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juniperb
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posted March 19, 2020 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a serious subject and should be treated as serious.

We are all in this together and need to clearly identify opinion vs facts.

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teasel
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posted March 19, 2020 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
This is a serious subject and should be treated as serious.

We are all in this together and need to clearly identify opinion vs facts.


I've been treating it seriously. I haven't left the house since Saturday, don't even know if I should go for a walk, my dad is out there delivering packages that could be covered in this virus. I don't know if other people are being safe around him. He doesn't get sick leave, and has no insurance - he has the VA clinic (I have nothing). We can't afford to stock up on a lot of things, and don't know what will happen to us in the near future.

I'm anxious, and need to do something, so I'm sharing links for bread recipes, and movie parties.

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hypatia238
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posted March 19, 2020 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by juniperb:
This is a serious subject and should be treated as serious.

We are all in this together and need to clearly identify opinion vs facts.


I am taking this subject very seriously. The opinions in the article I stated are well educated opinions and with something so novel this is the best you can hope for as all the data gets gathered and interpreted.

I created this thread to bring everyone together about something that is affecting us all and to have a discussion about it in general including astrological input relevant to it and things that are helpful in keeping our immunological systems strong and how to stay safe, discussions do involve opinions that is what discussions are essentially.

Thread should have not been closed period.

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iQ
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posted March 20, 2020 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excess Vitamin C, Turmeric and Herbacetin will help anyone escape death from COVID-19.

These are the best immunity boosters against Virus. The trick is to boost immunity before the lung damage occurs.

Let us Never give up hope.

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hypatia238
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posted March 20, 2020 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Excess Vitamin C, Turmeric and Herbacetin will help anyone escape death from COVID-19.

These are the best immunity boosters against Virus. The trick is to boost immunity before the lung damage occurs.

Let us Never give up hope.


Thank you IQ!

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posted March 20, 2020 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Colloidal silver -- don't drink it... but clean mouth and nose with it when symptoms occur. external use only.

Also eat Oyster mushrooms or any good ones out there effective against virus.

for the cost conscious , learn to grow your own mushrooms

Try to make use of Vinegar. Lets say add it to your rice when cooking it.

Add Balsamic vinegar on your dressing.

do moderate exercise.
Most importantly -- get a good nights sleep and stay away from Electronics if u can to build ur immune.

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iQ
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posted March 20, 2020 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have read that Apple Cider Vinegar is the best option in Vinegar.

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Randall
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posted March 20, 2020 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From National Geographic: Article on the power of soap and how UV radiation kills it:
[URL=http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/why-soap-preferable-bleach-fight-against-coronavirus/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=crm-email::src=ngp::cmp=editorial::add=SpecialEdition _2020]http://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/03/why-soap-preferable-bleach-fight-against-coronavirus/?cmpid=org=ngp::mc=crm-email::src=ngp::cmp=editorial::add=SpecialEditio n_2020[/URL] 0320&rid=2E9692AF74D24098480805014304C926

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posted March 20, 2020 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Video of Alton Brown from the Food Network: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tIwdf3WKe3Y

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posted March 20, 2020 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That video explains the science behind how soap destroys the virus, and how hand sanitizer isn’t as effective.

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hypatia238
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posted March 22, 2020 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
That video explains the science behind how soap destroys the virus, and how hand sanitizer isn’t as effective.

Thank you! Thank god for Soap.

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Randall
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posted March 22, 2020 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Soap rips the virus apart by the same scientific principles that separate certain salad dressings. Science!

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Mystic~Melody
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posted March 22, 2020 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic~Melody     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Illinois update, we ordered some things from grocery online yesterday and he went out to to pick them up today. Our state is on stay at home orders and we are only to leave to get essentials such as a groceries and medical. Businesses all closed except food and gas basically.
When ordering from grocery you search for an item and about four items appear at the top that may be your item or something similar or not even similar. The rest of the page is grey-out items that are not in stock. You then must choose which items you will allow them to make substitutions for in the even they are gone before your order is picked and put in a cart.
Since most was not in stock chose about $100 worth of groceries. Two things were replaced with similar items and about 6 things were removed from list and listed as not in stock. No toilet paper available so I chose non-perfume wipes just in case, but those were one of the items removed from my list as they were gone before my order was "picked". Canned tomatoes and cheese also removed with no reasonable substitutions available.

It is currently snowing here. Supposed to get nicer next week.

