posted August 04, 2019 12:16 PM            

i never said anyone had a right to shoot people they think might be illegal not sure where you got that idea

technically no one has a "right" to shoot anyone outside of being a well regulated militia or in defense

that being said i'm aware most of the victims aren't illegals (again illegals were only brought into this because teasel posted an article about them)

anyway yeah people kill each other that's how **** goes sometimes, they do it without guns too even to settle arguments (though let's be real here it's chicago it's probably a lot more than just that)

guns are dangerous yeah, weapons often are that's their entire point

and of course people aren't always responsible and tragedies happen, but you can say the same about cars, and alcohol etc does that mean responsible adults should have a government come in and tell them "you can't have this because someone else did something wrong?" absolutely not

the fact that you want a nanny state like that is troubling to say the least

the constitutional right to life is technically for citizens (it being the constitution and all), and people who are murderers are jailed for it when they're caught so i'm not sure what that has to do with anything

i'm also not sure why you're bringing abortion up, because while i'm all for people stockpiling whatever weapons they choose i'm also pro-choice

i believe it's perfectly natural for a variety of species to kill their young, humans included and that's just the way people go about it

aside from that i really doubt a woman who is killing her unborn child is fully capable of being a mother so i see no reason to create future problems

and most importantly i don't think it's a government's right or responsibility to make that call for someone

i'm for very limited government personally, and as such i'm pro-choice by default

i don't see any difference between someone black using a gun responsibly and someone white doing the same (were you assuming i was both anti-abortion and racist for some reason? stereotyping me because i'm pro-gun? let me guess i'm also straight now too right? )

usually mass shootings are done by someone with a manifesto often political and have been brewing for some time

the media sensationalizes them because it pushes agenda always, if you think it's anything else you're lying to yourself because the media also pushes fake news for the same reason (along with cash being another reason)

i agree people should figure out why instead of blaming guns and taking away constitutional rights

maybe finding the root source would get **** actually done

posted August 04, 2019 12:22 PM            

look at that how did i know there was a manifesto without even reading any articles? it's almost like this is a textbook mass shooting

it's not trump's fault, it's the shooter

and if you're going to put blood on trump's hands then you should also put blood on the hands of the media for sharing a manifesto like that

because guess what? people with nothing to live for who have these ideals and are doing these killings know that their ideas are going to be spread

that's why they make it big, that's why it's a show

these are statements not just killings, they're essentially an act of war if you pay attention to the mindset

media makes martyrs and heroes out of mass shooters to the people who share their views while simultaneously making people who feel horrified of that scared enough to run to their government to give up rights (and take rights away from others) for protection

posted August 04, 2019 12:27 PM            

i'm just being realistic, i have a heart which is why i acknowledge the loss of individual life as tragic

i'm just also capable of objectivity and i can acknowledge that the loss of life will not be fixed by infringing on the second amendment

of course i'd be upset if someone i cared about died a horrible death, would that mean that i thought that action to violate the constitution should be called for though? no

just like if someone i love were to die in a car crash i wouldn't think cars should be banned

the reality is people have always killed each other, and likely always will it's just in our nature to do so

it's not something anyone likes because like you said no one wants to be killed or have that happen to someone they love but of course not, it's a given that no one wants to experience pain or tragedy on any level

however, that's not how the world works, and it's not heartless to acknowledge reality

posted August 04, 2019 12:36 PM            

Would you rather not know what’s going on?

Talk about risk of Tyrranny.

posted August 04, 2019 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
It’s the media’s duty to report what’s going on.

Would you rather not know what’s going on?

Talk about risk of Tyrranny.

You’re afraid of the wrong boogey men.

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i'm not afraid of the media, but i am pointing out the reality that the way things are reported is full of bias and also is why these people are motivated to do things on such a large scale

when a person has no will to live they're more free than anyone else to do what they want however they want, so some people choose to go out big and make a statement and the media that platform

do i think news should be reported? absolutely, but if you're going to blame trump you may as well blame the media too

personally i only place the blood on the shooter's hands you're the one pointing fingers elsewhere

i don't think the media should be infringed upon on a personal level, but does that mean that i'm unaware of why these mass shooters do things like that?

because they could be picking strategic locations to attack, they don't, instead they just attack people in places that get attention and typically have a manifesto that gets covered

posted August 04, 2019 12:47 PM            

US: 250
Mexico: 3
Canada: 1
Brazil: 1
Netherlands: 1
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
UK: 0
Australia: 0
Spain: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
France: 0
http://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1157778933573492736

posted August 04, 2019 01:10 PM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
Mass shootings, 2019.

US: 250
Mexico: 3
Canada: 1
Brazil: 1
Netherlands: 1
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
UK: 0
Australia: 0
Spain: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
France: 0
http://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1157778933573492736

I updated the number, due to the time that it was posted. Yesterday evening, before the latest.

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posted August 04, 2019 01:38 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by teasel:
Mass shootings, 2019.

US: 250
Mexico: 3
Canada: 1
Brazil: 1
Netherlands: 1
Germany: 0
Italy: 0
UK: 0
Australia: 0
Spain: 0
Saudi Arabia: 0
France: 0
http://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1157778933573492736

I updated the number, due to the time that it was posted. Yesterday evening, before the latest.

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I don't understand the point of this list. Looking at it, I might conclude Mexico is a safe, non violent nation. And wouldn't that be silly.

No "mass shootings" in Germany? Phew! But last week a man was hacked to death with a sword on a public street while good, progressive Germans stood about watching helplessly.

posted August 04, 2019 04:05 PM            

All this is leading up to the Pluto Return phase for America, perhaps after that phase some common sense shall emerge.

posted August 04, 2019 04:26 PM            

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Originally posted by iQ:
Even 25,000 Mass Shootings a year with Assault Rifles will not deter Conservatives and Constitutionalists from insisting that 18th Century Gun based Gun Rights be protected for deadly Assault Rifles, bazookas etc.
It is not because Conservatives are evil, they will defend sales of Assault Rifles to every American in Court even if their own family got wiped out by a Mass Shooter. it is because that is the Karma of the USA, the Karma of Atlantis replayed: That the Powerful never have empathy for the masses.
Common Sense dictates that Gun Rights mean hand guns for self defence or guns in a highly regulated Militia. But Karma can override Common Sense most of the time.

All this is leading up to the Pluto Return phase for America, perhaps after that phase some common sense shall emerge.

Grace Under Pressure.

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i think price would regulate enough personally, and i think a well armed militia can't do **** with tiny guns when the military is allowed so much more

posted August 04, 2019 06:12 PM            

Most are the sons and daughters of the revolution. Many feel increasingly backed against a wall. Many are quietly watching their culture cave under an onslaught of foreign born customs and ideology. Many have noticed they are without political representation. And many are growing more restless. Juan and Apu are accustomed to being ruled. Thats fine, thats their karma and collective spiritual state. They will cheerfully relinquish a Bill of Rights that was never intended for nor claimed by them. The others will give "the powerful" a problem.

posted August 04, 2019 06:13 PM            

Idiotic!

posted July 07, 2023 08:25 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by teasel:
This guy was just given ninety life sentences. Why aren’t republicans talking about this? Because he was wound up into a rage, by pubbies pushing conspiracy theories?
http://www.reuters.com/legal/government/shooter-who-killed-23-t exas-walmart-sentenced-90-life-terms-2023-07-07/

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