posted May 29, 2017 08:02 AM            

I think he will stay in.

posted May 29, 2017 02:11 PM            

Climate or not coal is dirty, poisonous and on its way out.

posted May 29, 2017 02:57 PM            

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Originally posted by pire:
The world stick with it, make the rules without the contribution of the US, create new regulations that apply to companies worldwide and that US companies will have to obey if they don't want to be left aside, but without the possibility of their government bending the agreement in their favor.
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Marvelous post! Were it to be... please YES!

Regarding the money rich countries agrred to give to poor countries, to compensate for the efforts asked to them, like a clean industry while not being allowed to pollute to improve their industry over time as the west did, it will be harder, but no doubt the succesor of Trump will see the danger of the US being left out in the market of every industry, with rules for US industries being set by its competitors when they go abroad

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posted May 29, 2017 04:03 PM            

Fracking is not a necessary evil. IMHO though it is indeed evil.

e·vil

/ˈçvəl/

profoundly immoral and malevolent.

Not enough press about the issue- yes, the reports are locally reported, and ignored. With the contaminates in our local water [yes lead] and the press about Detroit it is moving up in hot button.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/toxic-waters/contaminants/index.html

Years ago I posted a similar link. In the US you can access what is reported to be in your water, it's law for now, but you know corporations would like you to think the EPA is evil as well....

posted May 29, 2017 05:45 PM            

Fracking was seen as an escape hatch from dependence on outside oil during transiting toi cleaner energy. However it has become the next big boom in the eyes of the oilers, who want to make as much hay before the industry collapses as they can.

If theRockefellers are divesting of fossil fuels you know it's on its way out and you know they all know its killing us via the environment.

posted May 29, 2017 07:32 PM            

Go ahead and destroy the Heartlands.. the Prez has investments at stake. Let them eat tarsands and shale oil.

posted May 30, 2017 05:01 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I hope President Trump pulls us out of this fraud. We are in it to the tune of billions, and there's no sanctions for not complying, so it's just a money grab by the poorer nations, who won't do anything. Hell, NATO members aren't even keeping their word.

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You say : there is no sanctions for not complying, SO it's just a money grab

Are you deliberately avoiding to get that making nearly 200 countries agree on such a drastic change of the way industries are producing is tremenously difficult ?

The world, except US apparently, or should I say except Trump and his fans, agree that today is the begining of a new era of clean energy and industries. That it will take time for those who have all their industries developped already to get them to change, and that it will take financial support to get the developping countries to jump straight away to the renewable energy and clean industries?

Besides, the movement is started, the US may or may not join, but the consciousness on the subject is already changed throughout the world, the only question for the US is will they decide to have their word on the new regulations or not.

I am seriously confident that Trump isn't representative of US or US companies.

I will give you an example of what is going on, in africa, they will skip the need for banks to settle in every corner of the different countries. This lack of banks prevented the development of potential small business that required some fundings. implanting banks everywhere, where roads were not always available was virtually impossible. Nowayday they can do without it, thanks to mobile, every african has a mobile nowadays, and paying and sending virtual money through mobile is random there.

You think if they are helped to develop renewable energies that are FREE they will hesitate ?

And do you think their interest in the process is suspended to the decision of your current leader ?

A new market is emerging. Clean energies, clean industries... if you miss the boat, others won't. And US companies know that, that is why Trump hasn't confirmed straight away the pull out of the US of the paris agreement. I bet some big discussions are hapening between him and major US companies right now. But he has to please his supporters.... but to me it is just a delay in what is inevitable

posted May 30, 2017 06:28 AM            

The Rest of the World has to maximize Solar Energy and totally end the need for Crude/Coal based electrical power.

posted May 30, 2017 02:41 PM            

Obama just had to come in and clean up the mess and recovering as much of Bush's losses as possible.

posted June 01, 2017 01:14 PM            

However Solar is overtaking fossils in production world wide, in job generstion, and in the fossil companies they are gearing up to it too.

Dont fool yourself that early stage failures negated the wave bringing solar in. The current push to maximize profit in a dying industry.. even Saudis are going solar domestically.. is a last ditch grab.

posted June 01, 2017 04:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
And we're out!

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You're cheering people who want to destroy the environment. Of course you are.