posted January 28, 2020 09:05 PM            

This corona virus is not just another corona virus or like the influenza, its more serious, if you pay attention to how China is dealing with it and how quickly is spreading you can get a sense of how serious this is. I chose to not worry about it bc is not in my control anyways.

Then you hear about Tsunami and earthquakes happening around the same time...

Is Transit Saturn conjunct Pluto (it rules death and is a generational planet after all) trying to wipe out a significant portion of the earth population?

posted January 28, 2020 09:19 PM            

But yes, when we understand that Capricorn is an Earth, Cardinal, and Universal/collective Sign (a very potent combination) i.e. a Sign of potential, powerful material change in the world that can affect the many, and Saturn Pluto conjunction is potent and intense in and of itself, but in Capricorn at the same time...

posted January 28, 2020 11:46 PM            

A friend of mine, who is an acupuncturist, usually manages to knock them out the first day, with a higher dose of Vitamin D. http://www.lisameyerson.com/blog/come-in-from-out-of-the-cold-and-flu?fbclid=IwAR2gDjYxJCEiRkaUn4sTYGcYuUR8Z2eS41tnER4_7EDgSxV02fN-vtueMJE But she knows what she's doing, and knows where her Vitamin D level is.

posted January 29, 2020 10:27 AM            

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People that are not directly involved will get caught in the middle but isn’t the whole purpose of reproduction to teach younger generations to do better and thus making it a collective effort? We ALL fit in the bigger puzzle and thus we ALL need to take responsibility. Sadly, there are too many that only think “it’s not happening in my hood so why care??!!”. Problem is: that “hood” will fall under the knife because someone else, 5000 miles, had the exact the same thought..

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posted January 29, 2020 12:55 PM            

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I don't know. It seems like there is always something to worry about. I'm not feeling so good tonight, so I've been half-asleep, just resting. I need to start taking my vitamin D again, and the vitamin C. I'm eating my turmeric soup that's been a favourite for the last few years, will be making chicken soup when I feel up to it, so that it will be there, or in the freezer, if we need it. I always wash my hands well. If I get sick, it's usually from my dad, who is out making deliveries all day, although I manage to avoid getting colds, a lot of the time.

A friend of mine, who is an acupuncturist, usually manages to knock them out the first day, with a higher dose of Vitamin D. http://www.lisameyerson.com/blog/com e-in-from-out-of-the-cold-and-flu?fbclid=IwAR2gDjYxJCEiRkaUn4sTYGcYuUR8Z2eS41tnER4_7EDgSxV02fN-vtueMJE But she knows what she's doing, and knows where her Vitamin D level is.

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Turmeric soup sounds good and like a great idea!

posted January 29, 2020 01:09 PM            

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Well, well, well, I see you have come to the dark side... LOL ; )

But yes, when we understand that Capricorn is an Earth, Cardinal, and Universal/collective Sign (a very potent combination) i.e. a Sign of potential, powerful material change in the world that can affect the many, and Saturn Pluto conjunction is potent and intense in and of itself, but in Capricorn at the same time...

Event wise, it can correlate with some pretty difficult, intense, and/or testing challenges.

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Hey lol

Well I like how you broke it down.

posted January 29, 2020 01:09 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Well, well, well, I see you have come to the dark side... LOL ; )

But yes, when we understand that Capricorn is an Earth, Cardinal, and Universal/collective Sign (a very potent combination) i.e. a Sign of potential, powerful material change in the world that can affect the many, and Saturn Pluto conjunction is potent and intense in and of itself, but in Capricorn at the same time...

Event wise, it can correlate with some pretty difficult, intense, and/or testing challenges.

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Hey lol

Well I like how you broke it down.

posted January 29, 2020 01:49 PM            

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Hey lol

Well I like how you broke it down.

I do feel in the end everything happens for a reason and death is not a bad thing but we as humans are scared of death. I am the first one to say that I am 36 and want to live a full life and not living a full life is tragic IMO but I have to have faith that order is born out chaos and that this could be happening bc the earth needs to go through a cleansing of sorts to make the way for something better as painful and tragic as this ends up playing out.

