrorized and silenced the victims of violent sexual assault whom he feared could damage his political career, we would most definitely be rethinking our support for him.
Donald Trump’s uncensored comments, both old and new, have been echoed and dissected in the media repeatedly in an effort to kindle among his supporters a conflagration of outrage commensurate with the media’s own faux outrage.

Can anyone really be surprised that Mr. Trump could have said to Mr. Bush such things as he has already admitted saying? No. We are completely indifferent to Mr. Trump’s locker room braggadocio.

The same media that resolutely looked away when the most powerful man in the world, a sitting U.S. president with multiple violent sexual assaults to his credit, snared an impressionable young intern in his web and ruined her life, now expects us to gasp with revulsion at Mr. Trump’s irreverent comments.

America is finally fed up and disgusted with its political elite. Trump is channeling this disgust and those among the political elite who quake before the boombox of media blather do not appreciate the apocalyptic choice that America faces on November 8th.

We have a country to save and there is only one person who can save it. We, and Americans across the country and around the world, stand steadfastly behind Donald J. Trump”….
http://theconservativetreehouse.co m/2016/10/08/a-decade-ago-donald-trump-said-something-crude-robert-and-rebekah-mercer-respond/#more-122880

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posted October 09, 2016 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hillary is an enabler of Bill. That makes her complicit. And he will be given a position of high office in her administration and living in the white house once again.

This is complete and total BS.

But let's assume it's true. It's still irrelevant.

Just admit it: You're fine with a known sexual predator, serial philanderer, and alleged rapist named Donald Trump living in the White House and holding the highest office in the land.

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posted October 09, 2016 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Time now to put names to your allegation that Trump raped or sexually assaulted women.

Go for it.

On the other hand, I can put names to the factual historical record that Kommander Korruption, Bill Clinton, raped and/or sexually assaulted many women, even when he was President. Their names are in the factual records.

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posted October 09, 2016 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ivana Trump and Jane Doe. Jane Doe was 13 when she was allegedly raped by Donald Trump; you can Google and find the actual legal filing since he's currently being sued for this alleged act.

But can you read? Or do you not know the definition of the word "allegation?"

The rape allegations against both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are, well, allegations.

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posted October 09, 2016 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:

Just admit it: You're fine with a known sexual predator, serial philanderer, and alleged rapist named Donald Trump living in the White House and holding the highest office in the land.

Or, put another way:

Just admit it. You're fine with someone being President who has a long history of making lewd, lascivious, sexist, derogatory and vile statements about women including laughing about how "You can just grab them by their p...."

Hint: That's sexual predation. Or sexual assault. Take your pick.


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posted October 09, 2016 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew you were going to say...Ivana Trump.

She said Trump...her husband raped her. She said that in the heat of a divorce. Later, she said she didn't mean a PHYSICAL RAPE. She endorses Donald Trump for President.

As for your other allegation, that's as smelly as a week old fish carcass..without the benefit of refrigeration. It's a ginned up allegation which has already been exploded.

Try, try, try again!

Hillary The Corrupt is a criminal who has disqualified herself from holding any public office.

Hillary The Corrupt is a "Whoever"

Title 18. Section 2071

“(a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.”

Hillary Rodham Clinton:

“You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. You have the right to an attorney. If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be provided for you. Do you understand the rights I have just read to you? With these rights in mind, do you wish to speak to me?”

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posted October 09, 2016 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah423:

But can you read? Or do you not know the definition of the word "allegation?"

The rape allegations against both Donald Trump and Bill Clinton are, well, allegations.


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Originally posted by Delilah423:
Or, put another way:

Just admit it. You're fine with someone being President who has a long history of making lewd, lascivious, sexist, derogatory and vile statements about women including laughing about how "You can just grab them by their p...."

Hint: That's sexual predation. Or sexual assault. Take your pick.



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posted October 09, 2016 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Remember that odd story that some people initially freaked out about where the random person walked into a courthouse in California and filed a rape allegation against Donald Trump in April, and somehow the media became almost instantly aware of it?

The entire set-up/law suit was really sketchy. The person who filed claimed they didn’t have a lawyer; they claimed they didn’t have any money; the address given did not match the name, the phone number was disconnected, and the name given didn’t show up on any local listing…. and that’s only the beginning of the odd stuff.

( Via Daily Mail ) Donald Trump’s attorney told DailyMail.com on Friday that a lawsuit claiming Trump raped a 13-year-old girl at billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s notorious ‘sex parties’ appears to be a hoax.

Trump had already ‘categorically’ denied the claims but attorney Alan Garten’s statement signals that the Trump campaign is eager to swat down the allegation before it gains any more traction.

‘The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, more likely, are politically motivated,’ Garten told DailyMail.com in a statement. ‘To be clear, there is absolutely no merit to these claims and, based on our investigation, no evidence that the person who has made these allegations actually exists.’

In a followup telephone interview, Garten cited a litany of specific indications that the lawsuit is a hoax perpetrated by ‘someone with some level of legal background.’

The address listed on the lawsuit exists, he said, but ‘there is no indication or record that that person’ named as the lawsuit plaintiff ‘ever resided there. So we believe it is a false address.’

