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Randall
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posted September 25, 2020 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Governor Ron Desantis!

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posted September 25, 2020 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a raging pandemic! Yay!

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posted September 25, 2020 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a free America.

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posted September 26, 2020 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That includes bars and nightclubs. It also prohibits municipalities and cities from enforcing mask mandates and social distancing requirements and prohibits and reverses all fines.

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posted September 26, 2020 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it means those who want to wear masks can still wear them.

And as for those people who are scared, they should stay home and only venture out fully masked to buy necessities and run essential errands while maintaining social distance.

ETA: checking flight deals to FLA right now.

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posted September 27, 2020 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The governors in other states should do the same.

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posted September 27, 2020 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"ETA: checking flight deals to FLA right now."

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posted September 27, 2020 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Officially the "people die, get over it" party. Hypocrites.

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posted September 28, 2020 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Officially the "people die, get over it" party. Hypocrites.

Did you not get over people dying in 2019 of diabetes, heart attack, flu, alcoholism, drug abuse, stroke, car accidents, how about gunshots in Chicago? Or did you stop your life because of those deaths last year?

Did you stop falling in love, going dancing, going on vacay, listening to fun music, going to parties, having sex, watching movies, enjoying food, going to the beach?

Did you stop your life because of those 2019 deaths, teasel?

NO!

Because, with all due respect to the dead, life has to go on. My time and your time to go will come one day, and guess what, life will go on for the living. And that's okay by me.

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posted September 28, 2020 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said.

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quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
Did you not get over people dying in 2019 of diabetes, heart attack, flu, alcoholism, drug abuse, stroke, car accidents, how about gunshots in Chicago? Or did you stop your life because of those deaths last year?

Did you stop falling in love, going dancing, going on vacay, listening to fun music, going to parties, having sex, watching movies, enjoying food, going to the beach?

[b]Did you stop your life because of those 2019 deaths, teasel?

NO!

Because, with all due respect to the dead, life has to go on. My time and your time to go will come one day, and guess what, life will go on for the living. And that's okay by me.

[/B]


There's a concept called 'personal accountability' you might want to look into, also probably 'moral responsibility,' and 'integrity.' Really fascinating ideas, highly recommended.
These concepts are directly related to the problems of this current pandemic, and explicitly NOT related to your ******* rhetoric of whether we should stop our lives because of

"people dying in 2019 of diabetes, heart attack, flu, alcoholism, drug abuse, stroke, car accidents, how about gunshots in Chicago? Or did you stop your life because of those deaths last year?"

Just out of curiosity, are you a pastor or something? Because they tend to make similarly incoherent points that detract from the reality at hand. I would pity you but I'm not into that :/

Oh and trust me, we don't want you in Miami.. .

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Well-said.

Horribly, horribly said. Non-arguments.

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In a raging pandemic! Yay!

Damn Teasel I don't know what you get out of this site anymore. It's about my time to peace out ^_~ Much to the dismay of all the headless chickens on this forum, I'm sure.

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posted October 05, 2020 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peace out, chicken little.

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posted October 05, 2020 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We live in this strange culture nowadays where we seem to have this pathological fear and dislike of death as if it was some sort of super negative thing.

Our ancestors, and most indigenous people of today, would and do look at us as if we are completely crazy, because they know that death is a misnomer--it's simply about phasing from one dimension to another. I've had more than enough nonphysical/spiritual experiences to know they're completely right.

Seriously, talk to any Native American--doesn't matter what tribe--they think our culture is completely bonkers in so many ways and especially this pathological fear and dislike of death.

And even not that long ago, in our own culture, we USE to refer to pneumonia as the friend of the elderly. We called it a friend because we recognized that when a person's body was breaking down after they already had a full life, but now were in pain either physical and/or emotional, etc, the pneumonia infection helped them to release this life.

It's so weird how far we've come so far away from that. One of my first real jobs was working in home with elderly folks. It was not a glamorous job, but it was fulfilling. However, it was also kind of depressing to see these folks whose bodies were completely breaking down and only being held together by a cocktail of pharmaceutical drugs, surgeries, etc. Then also the extreme loneliness because in most cases, their only regular visitors were those of us paid to visit them.

That's not really much of a life, and many only hold on because of fear of the unknown. I use to have talks with this one guy about things and I would mention some of my nonphysical/spiritual experiences. I ended up having to leave that job because my partner and I were moving to another state, and about a couple weeks after I quit, I was meditating and that client popped into my awareness strongly with a big smile and a very thankful/appreciative energy--he was sayings, "Thanks!"

Shortly after that experience, my former supervisor from that job and also a personal friend, called me up and said, just thought you might want to know, but John died recently. Since she was open to spiritual stuff, I told her about the recent meditation experience.

Anyways, Covid has by far, mostly affected the very elderly--especially as to death rate. It's not a "bad", nor negative thing to have one's body die--it is a blessing and a release. When it happens to most of us, most of us are overjoyed to be released from this heavy level and heavy body.

In fact, read a ton of NDE accounts and one of the most universally reported things in same, is how many people say something like, "Man, I was so glad to be free of that body and all the heaviness". It really is a commonly expressed sentiment. Most don't want to come back, and some have to be literally pushed back.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't try to protect elderly people. Course we should, but death is not such scary and negative thing that many people make it out to be when it does happen. Do what you practically can (and not by wrecking the entire global economy).