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Your intuition is correct, but we have not seen even a 100th of what is to come in the near to near future as to collective challenges.

My spiritual reawakening that began at age 12, got catalyzed initially by receiving guidance about the Earth changes that are in development and will someday climax/crescendo towards a complete and total breakdown of all that humanity has built up.

This information/guidance downloading started off very generalized and vague at first, but over the next 28 years, would become more and more detailed, specific, and with me understanding more and more of what's going on, why, how it all fits together, etc.

As to the physical, it is 3 part Cosmic-Solar-Earth event. I haven't figured out exactly everything, but our systems connection to the Galactic Core is and has been changing, and we are starting to cross the Galactic Core current sheet.

Just as the Sun has a current sheet that the Earth passes through every 2 weeks and which produces geo-electro-magnetic effects in the Earth (especially when coupled with strong Solar wind, a CME, etc), the Galactic Core (on a much more massive and intense level) also has a current sheet that is much more massive and our little system only passes through once in a great while. On top of that, the Galactic Core may have already "erupted" in a Galactic Core type CME but on a scale and intensity MUCH, MUCH greater than that of the Suns or any Stars, and that this wave that is traveling at the speed of light (hence we can't see it ahead of time, until it actually arrives), may be on it's way.

Either way, crossing the Galactic Current sheet and/or a Galactic Core burst and resulting wave, can and will have similar affects on our Sun, stimulating it to go into a mini-novae state temporarily.

Basically frying about 2/5ths of the Earth, and also further catalyzing the crustal shifting process here that is under way, and has been under way since 1936 according to Cayce, which is why we are now seeing the changes in the magnetic poles and in magnetic field's field intensity (these seem to be signs that we have been getting closer and closer to the Galactic Current Sheet for awhile now, but probably not within the full intensity of it).

So, it's going to be one wild ride for awhile. But these things happen every 12, 000 or so years in a rather cyclic way, and modern humans have survived the last 15 or 16 so similar events, and we will survive this coming one. A number of our ancestors speak similarly about past events, and blaming that friqquen, melodramatic Sun of ours on the colossal destruction that ensued. If you understand these cycles, then you will understand sites like Gobekli Tepe and why they were made. Underground for some areas of the globe were the only safe places.

So first, major Solar outburst that will take down the electrical grid and fry parts of the earth (caves, underground, etc will be the best places for those in), and then followed shortly after by a crustal shifting, wherein most of the outer crust of the earth slides over the mantle. And then, unfortunately a major cooling of the global climate. (These larger cycles and drivers are behind the recurrent Ice Ages and occasional, briefer thawings that happen).

The better news than that humanity has survived some 15 or 16 of these so far, is that guidance has shown me, those who survive this, will most likely get their collective spiritual shite together, finally start to really and fully love themselves and one another, love and respect the Earth and creation in general, and start to co-create a true heaven/paradise on Earth with a big ole sign everywhere, "No psychopaths allowed to come to power and start the same old, same old b.s. again". These future peoples will be a lot more consciously psychic and intuitive and will not be so easily bamboozled by these anymore (cough cough, high level politicians, CEO, heads of major banks, etc, etc)

Meanwhile during these times there will be increasing, public/overt contact with our positive ET friends. First group to come in are my homeboys, who have been watching over the earth and humanity since it's inception. A very nice and very cool group of folks, very attuned to Love, positive service to others, and to Source but still in connection with physical bodies (well, sort of, their bodies are at a faster vibration than ours, more akin to our "etheric" level).

These different positive ET groups will be giving us helpful information and tips, especially as the more and more we show ourselves ready for such knowledge. This will range from spiritual/energetic knowledge and tips, to physical energy generation, how to make our own time/space traveling spacecraft, etc.

Basically, in the long term, probable future, everything looks rather bright. But to get there will be a rather bumpy ride to put it mildly.

Like my teacher who Bob temporarily and humorously labeled "He/She", I hope I have amused and confused y'all with seeming contradictions...

P.S., how much longer is this Saturn Pluto conjunction supposed to last for?

posted January 29, 2020 02:17 PM            

I highly suggest that you go to Youtube and look up "Suspicious Observers", as Ben covers, quite well, from a more science and data perspective, these cyclic events and drivers. He currently has 43 videos up that deal with these topics.

