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juniperb
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posted November 05, 2016 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hillary went to MI--a blue state that hasn't voted Republican since 1988!

Where in the heck do you get your news from

Mitt won MI electoral vote of 16 in 2012.

Gov. Rick Snyder is a second term republican Gov of MI

False news is no news.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/election-watch-romney-wins-texas-obama-ny-mi-023421438--election.html

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posted November 05, 2016 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey wait! This wasn't supposed to happen.

COLORADO: TIED http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-colorado-new-poll-shows/

MICHIGAN: TIED http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/04/exclusive-poll-trump-clinton-tied-in-michigan/

NEW HAMPSHIRE: TIED

NEVADA: TIED http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/nvelection-8-news-now-poll-finds-clinton-trump-races-tied

PENNSYLVANIA: TIED http://harperpolling.com/polls/pennsylvania-statewide-poll--11-2-3#PresidentTIE

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posted November 05, 2016 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tap, Tap... I`m still waiting for Randall`s news source.

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posted November 05, 2016 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Are you posting that to be funny or to get under Clinton supporters skins?.. I think it is funny because,well it`s funny I didn`t bother to check your other states listed.
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Hey wait! This wasn't supposed to happen.

[b]COLORADO: TIED http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/02/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-in-co lorado-new-poll-shows/

MICHIGAN: TIED http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/04/exclusive-poll-trump-clinton-tied-in-michigan/

NEW HAMPSHIRE: TIED

NEVADA: TIED http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/nvelection-8-news-now-poll-finds-clinton-trump-races- tied

PENNSYLVANIA: TIED http://harperpolling.com/polls/pennsylvania-statewide-poll--11-2-3#PresidentTIE [/B]


Michigan: Trump vs. Clinton Detroit Free Press
Clinton 42, Trump 38,

Clinton +4

Michigan: Trump vs. Clinton . PPP (D) Clinton 46, Trump 41,

Clinton +5
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/

Colorado: Trump vs. ClintonStein PPP (D) Clinton 48, Trump 43,

Clinton +5

Colorado: Trump vs. Clinton Keating Research (D) Clinton 43, Trump 38,

Clinton +5


Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Gravis Clinton 47, Trump 45,

Clinton +2

Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Clinton Morning Call Clinton 44, Trump 40,

Clinton +4
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/

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posted November 05, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for the fun of it

RCP Average 10/28 - 11/4 -- -- 46.6 44.9
Clinton +1.7

FOX NewsFOX News 11/1 - 11/3 1107 LV 3.0 46 45
Clinton +1

McClatchy/MaristMcClatchy 11/1 - 11/3 940 LV 3.2 46 44
Clinton +2

IBD/TIPP TrackingIBD/TIPP Tracking 11/1 - 11/4 804 LV 3.5 46 43
Clinton +3

LA Times/USC TrackingLA Times 10/29 - 11/4 2987 LV 4.5 43 48
Trump +5

Reuters/IpsosReuters 10/31 - 11/4 2244 LV 2.2 44 40
Clinton +4

ABC/Wash Post TrackingABC/WP Tracking 10/31 - 11/3 1419 LV 3.0 49 45
Clinton +4

Economist/YouGovEconomist 10/30 - 11/1 1233 LV 3.2 48 45
Clinton +3

GravisGravis 10/31 - 10/31 5360 RV 1.3 50 50
Tie

CBS News/NY TimesCBS/NYT 10/28 - 11/1 1333 LV 3.0 47 44
Clinton +3


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_electio n_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

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posted November 05, 2016 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It wasn't the source so much as the messenger. I was half asleep and trying to multi-task as best I could.

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posted November 05, 2016 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's an interesting fact: There's only been one Republican who won Ohio and didn't win the presidency--Nixon in 1960. Trump is expected to take Ohio. He just needs FL and NC.

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posted November 05, 2016 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Real Clear Politics is an "Average" of polls.

Which means it only takes 1 or 2 really screwed up polls to skew the "Average" out of shape.

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posted November 06, 2016 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Real Clear Politics is an "Average" of polls.

Which means it only takes 1 or 2 really screwed up polls to skew the "Average" out of shape.


and the daily caller is accurate?

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posted November 06, 2016 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It wasn't the source so much as the messenger. I was half asleep and trying to multi-task as best I could.

Wake up, the election is Tuesday

Your messenger needs a new news source.

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posted November 07, 2016 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The race is a now a dead heat, but the silent Trump voters haven't been figured into the equation.

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posted November 07, 2016 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, that wasn't a "Daily Caller" poll.

That was a "Strategic National Poll".

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posted November 07, 2016 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary leading 46-42 as of now.

Record turnout according to CNN in the Early Polls, especially by Hispanic and African American Voters.

Was the FBI's "open-close a dead case", making a mockery of a World Class Investigative Agency, a clever tactic to scare more Anti-Trump voters into rushing to the Ballot Booths?

Or was it just Hillary's luck that the FBI decided they had seen enough of the 650,000 emails?

Surely the election is going down to the wire. The final percentages could be 44.75 Hillary and 44.25 Trump for all we know.

Has the Donald got one more trick, one more Trump Card in the next 12 hours ?

