posted October 30, 2017 03:03 PM            

There is something of a Cold Samurai Ninja about Mueller's approach. It is very scary actually. GP pleaded guilty to lying, and probably gave more intel on getting Manafort.

Once Manafort sings, it could be Flynn and then Kushner or even Junior.

Meanwhile, some comments from Breitbart members which were not anti-Hillary:

"Trump promised something that he can't deliver because he doesn't know what he's talking about. He is a conman."

"Jeff Sessions is a Swamp Creature"

"What about Bush? How many died thru his idiotic Iraq adventure? Should he be hung too? "

"sessions is a bum, an absolute low life"

posted October 30, 2017 04:24 PM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
There has been no trial of anyone accused by Mueller, therefore, there is no scandal there...at least not yet.

On the other hand, it's clear secret deliberations of a federal grand jury have been leaked to the media..CNN. That's a federal crime and a scandal for prosecutors to violate federal laws they're sworn to uphold. There's your scandal.

The fact you and other leftists applaud the violation of US Federal law shows the wide streak of lawlessness running through the leftist lunatic community. The fact you don't like the subject person(s) these lawless tactics were used against is no excuse whatsoever.

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“There has been no trial of anyone accused by Mueller...”

Funny, because Hillary Clinton has never been charged with a crime, let alone tried in a court of law, yet you repeatedly insist she’s a criminal that deserves to be locked up. Double standards much?

Once again, if a dozen or so people involved with a specific investigation (including the prosecutor) are all in court late on a Friday night, and then all of the sudden several sealed indictments are filed through this federal DC court, it is common sense that charges have been filed involving this investigation. There were reporters at the courthouse, presumably following the prosecutor and his team, witnessing “a flurry of activity”. It’s not rocket science, especially because Manafort’s lawyer was told months ago to expect criminal charges soon.

posted October 30, 2017 04:53 PM            

Hillary The Corrupt violated at least 13 federal statutes in her destroy all the evidence spree of storing and spreading secret documents on her server...then destroying those records to hide her criminality. That's just for starters.

Hillary The Corrupt and the DNC also violated federal law by paying foreign nationals for a bogus file created by Russian operatives tied to Putin. Campaigns may not pay foreigners from campaign funds, nor hide the source of those funds as Hillary The Corrupt did...and the DNC as well.

What I just said about Hillary The Corrupt's email server crimes is not speculation. It's been well documented in news stories going back years.

posted October 30, 2017 05:11 PM            

Hillary is a joke to keep pubbies entertained; conspiracy charges are real and chargable.

Go Mueller, Kushner next please.

Unless Daddy chickens out and fires Mueller.

posted October 30, 2017 05:50 PM            

By the way, your insistence that someone had to have leaked the existence of the sealed indictments is wrong. I assumed that the indictments would show up on the court docket as sealed, but I wasn’t sure if this is the case in federal court. Sure enough, they do show up on the docket as a matter of public record, but without the case number and defendant’s name. So once again, if the prosecutor and his team were the only ones in court all reporters had to do was look at the publicly available court docket to see that charges had been filed. I know that you don’t want to hear that because you’d rather assume that Mueller leaked the information.

posted October 30, 2017 06:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Jwhop, I’m not getting dragged into talking about Hillary. I swear it’s all Trump and his little Trumpkins can rant on about. She still lives rent free in your head. #SAD

By the way, your insistence that someone had to have leaked the existence of the sealed indictments is wrong. I assumed that the indictments would show up on the court docket as sealed, but I wasn’t sure if this is the case in federal court. Sure enough, they do show up on the docket as a matter of public record, but without the case number and defendant’s name. So once again, if the prosecutor and his team were the only ones in court all reporters had to do was look at the publicly available court docket to see that charges had been filed. I know that you don’t want to hear that because you’d rather assume that Mueller leaked the information.

Turns out there are 4 more sealed indictments on the docket filed between Papadopoulos’ in early October and Manafort’s on Friday. I wonder who’s next?

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posted October 30, 2017 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If that dossier that the Hillary campaign paid the Russians millions for was used to obtain the FISA warrant, then many Dems will be lining up for prison garb.

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Yeah, and while chortling about these indictments, leftists should remember that none of these indictments relate to any Trump/Russia collusion...which, after more than a year of investigation, has yet to be found!

Manafort was indicted on personal charges having nothing to do with Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. Ditto for his business partner. All the alleged crime happened years in the past and well before there ever was a Trump For President campaign.

posted October 31, 2017 12:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
If that dossier that the Hillary campaign paid the Russians millions for was used to obtain the FISA warrant, then many Dems will be lining up for prison garb.

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FAKE NEWS!!!!

First of all, it was a conservative group-The Washington Free Beacon that initially hired Fusion GPS, a Washington DC investigative company . This was to prevent Trump from getting the nomination in the first place, by the Republican Party.

The DNC only hired them after the fact to get the compromising information they had already acquired. As part of their investigation, Fusion GPS obtained information, which may or may not be true, from sources saying the Russians had compromising information and/or video on Trump. There was no direct contact with Russians, unlike Trump and his countless cronies.