Here is a link to the full playlist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI&list=PLHSoxioQtwZfY2ISsNBzJ-aOZ3APVS8br

Y'all may think I'm joking or perhaps being over alarmist/extreme with all this, but riddle me this, why did the CIA back in the 1960's classify a book called "Adam and Eve: the History of Cataclysms" written by author Chan Thomas, which is all about a combo magnetic polar and also crustal shifting that takes place about every 12, 000 years and leads to global cataclysm and the decimating of the human population?

A book that once was publicly available pre their classification. Why does the CIA ever classify anything?

When you look at some of the evidence in the geology, and in the animal remains--it becomes very eye opening as to the severity of what occurs.

Take some of the Mammoths that were so quickly and thoroughly frozen solid that the flowers and leaves in their gut didn't yet start to putrefy and get digested.

Picture this, "Lalala I'm a Mammoth chomping on some flowers, (which obviously means it's not too cold out where I'm at). What the Hey Zuess is that flash in the sky!?! A few days later. Wait, ahhhhh GIANT wall of water, mud, and debris is coming my way, Run, Forest, Run! (A half day or so later, all that gets super frozen)"

Massive pelvis bones broken by the immense flooding, and then soon after the temps go so unbelievably below Arctic Cold, as to not only freeze them solid with these flowers still undigested in their guts, but freezing the mud and water they are encased in at the same time, perfectly encasing them in a cryogenic like tomb and time capsule. Think of the thermal mass involved in not just their large, warm bodies but all that mud and muck they are in, and how ridiculously cold it must have gotten and so quickly. Think Boyle's Law, once that Solar burst knocks out large parts of the atmosphere temporarily, and the rest of the gasses/air then rushing back in to re-equalize.

So first you have a super heating of the glaciers that lead to a massive flood, and then soon after you have a super freezing that makes typical winter temps in Antarctica look like summer vacay.

Effects, meet cause.

And now you see why underground property looks mighty attractive during these times. And which is why all the financial elites of the world from Bezos, the US gov., Musk, China, etc are all involved in either building and/or buying massive underground structures, and not for the reasons publicly stated.

posted January 29, 2020 02:32 PM            

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P.S., how much longer is this Saturn Pluto conjunction supposed to last for?

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Thanks for sharing your visions.

posted January 29, 2020 02:39 PM            

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If folks are interested in the more science and data side of all these big, cyclic changes, and less so psychic/guidance and spiritual oriented sourced takes on this.

I highly suggest that you go to Youtube and look up "Suspicious Observers", as Ben covers, quite well, from a more science and data perspective, these cyclic events and drivers. He currently has 43 videos up that deal with these topics.

Here is a link to the full playlist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_zfMyzXqfI&list=PLHSoxioQtwZfY2ISsNBzJ-aOZ3APVS8br

Y'all may think I'm joking or perhaps being over alarmist/extreme with all this, but riddle me this, why did the CIA back in the 1960's classify a book called "Adam and Eve: the History of Cataclysms" written by author Chan Thomas, which is all about a combo magnetic polar and also crustal shifting that takes place about every 12, 000 years and leads to global cataclysm and the decimating of the human population?

A book that once was publicly available pre their classification. Why does the CIA ever classify anything?

When you look at some of the evidence in the geology, and in the animal remains--it becomes very eye opening as to the severity of what occurs.

Take some of the Mammoths that were so quickly and thoroughly frozen solid that the flowers and leaves in their gut didn't yet start to putrefy and get digested.

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posted January 29, 2020 04:29 PM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ I think the dream of commune is just a ******* utopian dream, if the "good" people were so powerful, why not have the guts to take it now? Why does one have to wait for everyone to die off? You think people are gonna survive in paradise after the nuclear missiles hit, see Hirosima. People have been dying everywhere in the name of this and that , for goddam oil in some places (cough cough!... ) .....so whyy not take it now??

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You reminded me of the book and the show "The Leftovers". It has nothing to do with nuclear war, it's about an event similar to the rapture, only 140 million people just disappear into thin air, and not all of them were true believers. Religions die out, and are replaced by cults. People just try to continue with their lives. One woman lost her entire family.

posted January 29, 2020 10:48 PM            

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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Thanks for sharing your visions.

