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Catalina
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posted July 25, 2017 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How sweet of DT to reinstate him as a Hero.. cause he voted "correctly".
http://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/509799001/

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posted July 25, 2017 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His speech on health care and bipartisan work was needed and timely.
He spoke not as a Republican but as an American citizen . Kudos John McCain.

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posted July 26, 2017 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet. To hell with them. They don't want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

"Let's trust each other. Let's return to regular order. We've been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That's an approach that's been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires


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posted July 26, 2017 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Catalina
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posted July 26, 2017 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think, teasel, this was a vote to discuss possible bills.. they haven't got one yet and most everyone has been locked out of the process hes talking about returning to. It was a dig at McConell and the exec who thinks he can tell senators how to vote.. and ast Congress in general for forgetting what their job is. Sure it's politicking.. Still needed to be said. nothing like a brush with your mortality to reset priorities..

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posted July 26, 2017 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just came back to edit out my post. It just worries me. Like everything else.

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Catalina
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posted July 26, 2017 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So much for last minute eye openings
http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/25/1683994/-McCain-stood-at-the-podium-and-said-he-would-vote-no-on-the-bill-as-it-stands-guess-how-he-voted?

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posted July 27, 2017 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn`t read your article Cat but this is what he said

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McCain said he voted to allow amendments to be brought forward in the ensuing debate, adding that he would not vote for the Senate healthcare bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act, in its current form.

He was for the debate not the current bill.

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posted July 27, 2017 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And then, six hours after McCain made this statement, the bill came up for a vote. The bill failed, with a final vote of 57—43. The usual selection of “moderates” were joined by the kill ‘em faster conservatives, with Susan Collins, Tom Cotton, Bob Corker, Lindsey Graham, Dean Heller, Mike Lee, Jerry Moran, Lisa Murkowski, and Rand Paul all voting against. But who is not in that list … Hmm.

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posted July 27, 2017 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is this the "further debate" McCain was refering to?

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posted July 27, 2017 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe 20 hours and several options were allowed for the debate. Still ongoing i guess. Meanwhile Sessions fellow senators are not taking kindly to the public tarring going on.

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posted July 28, 2017 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John McCain just voted NO!

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posted July 28, 2017 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes he did

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posted July 28, 2017 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump anointed McCain as a Hero and he just did the heroic thing. Voted for Obamacare.
CNN anchors were smiling like fresh cheshire cats even though it was 2-30 AM in USA.

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posted July 28, 2017 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question to White Christian Fundamentalists: Evangelicals wanted Obamacare to be repealed, damn the 23 million Souls who depend on Obamacare.
Did Jesus save McCain from Death so that Obamacare can continue?

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posted July 28, 2017 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Catalina
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posted July 28, 2017 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now.. Will we see this administration make an effort to carry out the law as it stands?

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posted July 28, 2017 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, he won't.

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posted July 28, 2017 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No, he won't.

Because he's selfish, and doesn't care about the American people.

I hope that if he has a better side, at all, that it shows itself soon. He called the other bill "mean" a few weeks ago.

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posted July 28, 2017 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noted that Randall believes this president is a law unto himself and likes it that way. Tou should apply for a job in the WH..before they fill them all with robots

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posted July 30, 2017 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John McCain, hero of the leftist lunatics.
Let's not forget it was McCain who passed the phony dossier about Trump to James Comey at the FBI in an effort to paint Trump as a tool of Putin and Russia. That's blown up in democrat faces but that wasn't McCain's intent.

July 30, 2017
McCain Gonna McCain
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There was a report from Bloomberg of "audible gasps on the Senate floor" as John McCain voted NO on the Obama Care skinny repeal bill. Gasps, really? I would've gasped had he done anything different. McCain was simply, predictably, being McCain. This is the same McCain who continually tries to sabotage Donald Trump. This is the same McCain he's been for at least 25 years.

Consider a little history for context sake:

The Arizona Senator and I first crossed paths during the 1992 Campaign between incumbent George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. McCain was emerging as a media darling during this time, putting his days in the Keating Five Savings and Loan Scandal behind him. The Keating Five? Oh, McCain and four Democrats, of course. Some things never change. Certainly not McCain.

