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teasel
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posted September 19, 2017 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also don't see anyone here saying that he shouldn't be president, because he's unattractive. You said she shouldn't be president, because of what she wore.

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posted September 19, 2017 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never said you criticized Melania's heels. Everything is not always about you. And Hillary's attire was just one of many reasons she lost--indicative of how voters couldn't connect to her. I never mentioned anything about Hillary's hair, body, or looks. That's the difference. And for further proof of hypocrisy, President Trump has given several women very high positions, but where is the left with compliments about empowering women? Crickets.

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posted September 19, 2017 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just keep digging, just keep digging..

You may recall my objections to Sarah Palin. They had nothing to do with her being a woman or how she looked.

No one gives a ratz about HRC wearing pants except the closet sexists.

And my remarks about DT.. aired here only today, were to show you how stupid your even mentioning her pants suits (suits to those who aren't worried about women wearing pants) was.

It is you who have shown your true colours. Because if you think a woman in pantsuits is a problem it totally diminishes anything else you critique her for. Sorry Chaz.

Youre ok with a president who calls women"pieces of ass" and when they're heavier than he thinks ideal "pigs".. but a wardrobe choice is fair game to you.
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posted September 19, 2017 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you think Betsy deVos who bought a cabinet seat and an appellate judge nominee (with no experience) who thinks her religion takes priority over the law when sitting cases, Mike Huckabee's daughter and his own are exemplary of empowering women... your problem.

I dont look at women as beans in a counting game but as individuals. So far not impressed with the women he has appointed.

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posted September 19, 2017 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you read the book? OrFox's/ whoever's summary/ diatribe?

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posted September 19, 2017 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has taken well over a decade or two, but it's kind of nice to see true colors starting to peak through to others. I've been sitting back waiting quite a long time.....

Now, I think I'm due for another, longer, break.

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posted September 19, 2017 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you read the article, you would know why there's nothing sexist about the pant suits critique. It's not a problem. It's just one piece of a puzzle that shows how out of touch she was Obama's millennial voters. Yet, you are free to body shame our President with impunity. Typical. Not his clothing. His looks. Big difference. Hypocrite.

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posted September 19, 2017 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While President Trump empowers women, Hillary paid women less than men in her foundation.

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posted September 19, 2017 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It's not petty. It's relevant. It shows that Hillary was out of touch with her constituency and that the Millennial base who voted for Obama did not identify with her.
http://www.racked.com/2015/4/21/8433603/hillary-clinton-fashion-clothes-suits

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posted September 19, 2017 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by T:
It has taken well over a decade or two, but it's kind of nice to see true colors starting to peak through to others. I've been sitting back waiting quite a long time.....

Now, I think I'm due for another, longer, break.

out.


What are you talking about?

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posted September 19, 2017 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Have you read the book? OrFox's/ whoever's summary/ diatribe?

No thanks. I'll pass. Have you read any of President Trump's books?

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posted September 19, 2017 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
Just keep digging, just keep digging..

You may recall my objections to Sarah Palin. They had nothing to do with her being a woman or how she looked.

No one gives a ratz about HRC wearing pants except the closet sexists.

And my remarks about DT.. aired here only today, were to show you how stupid your even mentioning her pants suits (suits to those who aren't worried about women wearing pants) was.

It is you who have shown your true colours. Because if you think a woman in pantsuits is a problem it totally diminishes anything else you critique her for. Sorry Chaz.

Youre ok with a president who calls women"pieces of ass" and when they're heavier than he thinks ideal "pigs".. but a wardrobe choice is fair game to you.
Whatever


Right. I don't care about his looks - I don't even call him anything like Cheeto, because it doesn't matter. But it is hypocritical and sexist of him and others, to say that Hillary shouldn't be president because of the way she dresses and looks.

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posted September 19, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fwiw no man can empower women. Women empower themselves. Or not.