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posted November 07, 2016 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt, at this late stage, there are any more cards to play.

This is how one article put election eve:

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It appears the effects of the debates and that recording (if it had any influence on voter preference) have worn off and Trump has gained support among reliably Republican voters. This shows up in the RCP average -- Clinton had about 45 percent of the vote two weeks ago and her standing now is virtually unchanged. Trump, on the other hand, was at 39.9 percent in the RCP average two weeks ago, but he now sits at 42.7 percent in the four-way race. No major party presidential candidate in 2012, 2008 or 2004 improved their national standing by more than two points in the two weeks prior to the Monday before Election Day, yet Trump has improved his polling by about three points in that interval.

Nonetheless, his short-term trend may not be significant enough.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/11/07/poll_position_where_clinton_trump_stand_on_election_eve_132270.html


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posted November 07, 2016 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solid States:

Clinton/Kaine (115)

Massachusetts (11) New York (29)
California (55) District Of Columbia (3)
Hawaii (4) Maryland (10)
Vermont (3)

Trump/Pence (63)

Louisiana (8) Mississippi (6)
Alabama (9) Arkansas (6)
Kentucky (8) Idaho (4)
Nebraska (4) North Dakota (3)
Oklahoma (7) West Virginia (5)
Wyoming (3)

The rest is a toss up and makes it all the more fun

*realclearpolitics

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posted November 07, 2016 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When was that published? Trump definitely has Texas. How could they have left that off? And he has Ohio, Georgia, and Iowa. Probably others.

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posted November 07, 2016 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you know that Vererans Homes send in absentee ballots for dementia and alzimers residents - how can they have a legal right to vote without even having a legal right to sign their own names ????

More ways our voting system is corrupt.

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posted November 07, 2016 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry that was a little off topic, but it does concern voting, and there's no way a person who has all their decision making abilities taken away from them can decide which individual to vote for. Do you think this is fair?

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posted November 07, 2016 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
November, Trump has made up ground in several key battleground states that he cannot lose if he hopes to win: Ohio, Florida and North Carolina on the East Coast; Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado in the West. According to the average of polls provided by FiveThirtyEight, Trump has retaken his earlier lead in Ohio, where he has a 66% of winning – an exact reversal of the situation he was in before Comey announced he was reopening the investigation into Clinton's emails. The New York Times Upshot sees the race tied in Ohio and Clinton with small lead in Florida and North Carolina.

Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight model shows Trump leading again in North Carolina and Florida.

The race in Arizona and Nevada has also tipped to Trump's column according to FiveThirtyEight, with Clinton at a 25% chance of taking the Grand Canyon state and Trump having a 74.3% chance of winning. In Nevada, FiveThirtyEight now gives Trump even odds. The Upshot gives Trump a three point lead in Arizona and Clinton a two point lead in Nevada. The question in those states is how well each campaign can turn out its voters: white men for Trump and Hispanics – who may be voting for the first time – for Clinton.

The New York Times reported on November 5th that a surge in early voting by Hispanics in contested states like Florida, New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona had either bolstered Clinton's lead in those states or had narrowed Trump's lead. This was good news for the Clinton campaign, which has seen less enthusiasm among black voters than in the last two presidential elections. Without a large turnout of voters in demographic blocks favorable to Democrats, Clinton's chance of winning diminishes dramatically.

One interesting possibility, underscored by the Financial Times's poll tracker, is an electoral college tie, a scenario that we examine in What Happens If The Election Is a Tie? According to Nate Silver, "Clinton would probably lose the Electoral College in the event of a very close national popular vote," though FiveThirtyEight gives a less than one percent chance of such an outcome.
http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/111615/current-probabilities-donald-trump-president.asp

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posted November 07, 2016 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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When was that published? Trump definitely has Texas. How could they have left that off? And he has Ohio, Georgia, and Iowa. Probably others.

He doesn't have Ohio.

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Originally posted by PlutoSurvivor:
Sorry that was a little off topic, but it does concern voting, and there's no way a person who has all their decision making abilities taken away from them can decide which individual to vote for. Do you think this is fair?

I knew that was a dig from you, in June, in a different thread. Different forum.

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posted November 07, 2016 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump will win Ohio, along with Florida and North Carolina, and he will be our next President. Trump will also win a couple of surprise states. The pendulum will swing just like it always has in modern history after 8 years of one-party dominance in the white house.

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posted November 07, 2016 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Trump will win Ohio, along with Florida and North Carolina, and he will be our next President. Trump will also win a couple of surprise states. The pendulum will swing just like it always has in modern history after 8 years of one-party dominance in the white house.

When this does not happen, I promise to behave like a lady and not rub your words in your face

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posted November 07, 2016 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall, this link shows the date and current data re electoral votes.
Texas is on the "likely" list along with MO and IN.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_elections_electora l_college_map.html

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posted November 08, 2016 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Romney didn't win MI in 2012. Obama clobbered him there. As I said, MI has voted Democrat since 1988: http://www.270towin.com/states/Michigan

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posted November 08, 2016 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The race is a now a dead heat, but the silent Trump voters haven't been figured into the equation.

Neither have the silent Hillary supporters.

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