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posted June 23, 2020 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats bullbutter. Covid was a problem, is a problem and it will get worse.

Blame dems for the covid introduction while you are at it.

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posted June 23, 2020 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If Covid-19 were a problem, Dem leaders wouldn’t have been marching alongside throngs of protesters. It’s only a problem when the Dems disagree with the reasons for gatherings. A .26 percent fatality rate is not a problem. Increased numbers of cases is not a problem when the national fatality rate is so low (except in Florida) and when hospitalizations are down in almost every state (but Louisiana), including the hub of New York. Increased cases among youths of 18-29 is no problem, because it shows that herd immunity is setting in. So, no, Covid-19 is no longer a problem. It is not getting worse. It is getting much better. The more testing that is done, the more we realize that the threat lessens. Why do you suppose that the media only focuses on the number of new cases and not the fatality rate or hospitalizations? To try to make the threat appear far more dangerous than it is. And for the purpose of keeping the economy locked down in order to hurt President Trump’s re-election chances.

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posted June 23, 2020 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good luck with that notion.

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posted June 23, 2020 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The 7.7 million viewers who watched the rally on FOX News made it the highest rated Saturday night in history. Combined with 4.1 million who viewed online, that’s almost 12 million.

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posted June 23, 2020 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want "negative" just read this: http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275375135483146241

Most of his twitter feed is like that.

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posted June 23, 2020 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What’s negative about what President Trump said? The comments were hateful and negative, so that must be what you were talking about,

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posted June 24, 2020 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t need luck. I have science. Rising cases are mostly people who are under 30, and people under 50 tend to be free of complications. In fact, the fatality rate of people under 30 is .007 percent.

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posted June 24, 2020 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the rise in cases is primarily among twenty-somethings, then that indicates that the virus is attenuating, that it is a weakened version of the virus, and that herd immunity is setting in--all very good signs.

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posted June 24, 2020 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Covid is getting worse in places like Arizona and Texas. I just came to link something I read on the way home from the park.

Also, my dad called one of my dogs "knucklehead". It isn't an insult - with him, and when people call their friends that, it's a term of endearment.

Randall, that tweet was full of negativity.

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posted June 24, 2020 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If Covid-19 were a problem, Dem leaders wouldn’t have been marching alongside throngs of protesters. It’s only a problem when the Dems disagree with the reasons for gatherings. A .26 percent fatality rate is not a problem. Increased numbers of cases is not a problem when the national fatality rate is so low (except in Florida) and when hospitalizations are down in almost every state (but Louisiana), including the hub of New York. Increased cases among youths of 18-29 is no problem, because it shows that herd immunity is setting in. So, no, Covid-19 is no longer a problem. It is not getting worse. It is getting much better. The more testing that is done, the more we realize that the threat lessens. Why do you suppose that the media only focuses on the number of new cases and not the fatality rate or hospitalizations? To try to make the threat appear far more dangerous than it is. And for the purpose of keeping the economy locked down in order to hurt President Trump’s re-election chances.

I saw someone passing around a faked tweet from AOC. She didn't tweet that everything needed to remain closed until after the election. Someone made it up, but trumpers are running with the fake news, as usual.

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posted June 24, 2020 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First the personal post that came with the link:

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http://www.facebook.com/melissa.w.summers/posts/10157134422786716

**** Donald Trump.

He’s going to let us die rather than be a ******* leader with a national plan to contain and end this ******* nightmare.

He’s pushing to reopen and people are getting sick and dying.

Meanwhile I’m finding literally no more than 3 content marketing manager positions to apply to in a day and less than 2 copywriting positions to apply to each day.

The economy won’t rebound until we stop this god damn virus from killing us.

This mother ****** - has left me uninsured. Unemployed. No 401 k plan. And won’t take any decisive action to stop this virus from spreading and killing people, keeping the economy in flux - preventing me from finding a new job.

And also? The one thing this stupid garbage administration and the GOP led senate has done to make it tolerable to live through this nightmare (that’s been exacerbated by this administration’s unwillingness to take any coordinated effort) has been the federal unemployment boost.

And that ends on July 25th and I can’t imagine it will be extended because that would require Trump and the GOP admitting this is not over. People are still dying. Needlessly.

Truly all I want is for this ******* pandemic nightmare to be over. I want to work doing what I’m good at. I want opportunities in my field making what I’m worth helping businesses educate and inform their clients and prospects.
This president is stopping me from being able to do this through his inability to be a ******* leader in this time of crisis.

Oh also he’s killing people.


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http://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-pandemic-election-2020/index.html

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President Donald Trump's top health advisers say that the coronavirus pandemic has driven America to its knees amid a disturbing surge in cases. But Trump is ignoring the new danger, instead using the worst domestic crisis in decades as a racist punchline.

