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teasel
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posted August 21, 2019 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'I am the Chosen One': with boasts and insults, Trump sets new benchmark for incoherence
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/21/trump-press-conference-greenland-jewish-democrats

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posted August 21, 2019 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It was the greatest thing since sliced bread! President Trump MASTERFULLY controlled the media like Pied Piper.

For those who didn't see it and may be inclined to believe BS fake news, what President Trump was referring to is that someone had to take on China, and he's the one to do it. Yes, President Trump, I chose you!

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posted August 21, 2019 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol hes deranged

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posted August 21, 2019 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He sounded very coherent to me.

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posted August 21, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEp85qeMD9o

Watch it for yourself. Nothing deranged about it. Thank you, President Trump!

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posted August 21, 2019 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
It was the greatest thing since sliced bread! President Trump MASTERFULLY controlled the media like Pied Piper.

For those who didn't see it and may be inclined to believe BS fake news, what President Trump was referring to is that someone had to take on China, and he's the one to do it. Yes, President Trump, I chose you!


You actually scare me when you talk like this.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@randall thanks for linking the clip

i don't see what he said wrong here, the chinese economy has been allowed to grow too large from the standpoint of being a us citizen (at the end of the day whatever country you're in needs to come first) and in the past it was allowed to get to a point where it's become something to contend with

that's just factual, and it is better for the us to cut them down and them losing jobs and money is better for us and that's what has to be done

him calling himself the chosen one was just the way he gets attention, people will focus on that pull up a clip and hear the rest of what he said

he also later clarified by saying that he was "chosen" as in put in office

i don't like everything trump does or says, but he was perfectly coherent in the clip (i didnt see the larger speech been busy today) and i see no issue with what he's talking about either

economically china is a threat that needs to be dealt with and should have been dealt with before it got to this point

that doesnt sound good and obviously affects people there, but you know like he said "china is doing good for china" but the us has to worry about the us

@teasel all trump has to do is breathe and you'll get angry about it

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posted August 21, 2019 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Dumuzi.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what exactly do either of you think he said wrong here excluding him saying "i'm the chosen one" @teasel @blueroamer? i'm legit curious

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posted August 21, 2019 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you, Dumuzi.

no problem

i'm honestly looking forward to seeing how they pick apart what he said and try to paint it in a bad light

because it's so obvious why he yelled that out (it gets attention and now people will watch more clips) and then he was just 100% right so i can't really imagine what can be said against the actual content

"let china destroy our economy"

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posted August 21, 2019 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no problem

i'm honestly looking forward to seeing how they pick apart what he said and try to paint it in a bad light

because it's so obvious why he yelled that out (it gets attention and now people will watch more clips) and then he was just 100% right so i can't really imagine what can be said against the actual content

"let china destroy our economy"


I don't need to paint anything in a bad light, when it comes to the "stable genius". I'm not feeling well tonight, so you're out of luck.

The blind worship is seriously off-putting.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@teasel all trump has to do is breathe and you'll get angry about it


Wrong, and I'm not angry. It's same **** , different day.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They will find something wrong with it. I don't see how, though. Even Schumer said President Trump is right about China. Some prominent Dems are truly irrational in their hatred and are hoping for a bad economy, which, of course, would hurt American workers.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They will find something wrong with it. I don't see how, though. Even Schumer said President Trump is right about China. Some prominent Dems are truly irrational in their hatred and are hoping for a bad economy, which, of course, would hurt American workers.

Right, we're irrational with our legitimate concerns, but the man who lies every single day, your "stable genius" is perfect, not a thing wrong with him.

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posted August 21, 2019 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree the blind worship is a big red flag.

World Leaders should be held to the highest possible scrutiny.

This worship paves the way for fascism

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posted August 21, 2019 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/demoralizing-reality-of-life-under-trump.html?fbclid=IwAR1PitUlSF1hgL-mhOI2iPVfZoxDwn79HTX-by22TmeI_LzTOfxM1Bx5ayM

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posted August 21, 2019 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only blind worship being exhibited here is the left's unquestioning adulation for the fake news media and blindly believing what they tell them to believe without watching the clip for themselves.

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posted August 21, 2019 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't need to paint anything in a bad light, when it comes to the "stable genius". I'm not feeling well tonight, so you're out of luck.

The blind worship is seriously off-putting.


i've said before i'm not even a trump supporter i don't even fully support the us government as a system

however trump is 100% on point about china and everything he said in the clip i watched was correct

what's wrong with pushing china down so that the us can thrive economically? you're an american, you should absolutely support economic supremacy of america over another country

why would you want china to continue on the path it's on knowing that would ultimately **** over the country you're in you know the one filled people you love who youre scared of getting shot in one of those statistically unlikely mass shootings?

cutting china down as much as possible is the only option that makes sense

you dont have to like everything trump is or everything he does because i don't and i'm perfectly comfortable with criticizing him

like i didn't at all agree with what happened with bump stocks for example

i just want to know what he's saying about china and their economy specifically that's wrong, because that's what you posted about in the first place

if you get rid of that one sentence "i am the chosen one" what did he say that was inaccurate or out of line?