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posted October 05, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I lost my mother, I have two aunts dealing with cancer - one stopped treatment in June, one had her bladder removed this summer, in order to try to stop cancer spreading (bladder cancer that killed her sister/my aunt November 30th 2015, months before I lost my mother to an aneurysm). I’ve lost more family and friends to cancer, another friend was just diagnosed. I don’t want to lose my dad to anything, but I will, or he could lose me first. And no, Belage, I’m NOT over it. I especially don’t want to lose him thanks to some idiot who refused to be careful, because of his insane leader that he (or she) worships, and passes along something that could be avoided. My dad is a delivery driver, and he’s been out there this whole time. He has spray bleach and Lysol, hand wipes, his mask. He hates wearing a mask, but he does it when he has to, and he doesn’t want to get sick. So think of people like him, maybe?

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posted October 05, 2020 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Damn Teasel I don't know what you get out of this site anymore. It's about my time to peace out ^_~ Much to the dismay of all the headless chickens on this forum, I'm sure.

Hi Selenite, sorry to see you go. ❤️

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posted October 05, 2020 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, ballerina! What thoughts did I have, according to you? It isn’t funny when someone is seriously ill. He’s been courting it this whole time, but it’s never funny when someone could die. Please stop projecting onto me, and thanks.

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posted October 05, 2020 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Teasel. I've also had people very close to me transition from the physical to the nonphysical. I don't say "lost" because that implies I will never see them again. I know we will.

Death is hard on those of us left behind in the physical because we miss them. But it doesn't equate to it being a bad or negative thing. It's just a temporary parting, and really on a deeper level, we're all always connected--especially to those we love and who love us.

I've had a number of experiences with my Mom post her body's death. She has let me know that she still cares and is still involved with my life to some extent.

I think we should try to protect people whose health is more fragile and they are more susceptible to potentially more serious effects from Covid. But the way we've been doing it so far, is causing a lot of damage to a lot of people in the long term. Many American's don't have much extra cushion for when they lose their jobs, their businesses, etc.

I don't know what the best solution is ultimately, but I think aid should be most concentrated to folks like your dad who are more fragile health wise.

I also think that pepole in general, and especially Americans, really need to start caring a lot more about their health and start exercising discipline and discernment in their various health lifestyle choices. Covid is and should be a big wake up call to things like that. There's an old saying that goes, "Americans care more about their cars than their bodies". So often this seems to be more or less true.

There are causes and effects and people's choices have consequences. Speaking as a person who has had health issues and who has been forced by same to clean up his act.

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posted October 05, 2020 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/facesofcovid?s=21

All of these people have families who won’t just get over it, Belage.

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posted October 05, 2020 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ballerina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
teasel,

There is no need to lie!
You were gloating when you
started that topic. All smiles!
It's no secret you hate the
President of the United States.
You've made that very clear, here!

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All my love, with all my Heart
lotusheartone/Emeraldopal

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posted October 05, 2020 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I knew you would be sorry to see him go. He was wishing death on President Trump. You sure know how to pick ‘em.

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posted October 05, 2020 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
There's a concept called 'personal accountability' you might want to look into, also probably 'moral responsibility,' and 'integrity.' Really fascinating ideas, highly recommended.
These concepts are directly related to the problems of this current pandemic, and explicitly NOT related to your ******* rhetoric of whether we should stop our lives because of

"people dying in 2019 of diabetes, heart attack, flu, alcoholism, drug abuse, stroke, car accidents, how about gunshots in Chicago? Or did you stop your life because of those deaths last year?"

Just out of curiosity, are you a pastor or something? Because they tend to make similarly incoherent points that detract from the reality at hand. I would pity you but I'm not into that :/

Oh and trust me, we don't want you in Miami.. .


Wowsers, Selenite!

So this is what it has come to, when someone doesn't agree with your party line, you can accuse them of lacking 'personal accountability' 'moral responsibility,' and 'integrity". Oh well...

And, sorry to break this to you, but you don't own Miami, or any place in the US or the world for that matter that I may want to go to. So whether you "want" me in Miami or not is highly immaterial.

Godspeed!

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posted October 05, 2020 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I lost my mother, I have two aunts dealing with cancer - one stopped treatment in June, one had her bladder removed this summer, in order to try to stop cancer spreading (bladder cancer that killed her sister/my aunt November 30th 2015, months before I lost my mother to an aneurysm). I’ve lost more family and friends to cancer, another friend was just diagnosed. I don’t want to lose my dad to anything, but I will, or he could lose me first. And no, Belage, I’m NOT over it. I especially don’t want to lose him thanks to some idiot who refused to be careful, because of his insane leader that he (or she) worships, and passes along something that could be avoided. My dad is a delivery driver, and he’s been out there this whole time. He has spray bleach and Lysol, hand wipes, his mask. He hates wearing a mask, but he does it when he has to, and he doesn’t want to get sick. So think of people like him, maybe?

I am sorry for your losses. I will spare you the list of the losses I have experienced.

My point was that you did not stop living your life because of those losses. You cried, you grieved, your mourned, then you resumed living life. You may not be over those losses, but you went out, dated, fell in love or lust, went to parties, travelled for fun, etc...

As for your dad's risk by being a delivery driver, he can keep his 6 feet distance minimum while doing his deliveries and keep his mask on. He doesn't have to interact closely with people at all. So I am not sure what you are so worried about regarding him on his job. You seem to be so gripped with fear...

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posted October 06, 2020 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
http://twitter.com/facesofcovid?s=21

All of these people have families who won’t just get over it, Belage.


Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said "just get over it!"

What I have said is, life goes on. I have even asked YOU if your life didn't go on in spite of all the people who died last year? I never said just get over it, so don't even go there.

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