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shura
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posted November 28, 2018 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hahahahha

gosh I love you


I'll say p*ssy next time

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Catalina
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posted November 29, 2018 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No need to fudge it just say ***** 😉 the censor will do the rest

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posted November 29, 2018 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by shura:

I want decent Americans to win this fight.


At the moment, you're on the wrong side. The decent Americans aren't with trump.

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teasel
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posted November 29, 2018 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
It sounds so, so um, suburbanite crunchy


It isn't. As far as I know, it's a name given to men who like to watch their wives have sex with other men. So I think it means they're weak, can't get it up, etc. I don't know the exact meaning, just the first part of it. Some are given the label, even if they don't partake in what it actually means.

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posted November 29, 2018 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
No need to fudge it just say ***** 😉 the censor will do the rest

Yep. Only the POTUS is allowed to say ***** , and revel in the fact that he grabs them without permission.

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posted November 29, 2018 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Yep. Only the POTUS is allowed to say ***** , and revel in the fact that he grabs them without permission.

That's not what Trump said. Of course, you know that but the truth doesn't matter to rabid leftists.

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Catalina
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posted November 29, 2018 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear have we rewritten what he said already? How history flies these days! What do you think he said, jwhop?

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Catalina
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posted November 29, 2018 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop:
Cat is trying to compare peaches and sour grapes. 

So you think a smooth faced young woman is a peach -and ab elderly woman is s sour grape... charming, but the only thing i was comparing were their excuses when caught fudging personal/ political communications.. -and how one is painted guilty because she is a "sour grape" the other, being a peach, must be innocent. Presumed being the operative word.

Shura:
I dont strive to pervert its people with filth and degeneracy as the Left does.

Filth, degeneracy, sodom.. are you referring to LGBT rights .. or what? And what makes you so much holier than anyone else? You use religious backup a lot for your stance, but what sort of religion is it?

Some people consider the pursuit of financial success above all as filth and degeneracy... even religious people in some cases

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shura
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posted November 29, 2018 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LGBT+ rights. jfc. What am I referring to? I'm referring to the Progressive hive's lightning speed descent into perversion and anarchy.

Cat, tell me you're ignorant here, please. Because this 'let's pretend we're all Kennedy Liberals' crap is tiresome but I'd prefer it to the alternative.

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Catalina
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posted November 29, 2018 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think when you use words like sodom and perversion a little clarification might be helpful. I don't belong to any hive despite the efforts of a couple of members here to lump me in with the worst examples of leftism. Nor do i refer back to Scripture to validate my pov. Left is a pretty broad spectrum including a big chunk of middle ground..and even so i don't "belong" to any group.

So.. what perversions are you assuming everyone knows what you mean?

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pire
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posted November 30, 2018 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you cat to help me understand what I failed to understand about shura's way with words and ideas.

I usually can't really understand her, though I speak and read english, I often get her words but not always the meanings, the inuendos.

The right nationalist are wolfes in sheep's cothing. And they all share the same understandings that eludes the rest of us, the progressives. That is how they distinguish themselves by creating a "us" versus "them" while pretending to be the average normal people that are themselves being unwilling outcast of a progressist group that separate themselves from the people.
Another example, when saing "nationalist", all of them understanding "white"...

Fighting their ideas means unveiling their comunication techniques. Otherwise the fight is uneven. And they regonize themslelves by the fact that they employ those comunication tactics

In political science in the 20s century emerged post colonialism and post modernism, essentially based on critical theory. Now it seems a new way of analizing the political environment would be needed, something like this is post truth, or post comunication perhaps. Facinating. I am perhaps a bit in advance, and not into the field so in my mouth it is not scientific, but there really is something going on in there that looks like it.

However on the front of ideas, they all recycle old, tried and tested ideas.

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iQ
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posted November 30, 2018 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMHO, Any person who hates LGBTs is a closet Nazi, who will commit mass murder against them given adequate power.
It is so clear that LGBT is a Genetic Condition and not some deliberate perversion.
They are the nicest of human beings.
I actually pity those who hate them.


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posted November 30, 2018 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am still confused as to whether shura considers LBGT rights a perversion or that the jfc meant she doesn't care. Hence my request for what perversion means to her.

The values on which this country was founded excluded many people from the rights laid out. Free property owners could vote- not Natives who never laid possessive claim to land and were considered "execrable savages".. three were a few free black landowners but i don't know if they were able to claim their rights early on either. That particular issue has been back and forth and back again..

