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StubbornVirgo
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posted June 12, 2020 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I’ve just been reminded of the way he treated more than one protester at his rallies. A black woman was being pushed around by some of his supporters, and he told them, “knock her around, would ya?”

This is who people are going to vote for, over Biden? This is who you voted for in the first place?


I didn't vote for him in the first place and I was pretty open about that, on here. I voted for HRC and do not regret that choice.

But the left is making this choice really easy, for moderate Democrats. The choice is no longer Biden or Trump. The choice is anarchy, lawlessness, and censorship or one nation under God. I choose one nation under God, and I think most Americans, whether Democratic or Republican, will do the same. Because at the end of the day, I would like to be able to walk down a city street without having to pass through a "police free zone" where who knows what could happen. I would like to be able to call 911 and have someone actually respond to my cries for help. Among many, many other rights, benefits, and blessings that we have for being one nation with one leader and yes, a police force. It's not crazy to desire safety and security - it's a goal that everyone in our country should strive for, but it's apparent that many do not share those values.

There's my 2 cents.

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teasel
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posted June 13, 2020 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/09/national-guard-protests-309932

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posted June 13, 2020 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/09/national-guard-protests-309932

Politico story full of lies...just like the rest of the lying democrat press.

Park Police Reiterate: No Tear Gas Outside WH Despite LA Times, Other Media Claims.

United States Park Police issued a statement on June 2 about the injuries inflicted on dozens of police officers during what they called “violent protests” where frozen water bottles, bricks, and “caustic liquids” were used against them.
http://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/13/park-police-reiterate-no-tear-gas-outside-wh-despite-la-times-other-media-claims/

Park police have no reason to lie. Most were Hillary The Corrupt voters. Washington DC is a democrat city.

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posted June 16, 2020 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/?fbclid=IwAR36wgBAFVUHQDJnFix9fP7pJq0HAlUlQfE6yN d-ZEY1Ybbv83JLE4pOpcc#2ef522c659bd

Murderer of two cops is a right-winger. Part of that boogaloo group. Not Antifa.

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posted June 16, 2020 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/502992-protester-shoved-by-buffalo-police-is-unable-to-walk-lawyer?fbclid=IwAR2WxWyhmci5j6DSN0OVL3E6Gcm0m8E0Apj07fvZaRgiqbTBU8Uxbua 3ixA

The man that trump accused of being “Antifa” has a skull fracture, and can’t walk. The divisive president still hasn’t apologized, as far as I know.

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posted June 16, 2020 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right, his ambulance chasing 'attorney' says!

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posted June 17, 2020 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
[URL=http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/?fbclid=IwAR36wgBAFVUHQDJnFix9fP7pJq0HAlUlQ fE6yN]http://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/?fbclid=IwAR36wgBAFVUHQDJnFix9fP7pJq0HAlUl QfE6yN[/URL] d-ZEY1Ybbv83JLE4pOpcc#2ef522c659bd

Murderer of two cops is a right-winger. Part of that boogaloo group. Not Antifa.


Lol yeah here we have a latino cop killer who also happens to be a right wing white supremacist. Okay dokey NBC

Boogaloo is an old term used by both sides referring to they see as an inevitable race war. Alt righters have used it causally when joking about blacks "chimping out" ie rioting or just generally behaving violently.

The alt right group who use the term more seriously wear Hawaiian shirts as
a sort of semi ironic identification. They are generally rural or suburban, and they are *always* white - not latino.

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posted June 17, 2020 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/16/bethel-ohio-black-lives-counterprotest/

Peaceful protest in Bethel, overrun by about 700 men and women on motorbikes - counter-protesters who yelled out slurs, and attacked people. Some carried guns, others carried bats. These people decided they were going to "take care of" a peaceful protest, and ended up getting the town under a curfew for the night. One yelled that they don't live in a Democratic State, which seems to be a direct link to something Rump said.

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posted June 19, 2020 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Most of the protesters are peaceful.


An Eye-Witness’s Shocking Account of What’s REALLY Happening During the Seattle Riots

https://www.theorganicprepper.com/truth-seattle-riot/

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posted June 20, 2020 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
California has voted to repeal their civil rights act. I’m leaning toward “insanity”, at this point.

NY city council - actual legislative representatives - is motioning to remove Jefferson from the city hall. The same Jefferson that authored the Declaration of Independence. You cannot blame this on outliers or college kids. This is the institution.

Rioters have torn down a statue of Washington and draped it with a burning American flag. They graffitied “F*** cops” and “colonizer” on the base. Meanwhile, the mob screams and chants “black lives matter” and revels in the ashes of liberty.

These guys are not Americans in their heart, they are enemies of our country. This is the manifestation of civil war, and the gullible people on the left who just want to support the righteous message “racism bad” are the hapless pawns that enable and exasperate it. Anyone who dares defy the mob is a racist scumbag, instead of the average American that cherishes this country and our freedoms.

“Language of the unheard.” Useful fallacy.

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posted June 20, 2020 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.tmz.com/2020/06/18/buffalo-protester-pushed-cop-death-threats-home-hospital-release/

The 75 year old man who was put in the hospital by police, is now receiving death threats from the supposedly pro-life crowd. Wonderful. You guys elected a professional troll as president - he should be telling these people to knock it off, not encouraging the idea that he was a bad guy, on twitter.

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posted June 20, 2020 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They're threatening his lawyer with torture, too. So who is so angry and embarrassed by these people, that they will vote for Biden instead? It seems that Democrats are always being touted as going overboard and being an embarrassment, by most people here - even as trump's people are acting like this (and even as some of you are saying things like you'd throw someone out of a store, for wearing a mask).