My health seems ok though I had a pinched nerve for a week which may have increased my other symptoms. I don't think we had it afterall, though I kind of wish we had so if it had gotten serious for any of us, we would have been able to go to the hospital when respirators were still available. I worry about the coming weeks and wonder what Mars will add to the mix tomorrow when he meets up with the big boys in the sky.

I hope you all are doing well in your little parts of the world and please update us on what is going on in your neck of the woods.

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teasel
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posted March 22, 2020 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We now have a stay-at-home order, starting tomorrow night. I wanted to get some vegetable plants in, but we just missed Lowe’s, so we’re going back home. There are a lot of people at the Target. It almost looks like a normal Sunday evening.

My dad is hoping that his deliveries will still be considered essential. He delivers mail bags, and other things, but I’ve just realized some of those businesses might be closing. he’s afraid he might be laid off tomorrow.

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hypatia238
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posted March 23, 2020 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fist recorded case of Coronavirus was on December 1 2019 on this day I see this happening transit wise..

December 2019:
Saturn conjunt Pluto.
Saturn sextile NEPTUNE

January 2020:
Neptune Semi-square Uranus (unexpectedly spreading to other parts of the world)*Kannon pointed this transit out
Saturn conjunt Pluto
Neptune septile Saturn (fork in the road, how we chose to respond to the now global crisis)

March 2020:
Saturn conjunt Pluto
Jupiter starts to conjunct Pluto and joins cappy stellium, making situation escalate further and world starting to really take notice, leaders start to act more aggressively with trying to contain spread, this starts to impact commerce and business more, businesses shut down, people are instructed to stay home.

Septiles are fork in the roads and have to do with character development. Is the 7th harmonic and is a very fated spiritual aspect.

This septile in January may have more to do with a fork on the road in the context of how the world will chose to respond to this crisis and this will impact our character development and spiritual growth collectively and in turn our future.

January 19, 2020
Neptune Septile Saturn 1.03 orb
Saturn conjunt Pluto

^Thoughts: How do we respond to this crisis? Saturn (fear, scarcity thinking, survival mode) or Neptune (faith, kindness and compassion)? Perhaps we chose to respond with Caution (saturn) to serve values connected to Neptune the higher octave of love (universal love, protecting each other, valuing life and the life of one another)?

I feel we chose to respond to crisis with caution but to serve the Neptunian values of universal love, I remember feeling good about this and pleasantly surprised with how the world CHOSE to respond and feeling proud of humanity. Its an aspect that highlights the concern of survival (saturn) but in a collective way (neptune) and the septile is testing us by putting us in a fork in the road and asking us "how are you going to handle this collectively?."

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hypatia238
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posted March 23, 2020 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
January 19 2020 Transit

"Saturn septile Neptune: Inspired by the combination of control and restraint with idealism, caringness and mystical significance; inspired by the idea of self-abnegation in the cause of humanity; able to express this creatively, depending on other aspects."
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/septile-7th-harmonic.php

This septile will happen again exact July 20, 2020 during a new moon in Cancer.

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teasel
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posted March 23, 2020 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn inconjunct Neptune natally. So, you get both with me.

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hypatia238
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posted March 27, 2020 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trying to keep the Coronavirus thread on Astrology 2 astrology centered as much as possible. Putting this here instead:

Evidence suggesting the Chinese government is hiding the true extent of the coronavirus outbreak is mounting.
Exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui says that the government is cremating 1,200 corpses a day in Wuhan alone.
Guo claims the government will install as many as 1.4 million portable incinerators across China to cremate coronavirus victims.

Official data indicate that the Communist Party of China (CPC) has successfully contained the coronavirus outbreak. But evidence suggesting that the CPC is lying keeps mounting. Even the CDC now believes China is severely underreporting the data.
http://www.ccn.com/coronavirus-exiled-billionaire-says-china-burning-1200-bodies-a-day/

China has over 2 billion people the numbers reported don't add with how extremely large is their population.

There are 60 million people in Italy (Google)
*JH reports 8,215 deaths in Italy

There are 1.38 billion in China (Google)
*JH reports 3,169 deaths in China

I am sorry but this makes it clear to me that CHINA is lying about their numbers, they have way way way more people than Italy and yet are reporting A LOT less deaths?, China is overpopulated and in the cities they live super compacted, it doesn't add up even if they all wear masks and don't touch each other ever. Lets remember they lied when this whole thing started and tried covering it up.

On a very positive note the US seems so far to be doing a good keeping death rates low compared to China and Italy.

