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Catalina
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posted August 20, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You moaned and screamed thru those 8 yrs.. but now everyone should shut up and lump it? That makes sense in what world? Marxist coward.. and you call the anti Trumpers hyperbolic hysterics?🤣

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Catalina
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posted September 03, 2017 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More muzzling this time by Repub congressman having a reporter arrested for "disruption" - ie asking an awkward question. No threats, physical actions or treason involved.
http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/02/republican-senator-just-voter-arre sted-simple-question-daughter/

Has the 2nd Amendment become more important than the First?

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jwhop
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posted September 03, 2017 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A ridiculous question. But, par for the course for leftist open border lunatics.

“Thank you, Senator Toomey, for coming here tonight to hear our questions. I’m assuming you’ve been busy thinking about how to answer our questions, so you haven’t seen the news. Do you know whether you daughter, Bridget, has been abducted?”

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posted September 03, 2017 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obama is a Marxist. Obama is a coward. What is so hard to understand? Obama embarrassed America by bowing to the rest of the world and its dictators.

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posted September 03, 2017 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Catalina
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posted September 04, 2017 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops almost made the mistake of trying to argue with dogma.

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posted September 05, 2017 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people argue just for the sake of arguing.

Randall has the right "argument" on The Marxist Messiah, Obama.

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Catalina
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posted September 06, 2017 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A mantra is not an argument. Its a conversation stopper. "I put up with" is a blatant lie, and even if he did? People have the right to laugh at, be disgusted or frightened or saddened by DT and his "policies" or behaviour. Telling them to lump it like he did..especially when he didn't.. is no argument at all.

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posted September 06, 2017 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
A mantra is not an argument. Its a conversation stopper. "I put up with" is a blatant lie, and even if he did? People have the right to laugh at, be disgusted or frightened or saddened by DT and his "policies" or behaviour. Telling them to lump it like he did..especially when he didn't.. is no argument at all.

Yeah, people have the right to do all those things you mention. But, outright lying about someone crosses all lines in a civilized society.

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Catalina
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posted September 06, 2017 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
🤣🤣🤣😎

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Catalina
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posted December 15, 2017 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your hero outright lies about people all the time.

Meanwhile this may not be legaclly technically about free speech.. but banning words is another step in muzzling all dissenting voices

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?utm_te rm=.4d035c2cf2a5
Classic political repression

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Catalina
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posted December 16, 2017 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Randall gives himself points for "lumping it" underObama but he was here 24/7 complaining. So now you can "lump" people complaining about what they see as wrong and nasty in your self-appointed naked Emperor

So no one is bothered by words being banned ?

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posted December 16, 2017 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's to avoid controversy in government writings. Unorthodox but not a free speech violation. Nothing to see here.

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posted December 16, 2017 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anytime randall says nothing to see here you better believe the topic is important and represents a push towards fascism. Keywords are important!

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Randall
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posted December 16, 2017 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I said nothing to see here with Russian collusion, and guess what?

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Catalina
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posted December 17, 2017 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its fascinating how you know every bit of reasoning that goes thru the admins heads. Please explain how the word fetus is confusing, insensitive or controversial in medical circles..

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posted December 17, 2017 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And guess what he's going to try and fire Mueller before he gets indicted. More corruption and erosion of justice and truth. Typical dictator maneuvers.

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Catalina
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posted December 17, 2017 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Prez cannot fire Special Counsel . If he does its illegal.

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Randall
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posted December 17, 2017 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Says who?

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Catalina
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posted December 17, 2017 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ask Nixon

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Randall
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posted December 17, 2017 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was public opinion that hurt Nixon, not the law.

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Catalina
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posted December 17, 2017 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually he broke the law but Not the point. Nixon was unable to fire special counsel. That is the DOJ jurisdiction. Nixon tried to accomplish said firing by firing successive AGs until he found someone who would do his bidding.

To his regret, the next counsel hired went down the exact same road of conflict with Nixons interest. He was forced to choose between compliance and resigning.

So, Rosenstein can fire Mueller..Tromp cannot. Tromp can fire Rosenstein or pressure him with that.. but that just kicks the can down the road.

There are parameters for qualifications of a SC. There is prescribed liasing with Congress involved too.

CFR 600.7 also provides that the SC may be disciplined or removed from office only by the personal action of the AG and that the AG may remove a Special Counsel for "misconduct, dereliction of duty, incapacity, conflict of interest, or for other good cause, including violation of Departmental policies."
- in this case Deputy AG since the AG has recused himself..

And since Rosenstein has been overseeing the investigation all along and ok'd it soi far, it looks unlikely he is going to fire Mueller.

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posted December 17, 2017 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump has asserted that he has not colluded with Russia and hence he has no need to fire Mueller.

If he forces Rosenstein to fire Mueller, then it is an admission of guilt which was allegedly never there. It would be a very bad political move.

From Renato: "If Mueller didn’t follow the law, a court would suppress the evidence so it couldn’t be used. The reason Trump’s lawyers are writing letters to Congress instead of Mueller or a court is because their legal arguments have no merit. "

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posted December 17, 2017 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True, but it's just semantics. He can order that he be fired. Tomato tomahto. President Trump is waiting for official exoneration, as he should.

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Catalina
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posted December 17, 2017 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are parameters for firing the SC. He can order all he likes.. he can fire Rosenstein ..but he can't force him to fire Mueller outside of those parameters and so far theres no justifying it.

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