I know that Saturn will be in Aquarius at 1d this December 2020 so it seems that it will be a theme for 2020 but then will separate from Pluto for 2021.

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Thank you for the info Hypatia.

posted January 29, 2020 11:25 PM            

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I do believe that climate change is cyclic not man made but you cannot make money out of taxing people for this if is not man made, also it would not support this self-loathing humanity sucks vibe that some people seem to like to feed off of. I get the feeling the info you are sharing comes from a similar school of thought perhaps.

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Probably human CO2/pollution is contributing some to global climate change, but it seems the main driver is a long term cycle as outlined earlier. Here's the thing, and an known fact--back in the late 20's and early 30's, Edgar Cayce's guidance predicted global climate change towards of a trend of warming, and pinpointed it's start 3 decades ahead of time.

His guidance did not say anything about CO2/human pollution as being the cause, but rather linked it to an event to take place in 1936 wherein there would be an upheaval deep within the Earth that would shift (presumably the Earth's inner core if we're reading between the logic lines) the axial alignment of (the core) away from the north star Polaris.

We now know or strongly suspect that there is indeed a difference in the axial alignments between the inner, independently rotating core, and the rest of the Earth.

Many researchers strongly believe that the rotation of the largely iron core within the lubricating, liquefied magma, is what creates the magnetic field to begin with, not unlike an electric dynamo.

It stands to reason that if any changes happen to the inner core as to rotational speed, shifting position, or the like, then it would likely affect the magnetic poles and the overall magnetic field intensity. Hmmm, two things which indeed ARE changing and changing ever more rapidly as time progresses.

Changing so much and so fast, they had to reschedule the usual 5 year re-calibration, and do it quicker in order to get more accurate positions and data.

And despite the Sun being rather weak right now, and has been for awhile, space weather that 20, or even 10 years ago, wouldn't have phased us at all because of our magnetic field strength levels, are starting to cause definite issues and effects.

Point being, Cayce was right on the dot for both the global warming trend, and the shifting the poles "Or a new cycle begins" for around the year 2000. A new cycle DID begin then, and the speed of movement skyrocketed. Seriously, go look at charts of the speed of moment since they have been charting same. Especially the north magnetic pole, right around 2000, it greatly accelerates, changing the whole trend of the previous hundred plus years.

Now, climate change being solely or mostly caused by humans, seems to be one of the ways of not only profiting off us, but also covering up/redirecting our attention from the truly cataclysmic changes that are on our horizon that make human caused global warming and a couple to few degree warm up, look like a slow walk on a nice beach.

The majority of the plutocrats do NOT want us to be aware of these coming massive changes. The hope is that many of us commoners die off, so that it will be easy for them to just completely take over what's left of humanity and the resources here.

I mean, my partner has had very specific dreams of post collapse where people are being told to go to FEMA "safe" camps for food, water, and shelter, and she knew that this was a ploy and that these folks would end up slaves.

I've also had a dream of battles between resistance groups of us commoners with what's left of the plutocrats and their forces (apparently I die in one of these battles, but after my body is killed, I shoot up into a pure White Light state and then some interesting stuff happens).

Shite's gonna get real for real. We're talking a war over the fate of the Earth and humanity, and on one side you have a group of incarnated human helpers with their counterpart various positive ET groups, and on the side side you have the psychopathic plutocrat types with their psychopathic counterpart ET group. This war over the fate of humanity, has been going on for a very, very long time.

With all this said, there are a lot of well meaning researchers/scientists that sincerely believe that global climate change is likely either mostly or solely human caused. I can see what they believe this--it's logical when you're not looking at the really big picture.

But verified predictions are verified predictions wherever they come from, even if from a psychic source like Cayce. Science has had a long pattern of trending towards the myopic and overly narrow perspective, because it long has had beliefs connected to same that are just as fervent as held by any zealous religious folks. Such as reductionist materialism.

