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posted February 23, 2017 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ        Reply w/Quote
JW Wrote
<<Just so you know, the cost of providing services to illegal aliens in the United States is estimated at almost $160 BILLION every single YEAR.>>

Illegal Aliens are not eligible for any Official Freebies. Hence 0 dollars is the cost of providing them services, unless you are calculating the cost of water they drink.

In which case, one cannot ignore the approximately 800 billion dollars of revenue they add to the US GDP. 500 billion is savings in wages to their US Employers. 300 billion is approximately what they spend buying from US Citizens.

Smartest thing to do is to make them all legal [who do not have dangerous criminal records] and enjoy the GDP Boost. Create a new category of worker permit wherein they cannot vote nor take any Freebie from the US Taxpayer.

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posted February 23, 2017 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
You are entirely mistaken if you believe illegal aliens are not using welfare services in the United States. In addition, about 25% of prison inmates in some states are illegal aliens...at about $70K a pop...per year. You can also load the cost of ICE and Border Patrol and their vehicles, offices and gear into the mix...along with the costs of prosecution to apprehend, try and convict criminal illegal aliens. Now, add in costs of education at about $13,000 per illegal alien child...per year and then abandon all pretense that illegal aliens..from all nations are paying their own way in America. In fact, $160 BILLION per year may be underestimating the cost to American taxpayers for the illegal alien invasion of America.

Let's not forget, these illegal aliens are the responsibility of their nations of origin.

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posted February 23, 2017 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
I know why leftist loons love fake news. Fake news validates their psychotic delusions.

February 23, 2017
How to Tell if News Is Really News
Alicia Colon

Media approval ratings are at an all time low and the public is routinely confronted by what ultimately turns out to be ‘faux’ news. But this is not a surprise because we have been aware of this for some time. In fact, it all started with Watergate. Although I was in London in 1972 and never had a chance to vote against Richard Nixon, the Watergate scandal was all over the press in Europe so I didn’t miss a bit of the sordid details. For the first time ever, however, a major news story made a big deal of the reporters behind it. The media became the star and even had a major film applauding their work sinking Nixon. All the President’s Men was a film celebrating the two Washington Post reporters, Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, who then became millionaire authors.

What worried me then about Watergate was the fact that the new powerful media was demanding that all government secrets should be revealed to the public. I felt this was unwise, and I still do. Since we were still in the middle of the war in Vietnam, such disclosures would be available to our enemy. We, the people, do not really want to know everything about the government as long as they are looking out for our security.

As far back as 2003, I was warning journalists that they had to get their integrity back or the Fourth Estate was in big trouble. I wrote:

"’At Syms, an educated consumer is our best customer.’ That's the slogan of the Manhattan clothier but followers of current national events should not have to rely on their own efforts to get at the truth. That is supposed to be the duty of journalists but sadly, that is no longer the case. To accurately decipher current events and their importance, readers have to educate themselves rather than rely on certain news sources. Opinions that used to be restricted to the editorial pages now cloud news articles and not only are readers recognizing that fact, they are starting to rebel.”

Back then, BDS, or Bush derangement syndrome was in full bloom and now TDS or Trump derangement syndrome is fully behind the ‘fake news’ engulfing the mainstream media sources. If individuals only get their news from the mainstream media, they assume that the Trump administration is in disarray and chaotic. Trump supporters know that this focus on the negative is emanating from faux news reports. Recently, an article by John Nolte in the Daily Wire, listed how the MSM was caught telling 40 lies. How is the average American supposed to weed out the truth? Unless one has access to the Internet and certain new cable television stations one will be inundated with misinformation.

I routinely search sites like lucianne.com and the Drudge report to read the articles posted from all sources. Invariably, news reported by The New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, New York Daily News, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, USA Today, Reuters, Associated Press, AOL, New York Magazine, The New Yorker, Vanity Fair, Politico and the Daily Beast will be negative and spin events to a particular narrative rather than the truth. Even William Buckley’s revered National Review became a #NeverTrump conclave during the 2016 campaign and still has not had its conservative reputation completely restored.

There are very few print newspapers left in the New York and California areas that are considered conservative or at least impartial. The New York Post was one of only a few that endorsed Donald Trump for president. The New York Sun, where I was once a columnist, was a beacon that tried to thwart the NYT left wing agenda, but shut down its print version in 2008. It is still available online and continues its ethical journalism and is worth a look-see. The Wall Street Journal is a mishmash of reporting ranging from impartial to biased depending on the writer.

