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Catalina
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posted August 16, 2017 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trump admin pressuring server to hand over personal info on users visiting anri-trump sites
http://www.dreamhost.com/blog/we-fight-for-the-users/

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posted August 16, 2017 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what jwhop accuses people like Maduro and Kim the Kook of.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/trump-government-demands-data-million-anti-trump-website-visitors/

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posted August 16, 2017 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A Pew Research Poll found that 40% of Millenials support banning speech that they find offensive. These are the people who are going to be running this country someday. If you don't have free speech, you don't have America.

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posted August 17, 2017 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Free Speech" is protected by the US Constitution. Free Speech includes criticism of government policy, leaders, politicians, religions, races.
Audible Abuse, Death Threats, Terrror Threats, Threats of Genocide etc are not Free Speech.
The line between the vilest Free Speech and the most innocuous death treat is murky. Every Generation has to decide the position of this specific red-line.

Hitler had the Free-Speech to write Mein Kampf. The interpretation of that Free-Speech led to millions of Jews being gassed to Death.
Blacks were lynched by Klansmen and White Elites for decades. Today, even uttering "Nigg*r" would invite a nice thrashing.

Why do White Supremacists use "Nigg*r" only in private and not publicly, in the name of Free Speech?

The thing is despite the 1st Amendment Freedom, a majority of American Whites believe that Dehumanization is NOT Free Speech. Verbal Abuse is NEVER Free Speech.

The fear of this Conscience of a majority of Americans ensures that the hate groups keep their ridicule of Colored people indoors.

The Mainstream Media is a Keeper of this Conscience. CNN for instance may have issues about being biased, but channels like CNN will never allow colored people to get Dehumanized by White Racists.

The "Vice" episode indicated that White Racists feel Trump is not racist enough because he allowed a Jew to marry his daughter. All those scumbags voted for Trump thinking that Trump will allow Dehumanization of Blacks, Jews, Latinos etc using 1st Amendment as a crutch.

Trump has not yielded so far. That should be taken as a positive by all good Americans to get through this very difficult period in your Nations life.

Let us not paint Trump as a Mr Evil.
There are far more evil forces at play here, dangerous "Whispering Jinns".

Pluto return 5th D possibilities should concern all Americans, so that they can circumvent the consequences of allowing hatred to permeate through society.

Racism has no place in the Age of Aquarius.

Today, I saw a ship named "Aquarius" rescue their 11,000th migrant in the Mediterranean even as another ship of Racists was trying to prevent the rescue.
This is a Great Sign for the Planet.

Every Human Being matters. Every Refugee matters. Every Life matters. Legal or Illegal, a Human is a Human. Yes, apply the laws but not for second should Human to Human Decency be forgotten.

We are all incessantly praying for America and Americans to not get divided and let a dark person like Putin assume leadership of our Planet.

Today, we Humans are all Walking through the Valley of the Shadows of Death. And we need Divine Support to keep us fearless, strong and steadfast.

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jwhop
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posted August 17, 2017 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not about penetrating anti-Trump sites.

This is about sites calling for violence and rioting. The AG, Sessions shouldn't let up until he finds out the names of those owning the sites calling for violence and rioting. Behind them, Sessions will find the money man, America hating George Soros.

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posted August 17, 2017 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
originally posted by iQ:

Every Human Being matters. Every Refugee matters. Every Life matters. Legal or Illegal, a Human is a Human. Yes, apply the laws but not for second should Human to Human Decency be forgotten.


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posted August 17, 2017 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, leftists believe only Black Lives Matter.

They must believe that because that's the meme they keep pushing on America.

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posted August 17, 2017 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Enough with your distortion jwhop. Black Lives Matter TOO. You just totally ignored two people you call "leftist" saying otherwise

the whinging whites righters who think they should have the upper hand are a reality too. Until you admit that there are extremes on both sides and stop with the 24/7 vendetta against any and all people who might be to the left of you (that is most people) there is no conversation just dismissal and abuse...

People here have been taking issue with your abusive non discussion for years.. not because you're not a leftist but because you paint all criticism with the same brush. You yourself have admitted that your reason for being here is to "inflame and expose the leftist fools" not talk to them. Hence you are part of thr problem not the solution. Two wrongs don't make a right and your preferred media are also twisters trying to divide.

In the long run everybody loses if the stupid and angry can be encouraged to fight amongst themselves. You, Rush, Fox and Breitbarf have done your fair share.

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posted August 17, 2017 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The OP is from one of the server's who are being pressured. They said anti-trump not violent sites. Believe it or not there is plenty of violence on the pro-trump side of the fence. and tracking people who don't like Trump is not going to be the Nazis ..yet, tho it's beginning to look like they are disappointed that he has so manyJews around him.. funnily Stephen Miller is Jewish but they don't seem to have caught into that yet.

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posted August 17, 2017 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Enough with your distortion jwhop. Black Lives Matter TOO. You just totally ignored two people you call "leftist" saying otherwise"

Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about....again!

For at least the last 10 months, anytime someone said.."ALL LIVES MATTER" they were shouted down by leftist lunatics and kooks.

The "Black Lives Matter" slogan doesn't include the word TOO.

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posted August 19, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The ALL LIVES MATTER is an attempt to shout down BLM. They have a right to free speech too.