Political mismanagement of the situation, the glaring lack of a national strategy and the nation's exhausting, inconclusive struggle with the coronavirus was reflected Tuesday in three key developments. Fully half of US states are now seeing rising cases of the disease with the situation especially acute in Texas, Florida and Arizona, which embraced aggressive reopening programs. The European Union, which has been more successful than the US in suppressing Covid-19, warned it might bar visitors from America in what would be a major embarrassment for Trump. And the President persisted with his counter-logical argument that the US is only seeing more cases of the virus because it is doing more testing, leaving the implication that it would be better if rising cases, infections and ultimately deaths were simply ignored.


Trump spent the day in Arizona and held a rally in Phoenix, a city where mask wearing is mandatory in public. But he refused to don a face covering, along with many supporters who attended his indoor event. And he delighted his fans by reciting a racist name for the virus referencing its origin in China.

"Kung flu?" Trump said, prompting roars from his crowd.

It was a different story in Washington as the government's top infectious diseases specialist, Dr. Anthony Fauci, made what is becoming an increasingly rare public appearance in an official capacity in a hearing on Capitol Hill and warned -- contrary to Trump's assurances that the disease is "fading" and "dying out" -- that "we're now seeing a disturbing surge of infections."

Fauci, who has consistently expressed concern at the wave of aggressive economic openings championed by the President, warned that the next couple of weeks "are going to be critical in our ability to address those surges that we're seeing in Florida, in Texas, in Arizona, and in other states. They're not the only ones that are having a difficulty."

Increasing cases of the virus, which do not represent the "second wave" medical experts have long feared but more a broadening of the first wave that crashed onto coastal cities and urban areas, are beginning to frame up a daunting question for state and national political leaders: will the situation get so bad that a return to more restrictive and even stay at home measures will need to be considered?

Such a step -- by mostly Republican state governors, some of whom have pledged there will be no return to lockdowns -- would cause a huge confrontation with the President, who sees a rapid economic resurgence as vital to his hopes of winning a second term.

States like Arizona, Texas and Florida are moving in the wrong direction, and there are increasing warnings that if they remain on their current course that hospitals could be overwhelmed in weeks and months to come, leaving leaders with agonizing choices of whether to reverse openings or to somehow surge medical capacity to deal with an increasing death toll.

Texas recorded a new single day record of 5,489 new infections. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott, a key Trump ally, warned Monday that daily positive cases, hospitalizations, and the positivity rate were all spiking in the Lone Star State and could require serious action.
"If we were to experience another doubling of those numbers over the next month, that would mean that we are in an urgent situation where tougher actions will be required to make sure that we do contain the spread of Covid-19," he said.
But Lina Hidalgo, a judge in Harris County that includes the city of Houston, warned that authorities didn't have a month to wait.

"We are in the second highest level of threat, of concern," Hidalgo told CNN's John King on Tuesday.

"And if these things continue, and I am looking at it on a day-to-day basis, we would have to go to red at which point my recommendation would be for everybody to stay home again."

Nation on 'its knees'

The hope of everyone was the states that reopened first would find a way to do so without triggering a surge in new cases and therefore begin to mitigate the terrible economic cost and knock-on psychological effects of lockdowns. But some 25 states are now seeing new infections rising, while the situation is steady in 12 and down in 13. It is dispiriting that the picture seems to get a little worse by the day. States like Michigan and California, which has already experienced painful months, have seen their curves begin to rise again. And while states like New York and the Washington metropolitan areas begin to emerge from lockdowns, the worsening data elsewhere offers daunting omens.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Robert Redfield told the same hearing that Fauci addressed on Tuesday, in a comment unlikely to please Trump, that the virus had "brought this nation to its knees."

"We've all done the best that we can do to tackle this virus," Redfield said, pleading for more investment in the country's health infrastructure.

Trump has responded to the latest flashing warnings signs with denial, anger, concern for his own political prospects and by continuing to hold the kind of events -- an indoor, rally style appearance in hard-hit Arizona on Tuesday -- that flout basic advice from his own government's top experts and could expose attendees to infections, serious illness or death and help further transmit infections.

Trump took a jab at Fauci's approval ratings in a tweet on Tuesday, then insisted that he was not kidding over the weekend when he told supporters he had told staff to slow down coronavirus testing -- after senior aides had tried to explain away the comment as in jest.

"I don't kid, let me just tell you, let me make it clear," Trump said before leaving for Arizona. "By having more tests, we have more cases," he added. Experts say testing is the key to tracking true incidence of the disease and breaking chains of infections. Fauci said that the US planned to test more people not fewer. And while Trump's claims that the US leads the world in gross numbers of tests produced, the total conducted over five months -- 22 million, according to Redfield -- is far short of what health experts say is necessary in per capita terms to defeat the virus.

According to a Harvard University report, the US needs 5 million tests per day and 20 million would be required to fully mobilize the economy. By way of comparison with US capacity, the city of Beijing alone says it can now test 1 million people per day.

