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Topic: Here are all The casualties of the Trump administration ...
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2017 10:33 AM
  
so far  Adios Spicer, Mr alternate facter. quote:
Sean Spicer, President Donald Trump's press secretary, resigned on Friday after little more than six months on the job.Trump's administration as a whole has been rocked by a series of high-profile exits since he took office in January. Here are the top-level people who've either been fired or resigned from the Trump administration.
Michael Flynn,security advisor.
James Comey, FBI Director
Sally Yates, acting AG
Preet Bharara, U.S. att. /sheriff of wall street
Katie Walsh.deputy chief of staff
Michael Dubke, communications director. Certainly we will see Jeff Sessions next on this list!!
Oh and so many on the stump with him. An impressive crew and some who would not kiss his dictatorial butt. http://www.businessinsider.com/who-has-trump-fired-so-far-james-comey-se an-spicer-michael-flynn-2017-7 ------------------
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jwhop
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posted July 22, 2017 12:28 PM
Michael Flynn,security advisor.
Michael Flynn lied to VP Pence.
Fired For CauseJames Comey, FBI Director
James Comey broke the operating rules of the FBI and usurped the Authority of the Justice Department. Fired For Cause Sally Yates, acting AG
Refused to do her job, disobeying a direct order of the President of the United States.
Fired For Cause Preet Bharara, U.S. att. /sheriff of wall street
Refused the President's order to resign his post. A lawful order issued by the President to someone who served at the "Pleasure of the President".
Fired For Cause Katie Walsh.deputy chief of staff
Deputy chief of staff Katie Walsh is being dispatched to Trump’s outside political group, America First Policies Michael Dubke, communications director.
Resigned:
Dubke wrote in a statement that it had been an honor to serve Trump and “my distinct pleasure to work side-by-side, day-by-day with the staff of the communications and press departments.” Nice try but no cookies and milk for you! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 22, 2017 02:40 PM
The first four deserved what they got.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 22, 2017 04:27 PM
Oh yes I do and I will enjoy the party as it unfolds. I`ll take peanut butter cookies please  ------------------
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted July 22, 2017 04:28 PM
oh, and Sessions will end up getting what he deserves too!!------------------
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Randall
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posted July 22, 2017 08:07 PM
President Trump is very competitive and is a winner, not a dictator. He doesn't want his butt kissed. He appreciates opposing opinions. He also takes advice from his generals. Scaramucci is another counter puncher, and he complements President Trump. I doubt Sessions is going anywhere. Team Trump is looking stronger and better than ever. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted July 22, 2017 09:22 PM
Repeat it ^ five times and you will believe it .------------------
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Randall
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posted July 22, 2017 09:50 PM
The truth is very easy to believe, unlike that lying drivel you watch on MSNBC and CNN.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 22, 2017 11:50 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
President Trump is very competitive and is a winner, not a dictator. He doesn't want his butt kissed. He appreciates opposing opinions. He also takes advice from his generals. Scaramucci is another counter puncher, and he complements President Trump. I doubt Sessions is going anywhere. Team Trump is looking stronger and better than ever.
What planet are you on? He doesn't want his butt kissed? Seriously? They had video of people at a meeting, who had to praise him in some way, before they got down to work. He doesn't appreciate opposing opinions: he posts insults on twitter, to anyone who disagrees with him. Scaramucci apparently went on a deleting spree, deleting his criticisms of Toddler Trump. His team is looking just as weak as people expected it to IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 22, 2017 11:51 PM
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2017 07:36 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
The truth is very easy to believe, unlike that lying drivel you watch on MSNBC and CNN.
Again, repeat it five times and... rinse, repeat. ------------------
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Randall
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posted July 23, 2017 10:34 AM
Spicer never hid in the bushes. We know where you get your news from.IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
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posted July 23, 2017 10:38 AM
^ He may not have but he certainly hung under that black cloud of suspicion Trumps shadow cast.------------------
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teasel
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posted July 23, 2017 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Spicer never hid in the bushes. We know where you get your news from.