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posted August 21, 2019 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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http://slate.com/ news-and-politics/2019/08/demoralizing-reality-of-life-under-trump.html?fbclid=IwAR1PitUlSF1hgL-mhOI2iPVfZoxDwn79HTX-by22TmeI_LzTOfxM1Bx5ayM

this article is retarded first of all i'm puerto rican, cuban, and italian (as a result i'd count as latino in spite of most latinos considering me white due to largely spanish conquistador heritage,and my skin color) my grandparents/ great grandparents came here legally, learned the language and embraced the culture

i lose no sleep worrying about people being deported, and i don't see anything wrong with controlling immigration or the removal of illegal immigrants

so this article straight up is written like everyone of latino heritage has a bunch illegals in their family and is mexican which is funny considering how pc i bet they were trying to be

it's not like trump is making it so people can't come here at all, he's cracking down on illegal immigration and that's a good thing

when an illegal immigrant comes and takes up space in a hospital while a citizen suffers or takes a job that could go to an american or a legal immigrant that's a problem

yes it's sad that people choose to come here illegally and put their families at risk of being torn apart when they're discovered and deported, however everyone knows that's a potential consequence of being in a country illegally

it's unfair to make it seem as though these illegal immigrants have zero responsibility on the positions they put their families in by breaking the law

when i was on heroin i was really only hurting myself by using, but i knew if i got caught i could be arrested and jailed and that would've been the price for breaking that law (and i'm anti drug laws btw, think they should all be legal) and i bet some of the same people who have bleeding hearts for immigrants would've said "that's what happens when you get caught breaking the law" had i ended up in that position

well... in the case of illegal immigration that's what happens when you get caught breaking the law, it seems harsh but citizens of a country taking precedence over illegal immigrants is 100% the most intelligent way of running things

it's not like citizenship is impossible to achieve through the proper channels

this article's depiction of the latino community is absolutely repulsive and really capitalizes on using a minority group as a political point to make emotional statements

the ban on transgender soldiers makes legitimate sense because they require medication and it's better to have people who arent inhibited by medical issues in the armed forces not to mention there's a lot of comorbidity with depression and other issues that trans people face

that's not the sort of person you send out to war, it's not discrimination any more than not sending someone with severe anxiety and depression or physical disabilities etc out there

i say that as someone who is fully suppoetive and respectful of the transgender community, i see no problem with them seeking medical aid or using bathrooms etc and so on, but that doesnt mean they should be soldiers

who are these people losing so much sleep and where were they when obama was sending massive drone strikes and deporting people too?

also what surveys on mental health of the nation are they citing here exactly? how were conducted? it's such a dishonest way of using polling statistics that are clearly bias

i know plenty of people who dislike trump, but i don't know any of them who fit the sort of hysterical description of americans this article depicts

this is just straight up a trash article written solely based in opinion and emotion and it tries to play on people's feelings rather than say anything concrete or worthwhile

what does it prove ultimately? that some people (mostly women apparently) get hysterical over who's in office?

the initial post you made in this thread was about something he said while discussing his views on china and the economy, and i'm still waiting for you to say what's wrong with pushing them down and forcing them to negotiate deals that give us a better chance of economic success against their growth which has been rapid

rather than post emotion based articles that only serve the purpose of appealing to emotions void of logic why not talk about what trump said that was wrong in that clip outside of a sentence you disliked

again i'm not a trump supporter i dont believe the current system of government is what it should be at all, but the guy is ******* right about china

why not give credit where it's due or at least tell me what's wrong in trying to do something positive for this country's economy?

as an american you should be perfectly fine with doing what it takes to keep america in the best possible position it can be in economically and otherwise

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posted August 21, 2019 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"World Leaders should be held to the highest possible scrutiny."

High sounding words with which I agree.

So, if you agree with your own words, then:

Hillary The Corrupt should be in a federal prison...or, is Hillary The Corrupt excepted from your own rule?

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He cancelled a trip, because he can't buy Greenland?

I have nothing good to say to anyone who votes for him again next year. Nothing. This is the most ridiculous **** , and he does it every day. Every single day.

Also calling Jewish people disloyal, if they vote Democrat? I can't even... he is a racist SOB.

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posted August 22, 2019 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He cancelled a trip, because he can't buy Greenland?

I have nothing good to say to anyone who votes for him again next year. Nothing. This is the most ridiculous **** , and he does it every day. Every single day.

Also calling Jewish people disloyal, if they vote Democrat? I can't even... he is a racist SOB.


is this your way of saying he's right about china?

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Here's your ignorance of what racism is showing again. What about the hate espoused against Israel by some Dems who said some things? Where was your outrage when there was true racism? Instead, all we see from you is hypocrisy. Dems want to cut all funding to Israel! So, hell yes, any Jews who vote Democrat ARE either disloyal or uninformed--just as President Trump proclaimed.

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posted August 22, 2019 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Here's your ignorance of what racism is showing again. What about the hate espoused against Israel by some Dems who said some things? Where was your outrage when there was true racism? Instead, all we see from you is hypocrisy. Dems want to cut all funding to Israel! So, hell yes, any Jews who vote Democrat ARE either disloyal or uninformed--just as President Trump proclaimed.

to be fair funding should be cut to israel and to be even more fair israel shouldn't even exist to begin with

jewish loyalty in america should be to america not israel to begin with

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posted August 22, 2019 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is more supportive of Israel, Democrats or Republicans? The Jewish people should not vote Democrat, and the 2020 election will see such a shift.

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