Meanwhile, Clinton's team of James Carville and George Stephanopoulos had put North Carolina squarely in the cross hairs as a must-win state in 92, and a series of odd events had landed me as Communications Director of NC Bush Quayle. Thus, as a small government pro-liberty Reagan conservative, I was in the service of a mushy moderate President who was determined to distance himself from Reagan, along with his rhetorically challenged VP. It was a root canal experience, let me tell you.

Team Bush was struggling because they couldn't, or wouldn't, run clearly to the right of Clinton and expose the differences. When Ross Perot entered the race, he further muddied the waters because his agenda agreed with the conservative agenda about 75% of the time, yet he clearly despised Bush more than he wanted to defeat Clinton. Whatever Perot's motivations were, the result was that the 92 election was an ideological mess, and Bush was not a man who even understood that, let alone overcame it.

To make things worse, enter John McCain, who was riding his war hero story, and a questionable passion for the pro-life position, into stardom on the right during this time. A big part of McCain's self-serving strategy was to ingratiate himself to the liberal media by trashing other Republicans, which he did often. So, paradoxically, he gained credibility on the right, by trashing the right, because he became the only man (ostensibly) on the right that the media liked, and we were desperate on the right to be liked by anyone in the media. Consider: talk radio was new and small, CNN was the only cable channel, and Andrew Breitbart was just starting to emerge from his "hippy dippy" liberal youth (his words).

The Mainstream Media still ruled the roost, and McCain's message to them was that Bush "must stop being so extreme," as in so extremely conservative. The exact opposite was true. Bush wasn't nearly conservative enough, nor capable of articulating those views on which he was conservative. Clearly McCain knew this, wanted Bush to lose, and to climb the ladder in the vacuum a Bush loss would create. And the media was all too happy to help. I was forced to try and use whatever media influence in North Carolina I could muster to overcome McCain's message, which is why I remember it like yesterday.

And yes, I fully understand that now, everybody on the planet is onto McCain's schtick. Most of that didn't really happen until at least 2000, and into 2008 and beyond. In ‘92 however, I was on a lonely planet. I even got into a heated dispute with the host on the G. Gordon Liddy Radio Show in early 1993 about this. Gordon was still drinking the McCain Kool Aid, as were all of his listeners.

Now back to the future: everyone knows what's in the Kool Aid now.

So here we are, with McCain shaking off the effects of cancer to cast a vote that ensures we probably won’t get the same treatment he did. The John McCain who sabotaged the so called 'skinny repeal' vote over Obama Care, and who fought openly with Donald Trump months ago, is exactly the same John McCain he has always been. He not only trashes conservatives at every opportunity, he then takes credit for being this courageous "maverick," even as everybody knows that trashing conservatives to the media is the easiest, most gutless thing a person can do.

Almost everything about McCain's carefully crafted image is a lie. It always has been. And now, in a somewhat cruel irony, McCain has access to massive amounts of Obama Care-exempted health care, while voting to make sure you and I remain trapped under this failed disaster. In other words, McCain is just being McCain. This is who he's always been.

He "reached across the aisle" in the 1980's to enrich himself while the Savings and Loan scandal was bankrupting average Americans. He reached across the aisle in the 90's to help Bill Clinton. He reached across the aisle in 2005 and 06 in the name of comprehensive immigration reform. He reached across the aisle to help foist the corrupt Dodd-Frank bill on us. And on and on it goes.

Now he's reaching across the aisle in service of a corrupt, lobbyist contrived and bureaucrat enforced abomination called ObamaCare. Of course he is. This is who John McCain is, and always has been.
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/mccain_gonna_mccain_.html

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posted July 30, 2017 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]I hope we can again rely on humility, on our need to cooperate, on our dependence on each other to learn how to trust each other again and by so doing better serve the people who elected us. Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet. To hell with them. They don't want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

"Let's trust each other. Let's return to regular order. We've been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle. That's an approach that's been employed by both sides, mandating legislation from the top down, without any support from the other side, with all the parliamentary maneuvers that requires



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posted July 30, 2017 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's time for McCain The RINO.."Republican In Name Only, to retire. Long past time actually.

Time for the republican governor of Arizona to then appoint a real conservative to represent conservatives voters in Arizona.

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posted July 30, 2017 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah what a turd calling for actual governance by the rules. Your monomania is showing again jwhop. ThePrez must be obeyed!! All hail!!

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posted July 30, 2017 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:

[QUOTE] [b]Stop listening to the bombastic loudmouths on the radio and television and the internet. To hell with them. They don't want anything done for the public good. Our incapacity is their livelihood.

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