He also said the phone number listed on the lawsuit papers rings to voicemail and publicly available records tie it to another person.

‘There is no record that the phone number is tied to the person who has made these allegations,’ he said.

‘We believe that this person does not exist.’

The suit details claims made by a woman named as ‘Katie Johnson,’ with a home address named as what turned out to be an empty, foreclosed property at ‘Twentynine Palms’ in California.

Neighbors told reporters that the home has been empty since the death of its owner, David Stacey, last October. The property went into default soon after and on April 11 – just 15 days before the lawsuit was filed – the bank officially foreclosed. (read more)

After a few days the entire story just disappeared.

Then, in June 2016 Jezebel reported on the odd happenings behind the scenes. Someone was desperately trying to seed the media with the story:

JUNE 16, Katie Johnson – In recent weeks, several national press outlets have retailed a set of very unflattering allegations about Donald Trump—namely, that he raped a 13-year-old at a 1994 orgy hosted by notorious celebrity sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

What no one’s reported on yet is the fact that the recent round of coverage is the culmination of an almost year-long campaign to quietly push these allegations into the public discussion, and maybe make some money in the process.

The stories are based on lawsuits filed by Trump’s accuser against him and Epstein. News organizations on the right and left have started poking at those claims, gingerly and skeptically: The allegations are beyond the pale, even for Trump, and there’s little sourcing for them beyond the lawsuit itself.

On August 5 of last year, a Gawker Media employee received an unsolicited voicemail tip from someone identifying themselves as Al Taylor, “the PR person for the Erotic Heritage Museum in Las Vegas.” Taylor requested that someone from Gawker return his call because, he said, “I’ve got some good info on Donald Trump for you, it might be very interesting for your site.” In addition to managing public relations for a museum “designed to preserve wonders of the erotic imagination,” Taylor is a former producer for the syndicated tabloid news show Inside Edition.

A Gawker.com reporter returned the call, and the “info” that Taylor claimed to have was explosive. Over the next few months, the Gawker reporter and Taylor, along with another tabloid producer named Mike Smith and videographer Jonathann Launer, engaged in a series of telephone and email conversations about Trump. (read more)

Yesterday, the story surfaced again, only this time it is attached to a federal judge in New York, Ronnie Abrams (below left), who is the slightly younger sister of an ABC legal journalist Dan Abrams (below right). Apparently the lawsuit was refiled in New York, the names were changed around and Judge Ronnie Abrams has ordered a hearing:

ronnie-abramsdan-abrams( Via Fusion ) Just before the Washington Post published video showing Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump advocating for sexual assault against women, a federal judge in New York ordered a December hearing in a lawsuit claiming that Trump raped multiple underage girls who were procured for Trump by the infamous “billionaire pedophile” Jeffrey Epstein.

The lawsuit, which identifies Trump’s victims solely as “Jane Doe,” “Maria Doe”—who allegedly disappeared after protesting her treatment at Trump’s hands—was refiled in New York last week after being dropped in California, and added a new witness, “Joan Doe,” who confirmed Jane’s account. A fourth woman, “Tiffany Doe,” who is present in both suits, confirmed the accounts as well. The hearing is set for December.

The lawsuit, which accuses Trump of raping Jane multiple times at parties hosted by Epstein and seeks $75,000 in damages, is itself the subject of controversy. As Jezebel’s Anna Merlan reported earlier this year, the suit was originally filed in California district court by a Katie Johnson last year and was pushed by multiple (male) PR professionals and lawyers who denied her the ability to speak to Johnson even while creepily imploring her to cover the lawsuit.

When it was refiled in New York in June, without the name Katie Johnson attached, several claims from the original lawsuit were gone, including that Trump had thrown money at his victim and told her to get an abortion and that Trump had referred to Epstein as a “Jew ******* .” Also gone: Johnson’s request for $100 million in damages. (Trump has denied all charges; Epstein is a convicted pedophile who also partied quite a lot with Bill Clinton.)

ronnie-abrams Shady as the people behind the lawsuit might be, federal judge Ronnie Abrams decided there is enough to move forward with the case, and has ordered both sides to provide information that will help her decide whether to move the suit along to a trial or a settlement procedure. (read more)

So a federal judge who is the sister of an ABC analyst just happens to grant some status to a severely sketchy lawsuit which has been peddled to the media for a year, filed in California, subsequently dropped and refiled in New York after contact with Gawker journalist(s) and legal teams…. ????

Tell me that doesn’t absolutely reek of Team Clinton.

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posted October 09, 2016 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Tell me that doesn’t absolutely reek of Team Clinton


It reeks of Trump and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

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posted October 09, 2016 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bill and Epstein did a lot of flying around with a lot of underage girls. You do the math.

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posted October 09, 2016 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah423     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amazing. Just amazing.

Ignore. Deflect. Blame someone or something else that has no relevance whatsoever to the topic at hand.

Wow.

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posted October 09, 2016 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's relevant is that Bill Clinton is a rapist and serial sexual assaulter of women and Hillary is his enabler and defender who trash talks women for being raped and sexually assaulted by her husband.

While Trump trash talked women with locker room BS, Bill Clinton raped and sexually assaulted women. That's what's relevant.

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