And unfortunately in science, there has always been a majority of Saturnian-Mercurial, conservative type scientists than the Uranian-Jupitarian pioneering, intuitive-imaginative, original perceiving, and fearless types. The latter are always scoffed at, minimized, hindered, etc by the former until the facts and evidence become undeniable.

Let's not even delve into the issues of funding and the increasingly unholy alliances between Universities and mega corporations, which is all too plain to see when it comes to medicine/pharmaceuticals, but unbeknownst to many, also permeates other mainstream areas of science and scientific research. (and there are some truly idiotic and ridiculously long lived theories that should die, but just won't, like dark matter, and when they can't find it, they change the definitions, meanings, and rules until it doesn't even remotely resemble the original).

Basically meaning, science is far from being pure in motivation or fully objective.

Well, that was quite a rant...

posted January 30, 2020 12:12 AM            

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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ I think the dream of commune is just a ******* utopian dream, if the "good" people were so powerful, why not have the guts to take it now? Why does one have to wait for everyone to die off? You think people are gonna survive in paradise after the nuclear missiles hit, see Hirosima. People have been dying everywhere in the name of this and that , for goddam oil in some places (cough cough!... ) .....so whyy not take it now??

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Hark ye brave defender of the plutocrats and the glorious system that they have in place.

If thou knewest what thou was spouting off about in the least bit, thou would knowest that rising up now would be a very bad idea mmmkay, that would lead to A LOT of unnecessary violent blood shed, and most likely the squashing of any revolution/rebellion movement.

I know someone that was involved with the Occupy Wall Street protests. In the late night hours of Halloween, while most were out and about celebrating same, they bulldozed the protesters camp, destroying tents, backpacks, etc.

Now, this was a fairly "soft" and largely peaceful protest (despite the paid instigators and provocateurs infiltrating same and trying to incite chaos, violence, etc). If the plutocrats actually felt their lives were in any real danger, well things would escalate quickly to make the Kent State event look fun and super laid back.

What's the point of that, when the Creative Forces via nature/cosmic forces will be leveling the whole playing field for us precisely because right now we are up the creek with no paddle?

What's the saying, work smarter, not harder. But, the time for battle will come, and pacifists like self will have to take up arms. No amount of Kumbyahhing will save or help us in those coming extreme times, and not even Yeshua will be advising to turn the cheek.

posted January 30, 2020 03:08 AM            

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^ I mean the ETs... just come in human form, pop up somewhere, get famous, get into politics( you'rr a godamn ET, figure a way out to find a way through with your high "intelligence" ... tsk tsk tsk...!)

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Lol, just not how it works AT ALL. Positive ET's greatly respect freewill. This is the human's school and class--they can't just come in and force change.

They can and do act as guidance for those that seek same.

They know we have to learn through our own mistakes and the suffering/consequence it brings to us. Unfortunately, this is the only way to really and truly learn--from direct experience, mistakes/errors, consequence/suffering.

Besides that, there is also the law of Like attracts, begets, resonates with, and likes Like in operation--which is very much related to the law of karma as well.

Because they are at such a fast vibratory rate, to become more consciously aware of them, and to attract them in, we have to raise our vibratory rates to better match/resonate with theirs.

And on a personal level, they don't particularly enjoy coming in here and being exposed to our consciousness fields/emnations. It literally HURTS them. They are extremely telepathic and psychically sensitive/aware. All this suffering, all this chaos, imbalance, selfishness is difficult for them to deal with.

When they do interact and communicate with humans, it's humans that have made an effort at balancing and raising up their energies.

Some of these have and are directly incarnating into human forms to help the uplifting process from the inside. To say that human life tends to be difficult in some ways for these, is a huge understatement. Many come to feel extremely lonely and misunderstood here. Many come with such degrees of developed empathy and psychic awareness that until they learn to damp things down, being immersed in humanity HURTS them and hurts them deeply.

posted January 30, 2020 02:10 PM            

Right now Mars, Jupiter, Pluto are parallel at 22-23° south declination. Fire planets are energizers and spur visible developments.

I choose not to worry about coronavirus because I'm in control of my bodily health and have all the prevention I need. Intuition is the best guide and it won't function for us while we're living in fear. And if you really want to easily boost your own general immunity to viruses, get some homeopathic Influenzinum. If this virus comes into my community at most I'll take a dose or two of it and continue on with my life.