Trump cofounds logic, own officials on testing

The President also barely mentioned the coronavirus during his visit to Arizona on Tuesday, preferring to tout his border wall and set off a new culture war spat over the pulling down of statues of historic Americans tainted by racism. This despite the fact that the Grand Canyon state is recording daily record highs in terms of new coronavirus infections.
While officials like Fauci are denied a White House platform and face criticism from Trump, officials with no medical expertise, like Larry Kudlow, director of the United States Economic Council, are free to go on television and make inaccurate assessments of the situation.
"There are some hotspots. We're on it. We know how to deal with this stuff now," Kudlow told CNBC on Monday.

The President's events meanwhile send exactly the wrong message on precautions like social distancing and the wearing of masks -- which are the only current tools to fight a virus for which there are few treatments, no current cure and no vaccine.

"Here in the United States, as we're opening up we're seeing increases in cases, we're seeing once again hospitals getting overwhelmed," Dr. Richard Besser, former acting director of the CDC, told CNN's "New Day."

"Hopefully we're improving in terms of our knowledge of how to treat people, and so that may lead to some better outcomes for some. And that's encouraging. But we have a long way to go, and we can't count on the virus toning down in terms of how it attacks."


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posted June 24, 2020 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If the media hype focused on influenza, you would have been hiding in your house for years.

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posted June 24, 2020 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, stop. You know this is worse. I'm wondering if a teenage girl who died around the New Year, had this, and not the regular flu.

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posted June 24, 2020 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and while I'm here:
http://www.newsandguts.com/video/quote-of-the-day-william-barr-poses-the-greatest-threat-to-our-rule-of-law/

Former U.S. Deputy Attorney General Donald Ayer has been calling for Attorney General Bill Barr to resign or to be impeached. Today he got a chance to make his case before the House Judiciary Committee. During a hearing on the politicization of the Justice Department Ayer testified “We’re on the way to something far worse than Watergate,” adding that “Barr poses the greatest threat in my lifetime to our rule of law.”

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posted June 24, 2020 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/23/republican-senate-trump-treason-obama-336097?fbclid=IwAR0VfC8zrd6qOG-k20hqbRY2EmTLpudlhzDF6BY2agM6Sq7_32STKl733nI

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posted June 24, 2020 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Translation: Barr is about to expose them.

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posted June 24, 2020 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"He’s going to let us die rather than be a ******* leader with a national plan to contain and end this ******* nightmare."

Typical bullshiite found on Facebook and Twitter. How any rational person can stomach such scurrilous twaddle is beyond me. Oh, the operative word here is 'rational'.

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posted June 25, 2020 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://youtu.be/tlhZ9SL90X8

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posted June 26, 2020 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you add CSPAN, it was over 20 million viewers.

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posted June 26, 2020 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dozens-of-secret-service-officers-and-agents-told-to-self-quarantine-after-trumps-tulsa-rally/2020/06/24/22c08b36-b55f-11ea-aca5-ebb63d27e1ff _story.html

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posted June 26, 2020 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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If you add CSPAN, it was over 20 million viewers.

Lots of eyeballs on President Trump's rally in Tulsa.

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posted June 27, 2020 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.newsandguts.com/since-learning-of-russian-bounty-on-u-s-troops-trump-continued-to-court-putin/?fbclid=IwAR2s9SVOowzrcm0GKF9ft_XRBrwMINHCOqguy8rXoVRdFL2rK4PYbGNrQM0

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posted June 28, 2020 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A guy I know just said that he lives in a gated community. Someone had his trump sign and flag up outside his home. A couple of months ago, a woman next-door to him, put up a Biden sign. Same with two more people on the same street.

Around the time of trump's rally in Oklahoma, and his saying that he told them to back off testing, the flag and trump sign came down. He lost this guy as a supporter.

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posted June 29, 2020 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/workers-removed-thousands-of-social-distancing-stickers-before-trumps-tulsa-rally-according-to-video-and-a-person-familiar-with-the-set-up/20 20/06/27/f429c3be-b801-11ea-9b0f-c797548c1154_story.html

"Workers removed thousands of social distancing stickers before Trump’s Tulsa rally, according to video and a person familiar with the set-up"

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In the hours before President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, his campaign directed the removal of thousands of “Do Not Sit Here, Please!” stickers from seats in the arena that were intended to establish social distance between rallygoers, according to video and photos obtained by The Washington Post and a person familiar with the event.

The removal contradicted instructions from the management of the BOK Center, the 19,000-seat arena in downtown Tulsa where Trump held his rally on June 20. At the time, coronavirus cases were rising sharply in Tulsa County, and Trump faced intense criticism for convening a large crowd for an indoor political rally, his first such event since the start of the pandemic.

As part of its safety plan, arena management had purchased 12,000 do-not-sit stickers for Trump’s rally, intended to keep people apart by leaving open seats between attendees. On the day of the rally, event staff had already affixed them on nearly every other seat in the arena when Trump’s campaign told event management to stop and then began removing the stickers, hours before the president’s arrival, according to a person familiar with the event who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters.


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