I believe the “pee-pee” tape is real, unfortunately. In a 2001 Howard Stern interview, Trump brags about sleeping with AJ Benza’s girlfriend (while he’s with Melania, classy!). AJ confronts him about doing dirty things with Russian women that are presumed to be prostitutes.

Here is part of the video...sketchy Russian prostitute part is about 4 minutes in.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BhqUbW35R3Q

I used to listen to Howard Stern every morning for years, and Trump used to call in constantly. There is much worse that’s come out of Trump’s mouth, but apparently it’s not available/is being kept secret. I heard it with my own ears out of his mouth, and I know it to be true. I’ve also lived in South Florida and I’ve heard countless stories about what an utter piece of $hit he is as a human being, including being a complete pervert and bribing local officials with expensive cars to get what he wants, only to have the cars repossessed. Yeah it serves them right if they use their influence to profit, but Donald Trump has been at this game for years.....he’s Don the Con.

posted October 31, 2017 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Bluejay:
Jwhop, I’m not getting dragged into talking about Hillary. I swear it’s all Trump and his little Trumpkins can rant on about. She still lives rent free in your head. #SAD

By the way, your insistence that someone had to have leaked the existence of the sealed indictments is wrong. I assumed that the indictments would show up on the court docket as sealed, but I wasn’t sure if this is the case in federal court. Sure enough, they do show up on the docket as a matter of public record, but without the case number and defendant’s name. So once again, if the prosecutor and his team were the only ones in court all reporters had to do was look at the publicly available court docket to see that charges had been filed. I know that you don’t want to hear that because you’d rather assume that Mueller leaked the information.

Turns out there are 4 more sealed indictments on the docket filed between Papadopoulos’ in early October and Manafort’s on Friday. I wonder who’s next?

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Probably Flynn, Kushner, and Trump Jr., though the 4th one could be anyone, most likely Sessions, Bannon, or even Trump himself.

posted October 31, 2017 04:19 AM            

So Trump is being investigated by Mueller.

And my bet is it is about Money Laundering first, collusion later.

posted October 31, 2017 05:59 AM            

His only fear was being investigated.

posted October 31, 2017 09:03 AM            

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All the alleged crime happened years in the past and well before there ever was a Trump For President campaign.

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Fake news . The charges run through 2017.

posted October 31, 2017 09:31 AM            

This is decidedly FALSE.

Hillary The Corrupt and the DNC funded at least $9 million, laundered through a DC law firm to hire Richard Steele to spread democrat cash to Russians connected to Putin's Russian government for the fraudulent "Trump Dossier".

posted October 31, 2017 09:32 AM            

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Kelly, speaking on Fox News’ “The Ingraham Angle,” claimed that all the activities involving former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, his chief aide Rick Gates and a foreign policy advisor, George Papadopoulos, occurred “long before they ever met Donald Trump or had any association with the campaign.”

In fact, the investigation, being directed by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, covered the period in which all three served under Trump. Manafort and Gates were charged in a 12-count indictment that alleged money laundering, among other crimes. Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russians during the campaign.

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posted October 31, 2017 10:33 AM            

I didn't hear Ingraham say the issue with Papadopoulos happened long before he volunteered on the Trump campaign. He was attempting to set up meetings between Donald Trump and Russian government officials. That idea got trashed and squashed...by Paul Manafort and others. Those meetings never happened.

posted October 31, 2017 02:09 PM            

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The first big takeaway from Monday morning’s flurry of charging and plea documents with respect to Paul Manafort Jr., Richard Gates III and George Papadopoulos is this: The president of the United States had as his campaign chairman a man who had allegedly served for years as an unregistered foreign agent for a puppet government of Vladimir Putin, a man who was allegedly laundering remarkable sums of money even while running the now-president’s campaign, a man who allegedly lied about all of this to the FBI and the Justice Department.

The second big takeaway is even starker: A member of President Trump’s campaign team [Papadopoulos] admits that he was working with people he knew to be tied to the Russian government to “arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government officials” and to obtain “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of hacked emails — and that he lied about these activities to the FBI. He briefed President Trump on at least some of them.

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Mueller seems to be handling the far flung case like a MOB bust, and rightly so.
http://www.lawfareblog.com/robert-muellers-show-strength-quick-and-dirty-analysis

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Manafort’s alleged unregistered foreign agency on behalf of Ukraine and its Party of Regions, by contrast, reportedly ended in 2014, when then-Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych was ousted. So President Trump can at least claim that his campaign manager is not under indictment for being an unregistered foreign agent at the time he was running Trump’s campaign.

But that’s about the only good news in the indictment for the president. Because Manafort is alleged to have lied about his foreign-agent status and made false statements into this year. In other words, at the same time Papadopoulos admits he was working Russian government officials for Clinton emails and for a Trump-Putin meeting, Manafort was allegedly still laundering the money he had obtained by illegally representing one of Putin’s allied strongmen.

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