As to when it will get easier, I've found transit orbs of 5.5° for such major aspects are pretty reliable when it comes to my chart. In mundane terms, maybe more. So when Saturn goes into Aquarius in March it will separate by 5°+, but ... after going Rx will be back in late Capricorn in applying conjunction to Pluto in July. Then it will go direct again in late September and slowly pull away. So in September when they are only 2.5° apart we could see some developments while Mars-Rx in late Aries squaring both Saturn & Pluto.

Then in November, Jupiter again joins Saturn & Pluto in late Capricorn for the continued triple conjunction into early December.

There is a lot that needs to be revealed, so Jupiter's role in this is very important.

Saturn & Pluto is the renewal of control, resetting the terms of power and empowerment; Jupiter sheds light and expands awareness of the dynamics of that.

As to the US, this triple conjunction takes place opposite US's natal Mercury in the 8th house, which will affect its dialogue and economics (especially while Uranus is square US natal Lunar Nodes from 5th house).

posted January 30, 2020 02:38 PM            

With that said, there are some truly challenging and difficult times, collectively on the horizon.

It would be well if more of us commoners/non plutocrat types, prepare more. I don't mean in buying gold, silver, and all that crap, but in storing necessity type resources and coming up with plans such as finding the closest caves, underground areas, etc, as well as learning to forage, make things from natural materials, how to filter water, how to hunt or at least shoot rifle or bow well (yes the largely vegan eating person is advocating this), etc.

Not for our own sake, (I mean, who wouldn't want a nice nonphysical vacation--I certainly look forward to one), but for the sake of the future of the earth.

The more people of good hearts and/or spiritual ideals survive, the more the very positive, probable future can and will unfold. Hence, if you are in the above category, at least try to survive for the sake of others/the collective.

posted January 30, 2020 03:26 PM            

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While it may be spreading rapidly, humans are generating an even wider span of fear around it even as most people and most doctors know actually little about it: Saturn-Pluto, yes, at least partly. I've been pointing to Saturn parallel Pluto for the past few years and this kind of aspect is a buildup to the conjunction. These two in parallel/conjunction also relates to things developing underground or in secret, so we can't possibly know what it implies globally, only delve into our own experience/truth.

Right now Mars, Jupiter, Pluto are parallel at 22-23° south declination. Fire planets are energizers and spur visible developments.

I choose not to worry about coronavirus because I'm in control of my bodily health and have all the prevention I need. [b]Intuition is the best guide and it won't function for us while we're living in fear. And if you really want to easily boost your own general immunity to viruses, get some homeopathic Influenzinum. If this virus comes into my community at most I'll take a dose or two of it and continue on with my life.

As to when it will get easier, I've found transit orbs of 5.5° for such major aspects are pretty reliable when it comes to my chart. In mundane terms, maybe more. So when Saturn goes into Aquarius in March it will separate by 5°+, but ... after going Rx will be back in late Capricorn in applying conjunction to Pluto in July. Then it will go direct again in late September and slowly pull away. So in September when they are only 2.5° apart we could see some developments while Mars-Rx in late Aries squaring both Saturn & Pluto.

Then in November, Jupiter again joins Saturn & Pluto in late Capricorn for the continued triple conjunction into early December.

There is a lot that needs to be revealed, so Jupiter's role in this is very important.

Saturn & Pluto is the renewal of control, resetting the terms of power and empowerment; Jupiter sheds light and expands awareness of the dynamics of that.

As to the US, this triple conjunction takes place opposite US's natal Mercury in the 8th house, which will affect its dialogue and economics (especially while Uranus is square US natal Lunar Nodes from 5th house).

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I was really hoping you would participate on this thread and share your thoughts and declination analysis! That is interesting Mars/Jupiter/Pluto all parallel right now while Saturn conjuncts Pluto, sounds pretty intense.

I am not afraid, I feel very clearly that is not my time and have trust in my body but I am also not afraid bc its pointless to worry about it but I think is good to be aware of what is going on and prevent in any way you can, like you are suggesting.

homeopathic Influenzinum[/i] Good advice, noted.