posted December 05, 2017 08:37 PM            

And one of the most odious secrets in the bill is "fetal personhood."

The House tax bill includes a clause giving personhood rights to a fetus. While this provision was removed from the Senate bill at the last minute, anti-choice lobbyists will be pushing hard to get it into the final bill

What place does fetal personhood have in a tax bill?? Nothing!

Yet this deception is right on page 97, in the definition of who is qualified to receive certain tax benefits for college savings accounts.

"Fetal personhood" has been the holy grail of the anti-abortion movement for years, but it’s never gone very far. Only two states, Kansas and Missouri, have "fetal personhood" provisions currently in law. It's been crushed on the ballot in such conservative states as Mississippi.

But "fetal personhood" is now on the verge of becoming the law of the land nationwide, and radical anti-choice groups know how big a deal this is. The anti-choice group Susan B. Anthony List called it part of a "trend across the spectrum of American law and public policy to affirm the significance and value of the human being growing in the womb."

They hope that trend leads directly to the overturning of Roe v. Wade, and with the likes of Neil Gorsuch, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito on the Supreme Court, that just might happen.

The GOP view of course is that women should not have reproductive freedom, nor should they have the right to decide what to do with their bodies.

If it passes, I see this heading towards a total ban on abortion, which can have horrible consequences for women.

An example is a case in El Salvador, where a woman began to miscarry while at work. She went to the work bathroom and fell down unconscious. When she came to, she was being handcuffed by the police, after which she was taken straight to jail where she has stayed for the last 10 yrs. She will be released in early 2018, after serving the FULL 10 yrs

El Salvador has a total ban on abortion

posted December 06, 2017 08:34 PM            

It's absolutely ridiculous that in 2017 we're still fighting for basic health care like birth control. We shld be working towards a world where more and more women have access to the reproductive health care they need...not reigniting debates that were settled decades ago

That the GOP doesn't want to treat women as their human counterparts is a huge sore point with me, ugh

posted December 06, 2017 11:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Listen up! I shouldn't be forced to buy health insurance that I don't want or need, much less that I would never be able to use!

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AKA "**** those starving/sick children".

posted December 07, 2017 12:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Catalina:
And i shouldn't be forced to pay for wars and weapons I don't want. Nor a standing army. Boohoo!

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You should most definitely pay your fair share for your defense, the defense of your family and the defense of the United States.

posted December 07, 2017 02:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Listen up! I shouldn't be forced to buy health insurance that I don't want or need, much less that I would never be able to use!

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Yes, well the majority of americans shldn't be forced to pay a single penny more in taxes to make up for the unpaid share of taxes by the multi billionaires, who are assisted and enabled by the GOP to hide their money.

While your lack of contribution for women's health will directly affect women's health negatively, multi billionaires will be just fine in every single way if people stop paying their taxes for them

ACA's contraceptive coverage is key bc it ensures no co-pay coverage for women who cannot afford health care. The upfront cost of IUDs which are considered the most effective contraceptive is $500 to $900 for the device plus $150 to $250 for insertion. As this cost is out of reach for most women they will naturally opt for no contraception which will skyrocket unwanted pregnancies. This in turn will increase abortion rates say by 50% w/ the remaining 50% carrying to full term but turning to medicaid for help

And birth control is not just for controlling birth. Many women, on their doctors' advice use contraceptives to treat painful conditions like endometriosis. IUDs and birth control pills ease cramps and manage bleeding

The ACA also provides guaranteed access to maternity coverage. If women lose this, they will be forced to skip pre natal appointments to buy food instead. Poor maternity health increases the risk of spontaneous abortions ie miscarriages

Birth control not only lowers birth and abortion rates, it also empowers women to make their own decisions regarding family planning and the health of their children

So here's a at you for dismissing women's health as collateral damage in your war against the ACA

posted December 07, 2017 02:23 AM            

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Originally posted by jwhop:
You should most definitely pay your fair share for your defense, the defense of your family and the defense of the United States.

If you believe that oppresses you, then you have the option to make haste and emigrate.

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And you shld most definitely pay your share for the reproductive health of the women of your country, and therefore the health of american families, and the health of the United States.

If you believe that oppresses you, then you have the option to lose the unholy expectation that women shld produce healthy babies who will grow up to defend the collective butt of the GOP

posted December 07, 2017 03:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
I shouldn't be forced to buy health insurance that I don't want or need, much less that I would never be able to use!

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posted December 07, 2017 05:34 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Listen up! I shouldn't be forced to buy health insurance that I don't want or need, much less that I would never be able to use!

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posted December 07, 2017 11:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
The repeal of the ACA mandate was mentioned.

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Aah got it. You're replying to teasel who asked what your thumbsdown post has to do w/ me or the thread...

Funny how you become a bull in a china shop at the mere mention of the ACA.

That you burst in ready to give thumbsdown to anyone discussing the ACA, is a measure of how much perspective you lose and your lack of concern abt how the loss of the ACA mandate will impact women and future generations in our country

But if the exact same ACA had been spearheaded by the GOP (wishful thinking i know, bc since when has the GOP ever cared abt women's health)...but had it been mandated by the GOP, you wld be alternately defending it vehemently and cooing from sipping the party hate/divisiveness koolaid

posted December 07, 2017 12:44 PM            

If you believe that oppresses you, then you have the option to make haste and emigrate.

Lol. Defense is one of the most misused words in govt. Iraq was painted as defense by some elastic rationalization still unexplained. We are not in a defensive action anywhere but we sure have stored up a bunch of hostility.

Defense is when someone comes after you and you fend them off.

posted December 07, 2017 03:18 PM            

One pile of sh*t is actually helping women who cannot afford their health care instead of abandoning them

The other pile of sh*t has a history of preying on women and child girls

I think nuff said abt your support...and plz don't drag in the innocent until proven guilty bit, bc over the years alabama has convicted men w/ far less circumstantial evidence than what surrounds roy moore, smth that roy moore is very aware of

I get it that you're a party man above evything else, was confused at first, but not anymore. Your stance on roy moore has cleared the fog

Not sure what women have done for you to be so dismissive of their needs and so inherently suspicious of them...but whatever