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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 02, 2017 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Warning: the police body cam footage is pretty upsetting to anyone who knows a nurse or knows what they go through on a daily basis.

Nurses pretty much live by hospital policy, for a reason: in part because it protects them and also because it protects the patients that they serve. If they don't follow hospital policy, then they're no longer protected by the hospital if they stray from that policy. In this situation, the nurse was doing exactly what she was supposed to do - an officer had requested a blood draw from a patient that was unable to consent (due to being unconscious), was not under arrest, and for which they did not have a warrant for such request. Hospital policy required that one of those 3 criteria be fulfilled. You can overhear her double checking with her supervisor over the phone prior to being arrested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyZnUIuCQ-s

Update: the Salt Lake City Mayor and police chief have both apologized to the nurse since this incident. The police officer in question and another officer (who is not identified but is likely the one who stood by and did nothing while all of this occurred) are on administrative leave pending a criminal investigation regarding the incident.

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mirage29
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posted September 02, 2017 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
grrrrrrrrrr
He was aggressive, man-handling her... rough.
I hope she (and the hospital) sues them, and he gets fired.

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posted September 02, 2017 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I caught this on CNN earlier....disgusting...unbelievable. Though sadly it's not uncommon (police brutality). Thanks for bringing the to the forefront. I'll be staying tuned.

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Randall
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posted September 02, 2017 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw this on Tucker Carlson earlier Friday. Glad the police chief took decisive action quickly. Suing the police isn't easy. The question is, was this a lawful arrest? If not, then there would certainly appear to be a case of battery. And if the arrest itself was lawful, was the amount of force excessive? The patient was very verbal, which made the arrest seem worse than it actually was. Then there's false imprisonment, which is detaining someone for an unreasonable amount of time. A federal lawsuit under Section 1983 is possible if it can be shown that the officer acted "under color of law." Hospital policy is fashioned after the law. If a police officer gives an unlawful command, citizens are not obligated to comply. It further complicates matters that this was private property. A lot of legal issues to be considered. The nurse wasn't physically harmed, but harm isn't an element of battery; nor is harm required for deprivation of a right under Section 1983. My guess is that the city will pay her an undisclosed amount to make this go away. Had the nurse complied, it would have been a HIPAA violation, and the unconscious patient would have been able to sue the hospital and easily have won. Here's an interview with the nurse:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zafTlclc090

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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 02, 2017 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm glad she released the video to the news. There's a lot to learn from this arrest.

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posted September 02, 2017 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was unbelievable. Hopefully, the cop gets fired & the city is sued.

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posted September 02, 2017 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:

@SV, I`m glad to see you here again


I took a break from my chronic workaholic-ism and decided to pop in.

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teasel
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posted September 03, 2017 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw that.

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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 06, 2017 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Update!

- The cop in question was fired from his part-time job as a paramedic after additional footage surfaced.
- The patient she was protecting was also a cop!
- Additional policy changes to support and protect not just nurses, but their patients from people such as Payne.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/09/05/548601099/calling-nurse-a-hero-utah-hospital-bars-police-from-patient-care-areas

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StubbornVirgo
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posted September 06, 2017 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I'll bring them all of the transients and take all of the good patients elsewhere..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExJDcDaXhJ8

Not a good way to keep your employer or the hospital happy! I guess he didn't think that his body camera footage would be looked at as a result of this incident.

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