The relevant line for those too impatient to listen:
I can make a dress out of a bean bag and I'll make a man out of you..

But Miss M is so cute you might try
http://youtu.be/IDs-7I3NElE

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posted September 19, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you read the article, you would know why there's nothing sexist about the pant suits critique. It's not a problem. It's just one piece of a puzzle that shows how out of touch she was Obama's millennial voters. Yet, you are free to body shame our President with impunity. Typical. Not his clothing. His looks. Big difference. Hypocrite.

If pant suits were the main problem with her and millennials, then we really have a problem.

I don't know anyone who voted against trump because f the way he looks. They voted against what he stood for: the violence and ugliness of everything he touted at his rallies, his grabbing women (and his supporters making excuses for that). He's a sexual predator. That's what matters. Not a suit, or hair.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I never said they didn't vote for her because of her pant suits. Let me reiterate, Hillary did not lose due to her fashion sense! I said it indicated that she was out of touch with the voters who helped elect Obama. And Bill Clinton is the sexual predator.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No thanks. I'll pass. Have you read any of President Trump's books?

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

You mean"his own words" not the ghost writers or "media twists"?

As it happens i have more firsthand knowledge of his books than you do of hers. Oh and I'm from NY so hes come across my radar plenty, his NY delivery doesn't bother me personally (except for the insincerity of Mr Silverspoon trying to sound like Kotter).

Have you read the memoirs from the writer of Art of the Deal?

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posted September 20, 2017 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Memoirs? More Trump hate from people who loved him before he ran for office. But don't worry, Hillary never wrote her books, either.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, women empower themselves. Of that, I agree. I only use the term "empowerment," because the left claims to support it...unless the right furthers it.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
President Trump didn't cause the intolerance of the left--he exposed it. The true colors of the "tolerant" left can be seen in the violence, the riots, the death threats, the restriction on free speech, and all the rest of the insanity.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes, women empower themselves. Of that, I agree. I only use the term "empowerment," because the left claims to support it...unless the right furthers it.

Do you think that lying about someone bleeding from plastic surgery, because he dislikes her, is empowering women? He lies all the time. That doesn't empower anyone.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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President Trump didn't cause the intolerance of the left--he exposed it. The true colors of the "tolerant" left can be seen in the violence, the riots, the death threats, the restriction on free speech, and all the rest of the insanity.

So we're supposed to be tolerant in the face of intolerance? We're supposed to meditate, do yoga, and try to hug nazis?

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posted September 20, 2017 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isnt it time you stop talking about the left and start talking to the PEOPLE here? Who may or may not beLEFT but just don't like your guy for myriad reasons?

Left and right are disintegrating. Hopefully what will remain will be more realistic than a football game or reality tv episode

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posted September 20, 2017 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My cousin's husband is a veteran who supports Antifa. He says that he didn't fight for this country, just to have Nazis feel empowered to come out and spread their hate, thinking it's their time.

This might not be the right thread, but he has empowered nazis. This cousin and her husband were also worried about rights being taken away from women and specifically their daughters and granddaughters. He does not empower women.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said, the left was never truly tolerant. The party of free speech is no more. No one likes Nazis. What's worse, offensive speech, or physical violence? And if you check your history, the Nazis were from the left--the National Socialist party. Offensive speech is still protected speech. But physical violence, smashing car and business windows, and fire bombing police is never okay.

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posted September 20, 2017 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As I said, the left was never truly tolerant. The party of free speech is no more. No one likes Nazis. What's worse, offensive speech, or physical violence? And if you check your history, the Nazis were from the left--the National Socialist party. Offensive speech is still protected speech. But physical violence, smashing car and business windows, and fire bombing police is never okay.

Hitler wasn't a democrat, and the Nazis attacked people! They killed a woman!!

Damn it, I'm getting dizzy again. They killed a woman. They attacked others. They chanted Nazi BS. THAT IS BAD. that is scary.

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