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posted June 20, 2020 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Blind writer:
"These guys are not Americans in their heart, they are enemies of our country. This is the manifestation of civil war, and the gullible people on the left who just want to support the righteous message “racism bad” are the hapless pawns that enable and exasperate it. Anyone who dares defy the mob is a racist scumbag, instead of the average American that cherishes this country and our freedoms."

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posted June 20, 2020 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@teasel:

It might surprise you, but I am not a “Trump person”. I actually agree that Trump should apologize after the investigation into him is complete and exonerates him, but I don’t expect that he will. Trump is not the type to apologize, but that is also part of why people put him in the White House to begin with. They don’t want a leader that kowtows. The folks threatening the guy and his lawyer ought to be liable for their actions.

That said, numerous democrat elected officials are enabling and encouraging mass riots while simultaneously denying the basic first amendment right to go to church, introducing motions that are anti-American, and the mob is operating under far left ideology which runs counter to America’s founding principles of liberty and self-accountability. Adding injury to insult, these officials are releasing the miscreants that have literally broken the law back onto the street instead of prioritizing the safety of the community at large. I feel they are the larger threat to our country at this time than a guy who is just a world-class dick. He at least seems to love this country, and is calling out the lawlessness and blatant double standard. Moreover, he is a populist, just one man, easily replaced at the end of the day, whereas the leftists are pervasive in all our institutions, from government to media to our educational system and military. If Trump goes, we’re sliding into full-blown authoritarianism. Free speech is already nearly dead on the Internet.

Moderates like me are picking their fights based on existential threat. The left absolutely cannot acknowledge or see it, because they operate on an emotional level. This isn’t inherently a bad thing, but they’re currently in rage mode. “Orange man bad”, and any example that counters this narrative must be racist conspiracies and must be cancelled. I’ve seen this exchange countless times.

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posted June 21, 2020 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
@teasel:

It might surprise you, but I am not a “Trump person”. I actually agree that Trump should apologize after the investigation into him is complete and exonerates him, but I don’t expect that he will. Trump is not the type to apologize, but that is also part of why people put him in the White House to begin with. They don’t want a leader that kowtows. The folks threatening the guy and his lawyer ought to be liable for their actions.

That said, numerous democrat elected officials are enabling and encouraging mass riots while simultaneously denying the basic first amendment right to go to church, introducing motions that are anti-American, and the mob is operating under far left ideology which runs counter to America’s founding principles of liberty and self-accountability. Adding injury to insult, these officials are releasing the miscreants that have literally broken the law back onto the street instead of prioritizing the safety of the community at large. I feel they are the larger threat to our country at this time than a guy who is just a world-class dick. He at least seems to love this country, and is calling out the lawlessness and blatant double standard. Moreover, he is a populist, just one man, easily replaced at the end of the day, whereas the leftists are pervasive in all our institutions, from government to media to our educational system and military. If Trump goes, we’re sliding into full-blown authoritarianism. Free speech is already nearly dead on the Internet.

Moderates like me are picking their fights based on existential threat. The left absolutely cannot acknowledge or see it, because they operate on an emotional level. This isn’t inherently a bad thing, but they’re currently in rage mode. “Orange man bad”, and any example that counters this narrative must be racist conspiracies and must be cancelled. I’ve seen this exchange countless times.


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posted June 25, 2020 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/in-embarrassing-about-face-philly-top-cop-mayor-admit-tear-gas-on-i-676-was-wrong/2446793/?_osource=SocialFlowFB_PHBrand&fbclid=IwAR1DE26d EGXGmgkWa67qlkEk20YkPw5dnoX61NRfESt3wstxEGuxuvl4Fkw


In About-Face, Philly Top Cop, Mayor Admit Tear Gas on I-676 Was Wrong

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posted June 26, 2020 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1275051388431667200

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posted June 26, 2020 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That sums it up, Jwhop!

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posted June 26, 2020 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not really related to OP, but I gotta say, I think it’s funny that #parler is trending on Twitter. Great job Twitter, way to advertise and signal boost one of your major competitors. It’s trending #1 on the AppStore news app list, too.

I see leftists cheering the “exodus”, but the conservative users are not actually leaving Twitter. I think a lot are concerned about echo chambers, so straddle the fence to keep an eye on the left. They really just want an unstifled and unthrottled voice. Problem is that there’s a conservative concentration among users, and the left refuse to disentangle from Twitter. I just see it developing into a parallel economic situation that doesn’t meaningfully intertwine.

Not sure how this will pan out, if at all, but it’s still ironic and funny.

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posted June 26, 2020 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Trump left Twitter for Parler, that would be the DEATH of twitter. What would the twitter mob talk about with Trump not posting there? How would they be able to harass him with insulting replies and memes?

They would have to join Parler just to continue their mob behavior. With the difference that Parler will not censor Trump like Twitter does.

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posted June 26, 2020 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You would have what is called the Network Effect, which is what happened when droves migrated from MySpace to Facebook.

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posted June 26, 2020 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe theyre not leaving (at least in droves) because they remember the Gab debacle

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posted June 26, 2020 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If President Trump migrates, many who hate him will follow.

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posted June 26, 2020 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If President Trump migrates, many who hate him will follow.

That's fine. And the whole point. He will be on a platform where he will not be censored. Parler will grow and maybe even overtake Twitter in terms of users. And Twitter, along with those medias that are shifting toward censorship will learn a lesson.

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posted June 26, 2020 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blind writer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Maybe theyre not leaving (at least in droves) because they remember the Gab debacle

With how many high profile politicians and others that have gone to Parler, I don’t think that will happen. The news is already trying to smear it as a den for “far right extremists”, though. It’s just full of normal center-right conservatives. Ya know, like Ted Cruz.

I think they’re sticking around Twitter because Trump is. I think they also don’t want to “cede” digital ground, so to speak. Twitter does need to be held accountable for its violations.

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