As for television, I treat all the news from the alphabet networks as suspect. While I do at times watch Fox News, not all of it is fair and balanced, especially during Sheppard Smith and Chris Wallace’s airtime. Bill O’Reilly is as narcissistic as Obama is since every story ends up being about Bill. I once appeared on Fox and Friends and was treated much more fairly by Steve Doocy than I was on ABC’s Good Morning America by a female anchor whose name escapes me. Neal Cavuto, Tucker Carlson, Stuart Varney are watchable and fair. CNN, MSNBC are not. For most covered public events, one can’t beat C-Span because there are no anchors to spin what you’re watching.

There are also two new networks presenting a more conservative viewpoint. One America News (OAN) is mostly straight news reports from around the world supported by videos. Newsmax is another generally conservative site with at least three call-in shows hosted by Boston Herald columnist Howie Carr, Joe, ‘Pags’ Pagliarulo and Steve Malzberg. Former Rep. J.D. Haworth also hosts the network’s “America Forum” segment.

Where, oh where to learn the truth about current events and politics? It’s not easy especially if one is not computer literate enough to surf the Net. The good news is that children are probably more savvy than adults so grab a kid and ask for help.

During the past few years, I’ve found that the fake news and lies told by the mainstream media were debunked by the website conservativetreehouse.com and its intrepid editor Sundance. When all those alleged police shootings of unarmed black men were being hyped by the MSM, this site dug deeper and provided links and videos that proved that in most cases the shootings were justified and the ‘victims’ were not always innocent.

Despite heavy criticism, Andrew Breitbart’s brainchild Breitbart.com is a good, reliable source for the truth. I ought to know since I was on board at its inception and news gathering was strictly monitored for veracity. I had to provide documentation for all my columns in the form of videos or previously published data.

PJMedia.com has great columnists and is also quite picky about proving content. My former editor at the NY Sun, Michael Walsh, is a kind but stern master overseeing the content.

Several of the following sites have proven to be unbiased and factual and a worth a look-see.:

DailyCaller.com; AmericanThinker.com; theFederalist.com; DailySignal.com; CanadaFreePress.com; Newsbusters.com.

There may be more I might have neglected to list and I apologize but these are the ones I use most frequently to get the real story. It is a sad fact that the foreign press is more apt to report facts than our own media. Consider the Sweden brouhaha that resulted when the MSM accused Trump of overblowing the crime taking over that country. CNN and other fake, fake news shows had their guests mocking the president. Meanwhile RT, the Russian news agency shows dramatic videos of the Swedish riots, putting the MSM to shame. RT and other overseas news sources, e.g., Daily Mail (UK), are available to view on Lucianne.com.

Wake up, America! You’re being had. Start asking the right questions. How did the Democrats come up with that 40,000,000 uninsured Americans to pass Obamacare? When CNN’s Don Lemon asks his panel about how much the Trump family’s secret service is costing taxpayers, ask him where’s his research and why didn’t he question that about Michele Obama’s huge entourage when she traveled? We need to hold these sycophants masquerading as journalists’ feet to the fire.

We’re mad as hell and that’s why we voted for Trump.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/02/how_to_tell_if_news_is_really_news.html

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Catalina
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posted February 24, 2017 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Lol. If you seriously think the "alternative" media is a) not full of fake news and b) that Breitbart is the same as it was when Breitbart started it... solly 4 ewe.

How telling that there is no mention of Obama,Derangement Syndrome or its architects now ensconced in the,WH and govt.

Just because a conservative journalist calls "liberals" liars..doesn't make it so.

People tend not to be totally convinced by either conservatives or liberals.. one day that will be recognized and fair journalism will be reborn


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posted February 24, 2017 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
"Just because a conservative journalist calls "liberals" liars..doesn't make it so."

You're wrong on at least 2 counts.

First, liberals aren't included in the lunatic progressive left.

Second, the lunatic progressive left have already proved they're liars of the first rank.

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posted February 25, 2017 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Lol, yep the fake stories just keep on running

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/02/24/trump-just-lied-paris-smear-refugees-paris-mayors-response-priceless/

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posted February 26, 2017 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
According to Gallup, 90% of Republicans, 70% of Independents, and half of Democrats don't trust the press.

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posted February 26, 2017 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
"According to Gallup, 90% of Republicans, 70% of Independents, and half of Democrats don't trust the press."