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posted March 28, 2020 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^

Hypathia, are you aware that the linked article is more than a month old? It was updated last on February 24, 2020.

Do you happen to have anything more current on China?

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hypatia238
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posted March 28, 2020 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^

Hypathia, are you aware that the linked article is more than a month old? It was updated last on February 24, 2020.

Do you happen to have anything more current on China?



Yes I am aware, China basically stopped reporting new cases a while ago.

"Massive deliveries of urns in Wuhan have raised fresh skepticism of China’s coronavirus reporting.

As families in the central Chinese city began picking up the cremated ashes of those who have died from the virus this week, photos began circulating on social media and local media outlets showing vast numbers of urns at Wuhan funeral homes.

China has reported 3,299 coronavirus-related deaths, with most taking place in Wuhan, the epicenter of the global pandemic. But one funeral home received two shipments of 5,000 urns over the course of two days, according to the Chinese media outlet Caixin."
http://nypost.com/2020/03/28/shipments-of-urns-in-wuhan-raise-questions-about-chinas-coronavirus-reporting/

^That article is from today.

To have drastically more people than Italy and drastically report a lot less deaths than Italy is already evidence IMO they are lying, statistically the numbers don't make sense, the number of deaths to population ratio they reported in comparison to the number of deaths to population ratio reported in other countries related to Coronavirus fatalities does not add up.

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posted March 29, 2020 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^

Thanks! However, NYpost website freezes my computer so I will not go there.

I did search and found a Bloomberg article that gave me more current info about the doubts raised. Those doubts are legitimate and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of a coverup. But an extensive coverup, I dunno. By lifting the lockdown and quarantine of Wuhan, wouldn't the Chinese risk spreading the disease uncontrollably throughout the entire country and killing millions of them? that would seem too great a risk to take with little positive benefits. So i am not convinced.

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posted March 29, 2020 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^

NY post website freezes my computer so I will not go there. I did search and found a Bloomberg that gave me more current info about the doubts raised.

Those doubts are legitimate and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some kind of a coverup. But by lifting the lockdown and quarantine, wouldn't they risk spread of the disease throughout the country and killing millions of people? that doesn't make sense to me.


I copied the section so you can read it without going to the link.

Like I mentioned in the post even the CDC believes that the numbers China is putting out there are wrong

People can't be on lock down forever, this started Dec 1, 4 months ago.

"Wuhan is the city in China where the coronavirus is thought to have originated. People who live there have been under lockdown for more than 50 days."
http://www.npr.org/2020/03/13/815307800/how-are-wuhan-residents-coping-mentally-after-7-weeks-of-quarantine

There comes a point that in spite of the risk of spreading you realize you can only try to control this for so long and keep people on lock down for so long.

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posted March 30, 2020 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dow is going up!

FDA approves emergency use of malaria pill for COVID-19 treatment

Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius at Aries point: Transit of hope of things changing with this crisis!?

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posted March 30, 2020 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Como promotes a drug with promise for wuhan flu he's good, brave, a leader, finding solutions. When Trump has hope in the exact same drug, he's without evidence, he's dangerous, it's unproven. He's bad man no matter what.

Prove of Media Bias:

Como (D) gets the red carpet for chloroquine : http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinical-trials-coronavirus-treatments-begin-york/story?id=69777957

They spent the last week trying to make Trump look insane for a promising treatment, so now that it's approved we are seeing dozens of headlines like : "FDA authorizes widespread use of unproven drugs to treat coronavirus, saying possible benefit outweighs risk" , "There’s scant evidence so far for chloroquine as a COVID-19 drug", "Without data, but with Trump praise, FDA issues emergency nod for chloroquine in COVID-19."

It's the same old "without evidence" scam, but with 30+ million doses rolling out, they are going to be married to the drug needing to be bad no matter what, because Trump can never be right about anything.

Is good we found a treatment for something else that is promising for coronavirus as we have data on it and how people react to it, with a brand new drug there will be more risks. This is good news but the media has to frame it as bad to make Trump look bad.

Nothing he does can be framed in a positive way but if someone from the left does the same thing they are heroes!

But the media is not biased at all...

Astrology: Trump's Tr Neptune falls in his 7H (house of open enemies) which overlaps with the USA's chart 3H (the media) which has pisces intercepted in there. He also has aquarius on his DC with Uranus ruler of the DC conjunct his Sun.

The 7H is open enemies and things that are out of our control were others hold the power, external outside forces out of your control.

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