I don't particularly support BLM not defend violence by anyone. But if a friend of yours is feeling marginalized do you respond by telling him he's a cry baby and too shut up because you have problems too? Or do you at least try to find out what is making him feel that way? Do you tell him his language is offensive so his feeling doesnt matter?

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posted August 19, 2017 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BLM isn't about African American rights. It's not a grass roots movement. It's funded by Sorus in order to create a racial divide and civil unrest.

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posted August 19, 2017 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Debatable. Theres a long line of interactions to unravel before accusing one person of masterminding a whole movement

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posted August 19, 2017 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not a movement. Movements are grass roots.

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posted August 19, 2017 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Breitbart is funded by Mercer (who also fundedTrump campaign). Shall we just assume that Trump is no grass roots president but funded by Mercer to move the country in the same white nationalist directing as Breitbart point? Its feasible but i doubt you would swallow that without a good deal of research

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posted August 19, 2017 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No sale. Nice try, though. NOT! President Trump's campaign was funded by middle America in small single donations.

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posted August 19, 2017 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And a great deal of Mercers money. Look again

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posted August 20, 2017 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
BLM isn't about African American rights. It's not a grass roots movement. It's funded by Sorus in order to create a racial divide and civil unrest.

It is not, although I know a couple of people trying to push this rubbish.

God, I just woke up after crashing out earlier, having been up too long. I woke up and everything that worries me is crashing through my head. I thought about this forum, and just how miserable I've been, how that's the main reason I've been here. Angry over the election, but so miserable over everything, that I can't distract myself in other ways, the way I used to.

Then I see these dismissive posts, that's what really gets me. Dismissive, and passing along assumptions that come from conspiracy theorists, rather than paying attention to why people are saying and doing whatever they are communicating (or trying to). It's like there's a deliberate wall being put up, because it's what you want to believe.

Black friends of mine have been terrified for years now. They've had reason to be, their entire lives, and in recent years, we've had proof of why they are so scared, angry, defensive - mainly scared. Just because of the colour of their skin, and what some people out there think they're entitled to do to them, based on that, and that alone. Those I know aren't the professional victims that the alt-right likes to portray - they're stronger than most, because they've had to be. And now one friend is thinking about getting a gun for protection, although if he did end up having a problem with the police, it would probably be worse for him because of that weapon. Angry, insecure white guys can carry torches, and openly carry big weapons, can push the police, man-handle them - and not be shot, or tasered, or gassed. Black people have been shot without even touching a police officer. When reaching for an ID. It's disgusting. They should not have to deal with it.

That is why Black Lives Matter was formed. Because too many people think that they don't.

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posted August 20, 2017 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you are unaware of several facts. That in the high profile cases which began BLM, the police were innocent. That BLM has supported the killing of police officers. That BLM members have killed police officers. That they are very well organized and funded by individuals who use their angst for their own devious purposes to overthrow the government (going back to you saying how bad provocation is). And last, but certainly not least, maybe you are unaware of their list of demands.

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posted August 20, 2017 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Either way, it's a bad analogy--unless one person alone funded Trump's campaign. Fail.

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posted August 20, 2017 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And Teasel, just because something feels right in your heart, that doesn't make it a fact.

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posted August 20, 2017 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/08/10/south-carolina-cop-survives-shooting-on-video-tell-my-family-love-them.html

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posted August 20, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting piece here
http://medium.com/@ZarinaZabrisky/know-your-nazis-and-their-backers-6b55718a46c

PS to Randall

I did not even siggest that Mercer wasTrumps only funder. And it would be ridiculous to suggest Soros is BLMs only source of funds either

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posted August 20, 2017 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by teasel:
It is not, although I know a couple of people trying to push this rubbish.

God, I just woke up after crashing out earlier, having been up too long. I woke up and everything that worries me is crashing through my head. I thought about this forum, and just how miserable I've been, how that's the main reason I've been here. Angry over the election, but so miserable over everything, that I can't distract myself in other ways, the way I used to.

Then I see these dismissive posts, that's what really gets me. Dismissive, and passing along assumptions that come from conspiracy theorists, rather than paying attention to why people are saying and doing whatever they are communicating (or trying to). It's like there's a deliberate wall being put up, because it's what you want to believe.

Black friends of mine have been terrified for years now. They've had reason to be, their entire lives, and in recent years, we've had proof of why they are so scared, angry, defensive - mainly scared. Just because of the colour of their skin, and what some people out there think they're entitled to do to them, based on that, and that alone. Those I know aren't the professional victims that the alt-right likes to portray - they're stronger than most, because they've had to be. And now one friend is thinking about getting a gun for protection, although if he did end up having a problem with the police, it would probably be worse for him because of that weapon. Angry, insecure white guys can carry torches, and openly carry big weapons, can push the police, man-handle them - and not be shot, or tasered, or gassed. Black people have been shot without even touching a police officer. When reaching for an ID. It's disgusting. They should not have to deal with it.

That is why Black Lives Matter was formed. Because too many people think that they don't.


teasel, keep your balance, find your center and don't let anything knock you off stride. There have been many elections, there will be many more. We don't always get what we want.

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posted August 20, 2017 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to put up with that Marxist coward for 8 years. You Dems had your turn. You nominated a pathetic excuse for a candidate, and you lost. There's nothing you can do to change the outcome, so stop stressing over what is out of your control.

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