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Catalina
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posted February 26, 2017 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
The propaganda war waged by Bannon, funded by one of Trumps main funders and background campaigners...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/26/robert-mercer-breitbart-war-on-media-steve-bannon-donald-trump-nigel-farage?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

One piece of fake news/propaganda that many believe to this day..that Trump "did it himself" unlike Clinton who had big money at her back.. cultivates the "popular hero" image but neglects to point out the marketing savvy that hoodwinked a lot of people who are now wondering what they did!

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posted March 01, 2017 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
The provenance of the whole fake news lark?

I will be charitable and say

The Emperor has been being hoodwinked (handled) by his tailors 😉 who insist that those who don't see how fine his clothes are are traitors and liars.
http://t.freespeech.org/video/trump-staff-admits-planting-fake-news-counter-twitter-meltdowns

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posted March 01, 2017 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Another fake news story. It claims that the minority president is responsible for the national debt reduction this month.. it also quotes himself claiming the same. Most people can see the fakeness due to his having had NOTHING to do with budget so far

In Obamas first month the debt went up, that much is true..we were still on the budget from the previous year, crash was still ongoing, etc

O5t had gone down this month, also true. But to claim this s Trump victory shows a total ignorance that is scary in a Prez.. or is it the public he thinks don't know any better?

http://www.trueactivist.com/trump-slashes-natl-debt-by-12-billion-in-first-month-media-silent

Who's Foolin Who? 😉

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posted March 01, 2017 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
It went up the first month of Obama? Understatement much? It went up $200 billion! And that was foreshadowing, because Obama doubled the whole thing in 8 years! Going down is quite unusual. Thanks, President Trump!

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posted March 02, 2017 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Randall I know you aren't that thick. Maybe you think other people are..? Fess up your man is taking credit for Obama's budget ..you know if it was not good news he would be blaming him.

And oh! Those leaks? That he hired independent investigators to find because he doesn't trust anyone? Looks like they may be coming from Himself.

SO presidential.

http://theseattletribune.com/trumps-unsecured-android-device-believed-to-be-source-of-recent-white-house-leaks/

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posted March 02, 2017 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
The leaks are from Obama leftovers. But the budget drops can't be Obama leftovers, since he exploded the budget beyong all recorded limits--while Trump exploded growth of the stock market by $3 trillion! Tweeting on a cell isn't classified info, unlike Hillary's crimes.

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posted March 02, 2017 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Trump has had no input on the budget as yet. So sorry, no credit to him..and the stock market is still not part of it. No score buddy.

Tweeting is not where the leaks are coming from, but he uses his cell elsewhwre and he discusses business in the open among public strangers.

The article is actually satire 😉
But totally possible

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posted March 02, 2017 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Wrong on all counts. Trump cut programs by Executive Order, including funding for the arts, and he will soon have trimmed away a trillion in fat. As he cuts, they won't be missed due to the surge in the economy, new job growth, and increased job participation rate, thereby creating a one-two punch to pay for his programs.

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posted March 04, 2017 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina        Reply w/Quote
Solly chollie.
EOs dont alter the budget one whit. By definition. Congress is the purseholder.The surplus you are praising is from the last budget, and the DEFICIT has been coming down for years now.

The national DEBT on the other hand, will keep going up until someone figures out how to cancel interest..which keeps compounding. Even if we didnt borrow another penny.

Meanwhile staffers report that NONE of the wifi at Maralago is secure.. so the snark article is not far off the money.

Traitors may be more exciting but incompetence is more often the culprit

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posted March 04, 2017 03:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
The budget is approved by Congress, yes. But it fluctuates. If that money isn't spent, it isn't spent. EOs can increase or decrease a certain expenditure, if it is within the President's power to do so. Obama ran up $200 billion his first month, which was a sign of things to come.

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posted March 04, 2017 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
And Trump is slicing away one trillion of waste, which technically will still be spent, but on better things. He has to request budget increases for prolonged spending, as opposed to one-time singular EO demands, like he just requested with military increases. And, of course, he's saving us money in the future by negotiating lower costs for planes and such. Infrastructure will be helped by the private sector.

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posted March 04, 2017 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop        Reply w/Quote
President Trump, a real CEO...and proving it every day he's been in office.

There's lots of facets in Making America Great Again and this President is hitting all the right notes, the high notes and working down the list of priorities.

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posted March 04, 2017 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwhop:
President Trump, a real CEO...and proving it every day he's been in office.

There's lots of facets in Making America Great Again and this President is hitting all the right notes, the high notes and working down the list of priorities.


Hardly.

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