So what is perversion and how is the party reviled for too much legislation and regulation pushing anarchy?

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

oooh Am I on trial for wrongthink, Madame Inquisitor?

Cat, I think your immediate default to LGBTTQQIAA+ rights, when I named no such thing, says much about you and your Party. It somewhat proves the claim that the Progressive Left's public platform has devolved to a largely sex based one, and always reliant on a oppressor/victim dynamic.

What's your idea of 'rights' in this context, cat? What rights are infringed on, and how should we remedy this? Gay rights can mean anything from sodomy laws to "bake the cake, bigot!" So be specific.

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Catalina
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posted December 01, 2018 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I merely asked you to clarify yourself shura. The counterattack is hardly necessary. When you use the word sodom gay sex is one of the things that comes to mind, yes.

Can you not just answer the questions without the preemptive blitz?

Your meaning when you talk of sodom, perversion -and anarchy is far from clear. Is that your intention or do you care to be understood? I have accused you of nothing.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iQ:
IMHO, Any person who hates LGBTs is a closet Nazi, who will commit mass murder against them given adequate power.
It is so clear that LGBT is a Genetic Condition and not some deliberate perversion.
They are the nicest of human beings.
I actually pity those who hate them.


Good grief. The notion that a particular sexual preference reliably indicates niceness is so ridiculously dumb I'm at a loss to respond. Let's just say if that preference is genetic, and the gene also affects personality, we're stepping into a mighty river of pre PC race studies, IQ. You'll be quoting Gunther soon.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Catalina:
I merely asked you to clarify yourself shura. The counterattack is hardly necessary. When you use the word sodom gay sex is one of the things that comes to mind, yes.

Can you not just answer the questions without the preemptive blitz?


It's not an attack, it's an observation. You are not a victim and I am not oppressing you. I am asking you to clarify the question.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pire:
Thank you cat to help me understand what I failed to understand about shura's way with words and ideas.

I usually can't really understand her, though I speak and read english, I often get her words but not always the meanings, the inuendos.


Pire, my guess is your difficulty in understanding me is simple. You're trying to fit me into a right wing "Trumpette" box, with all of its preassigned positions and perspectives. e.g. "you hate gays!"
I don't live in that box. I don't fit in it. I almost certainly have a darker assessment of the Trump admin than those with not much more to offer than the typical "he's a mean nazi racist" knee jerk hysteria.

Regarding code, I don't speak in code regarding political matters. Ever. If I want to say White nationalist you can bet your last buck I'll say White nationalist. I've no fear of the term. Further, who in the heck would I be speaking this supposed alt right code to? There aren't any alt right proponents here. Rather than jumping to the popular dog whistling accusation, let's stop and really think clearly about what we are saying.

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Catalina
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posted December 01, 2018 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The question is clear enough and stated several times now. You refer to perversion, sodom and anarchy but there is no indication of what you mean by those terms. It's impossible to address your assertions when they are just vague negative terms.

Of course I am not a victim! Nor am I Madame Inquisitor nor a representative for The Left who can clarify for you what others aims are.

It is you who complain that the perverted left are "winning" and your quips do seem to imply that everyone to the left of the right is an evil radical.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat, I can't tell you if I support LGBT+ rights until you tell me what rights are being infringed and how you propose we remedy it. The term is too broad. Give me just one example.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'll check back later for that example, cat. But I'll be off the interwebs from tonight till after Christmastide. So if Madame I. wishes to pick my brain she'll need to do it asap.

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posted December 01, 2018 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im sorry.. where did i say anything about rights being infringed? I asked what you meant by sodom and perversion.. and, as you added it, anarchy.

If you don't care to be clear that's an end to it for me, as im tired of repeating the same question over and over again. You may think you're being clear but what's clear to me is several people are left in the dark about what you mean

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posted December 01, 2018 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat, maybe we are talking over each other here. To review, you questioned my support of LGBT rights. I dont know how you pulled that topic from my post - though it is typical of the Left to do so. I can only assume this is a matter of some importance to you, and that's fine, however I can't clarify my thoughts on LGBT rights specifically until you tell me how you define this impossibly broad term.

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shura
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posted December 01, 2018 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, if you're asking what precisely I find wrong with the Left in its present incarnation? Sure I can toss a few things on the table.

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posted December 01, 2018 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I too would like to know what lgbt rights have been infringed on.
I see the group as having more openness and protection than any time in history.

Cat, Sodom is/was a place not a sexual act referred to by shura. That`s a leap to = it to gays.

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