He kind of did. I know where you get your news from, and it isn't to be trusted. Anyway, the bush thing above was a joke. Trump supporters are clearly not into reality. IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2017 12:52 PM
Teasel, I think many are slowly waking up. The hard core will not. Even when Trumps agenda of an oligarchy is revealed, they will claim illegal wiretapping , by a fake Muslim evil journalist, created the fake news. ------------------
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Catalina
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From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 23, 2017 02:01 PM
Real fake news is sue-able. DTs lawyers are almost famous for threatening journalists who plan to release unflattering information.. but funnily facts are the ultimate defense in libel lawsuits .. and while the more timid might back down in the face of such threats, journos with integrity and/ or substantial backing, tend to go ahead and publish. So where are the lawsuits? Nowhere.. because you can't win if the story is not really fake. I hear the Admin has looked into "broadening "libel laws but so far there is no way without an Amemdment.. and that would need the backing of too many other parties to float. Methinks its just another intimidation attempt...
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Catalina
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From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 23, 2017 02:07 PM
A joke? How dare you t?IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
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posted July 23, 2017 02:29 PM
"Real fake news is sue-able. DTs lawyers are almost famous for threatening journalists who plan to release unflattering information.."I guess you don't know this but it's much more difficult for a "Public Figure" to sue for libel, slander or defamation of character. There is no one in the world who is a more "Public Figure" than the President of the United States. If it were me, I'd shut off the leakers to the infantile, imbecilic press by arresting them, indicting them, prosecuting them, convicting them and putting them in prison..with the maximum sentence allowed by law. So, give your pseudo legalistic bullshiiite a rest. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 23, 2017 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
A joke? How dare you t?
I know. I don't know what I was thinking.  Spicer in the bushes, was my favourite thing this year. It kind of endeared me to him, because I'd probably hide in the bushes, too, if I had to face reporters for rump. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 23, 2017 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by juniperb:
Teasel, I think many are slowly waking up. The hard core will not. Even when Trumps agenda of an oligarchy is revealed, they will claim illegal wiretapping , by a fake Muslim evil journalist, created the fake news.
Cat's post above, about fake news being sue-able, reminded me of this: http://theweek.com/speedreads/695695/reince-priebus-admits-trump-administration-looked-into-changing-first-amendment "The changes President Trump wants are blocked by decades of jurisprudence which is little contested, unlike other hot button points of constitutional law," writes TPM's Josh Marshall. "If you want what Trump wants, you have to amend the Constitution — and not the Constitution in general but the First Amendment specifically. Amending the First Amendment to allow the head of state to sue people who say things he doesn't like amounts to abolishing it." IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 23, 2017 03:13 PM
All news outlets are vulnerable to lawsuits for lying. Whether thePresident sues them, or his lawyers threatened them before he was president, is immaterial. They can be sued but not one lawsuit for actual falsehoods has been floated.A year or so ago DTs lawyer threatened to sue a reporter for reporting the FACT that Ivana claimed in a court statement that her husband had raped her in a rage.. which she had. The fact that she later retracted that claim was also reported. This is called factual.. and no way is it slander or fake news. Hence no actual lawsuit because the journo refused to be intimidated. Unpleasant facts and people's opinions cannot be prosecuted. And yes, the president is a public figure. There is a difference between being poked at and fake news.. as every president before him has recognized. Public figures are fair game.. but libel is not. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 23, 2017 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Catalina:
All news outlets are vulnerable to lawsuits for lying. Whether thePresident sues them, or his lawyers threatened them before he was president, is immaterial. They can be sued but not one lawsuit for actual falsehoods has been floated.A year or so ago DTs lawyer threatened to sue a reporter for reporting the FACT that Ivana claimed in a court statement that her husband had raped her in a rage.. which she had. The fact that she later retracted that claim was also reported. This is called factual.. and no way is it slander or fake news. Hence no actual lawsuit because the journo refused to be intimidated. Unpleasant facts and people's opinions cannot be prosecuted. And yes, the president is a public figure. There is a difference between being poked at and fake news.. as every president before him has recognized. Public figures are fair game.. but libel is not.
Yeah, and I remember Donald accusing Obama of certain things, he kept up at that Birther crap, and continues to blame him for things that he or his family/group are guilty of. He flings crap, but doesn't think anyone should fling it at him: just like his supporters. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2017 04:38 PM
Oh, you're a real legal expert!  Listen up "Legal Beagle", anyone CAN sue anyone for anything. It's what happens when the case comes before a judge and the law and precedent are applied that matters. IP: Logged |
Catalina
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From: shamballa
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posted July 23, 2017 05:19 PM
Really?!! You don't say😲IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted July 23, 2017 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Oh, you're a real legal expert! Listen up "Legal Beagle", anyone [b]CAN sue anyone for anything. It's what happens when the case comes before a judge and the law and precedent are applied that matters.[/B]
She already pointed out that they CAN. She said THEY HAVEN'T. Learn to read.
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