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jwhop
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posted October 05, 2020 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"(And if my words trigger a reaction in you, it's because deep down you know it's true. Only the truth really bothers us when it comes to typed words from a stranger)."

Why don't you spout a little truth and we'll see how many you...'trigger'.

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posted October 05, 2020 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
"(And if my words trigger a reaction in you, it's because deep down you know it's true. Only the truth really bothers us when it comes to typed words from a stranger)."

Why don't you spout a little truth and we'll see how many you...'trigger'.


Translation: “why don’t you give us your thoughts, so that I can be rude to you again. “

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posted October 05, 2020 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t believe that Biden is our savior. A lot of people don’t. It’s just a step in the right direction.

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posted October 05, 2020 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
I don’t believe that Biden is our savior. A lot of people don’t. It’s just a step in the right direction.

I get why some folks believe that and why it seems that way. But at some point we have to get fed up enough with the lesser of evils and this constant illusion of choice. It just keeps happening, and that's because of a lot of reasons--such as big money involved in politics, an overly entrenched two party only system, etc.

There has been actual scientific research and statistics done that indicates that American's Federal government does not align to and listen to the will of the people anymore, and hasn't for awhile. For example, here is an excellent TedX talk by a Harvard Professor about this:
http://youtu.be/PJy8vTu66tE

The above very strongly implies that the whole concept of a "deep state" level of government is not a "conspiracy theory" in the least, but the most consistent fact of government in our times.

In fact, there was an excellent Boston Globe article about this very topic where a former White House insider talks about the "public" government vs the "secret" government that does not answer to the public and that most of the public isn't even really aware exists.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2014/10/18/vo te-all-you-want-the-secret-government-won-change/jVSkXrENQlu8vNcBfMn9sL/story.html

As long as people keep buying into this whole Football team right vs left polarization b.s. and continue to ignore that the true rulers of this country (and really of the world) do not care about political groups, idealogies, because they are psychopaths and psychopaths have no loyalty to anything besides themselves, and seeking ever more power and control, then we are lost, the situation is hopeless, and beyond repair.

Take a long look at human history Teasel. Some patterns will stand out immediately. Human history is one big repeating cycle of class war between the have mosts and the haves less and leasts, where the former wage a kind of war of control on the latter.

It is so blatant and so obvious. We are not free from this in our times, and Biden really isn't a move in the right direction. He's an establishment man through and through. Like Hillary before him, he is a corporate and banking bootlicker through and through.

He's only better than Trump on a personality level, and that's only by a bit, because the dude is also creepy AF. The criticisms of the right about him, are partly to mostly true in most cases. I don't know why they don't see the criticisms about Trump as being likewise mostly correct, but that's how the human mind/psyche tends to operate once it picks a side and a "team". "My Team is awesome, your team sucks".

It's a kind of primitive tribalism trait in humanity and many humans that is very limiting in nature and tendency.

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posted October 05, 2020 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biden is a step in the wrong direction. Biden is a puppet of the far left. So, it isn’t about what he wants to do. It’s about what the far left wants him to do. That includes a lot of stuff that teasel doesn’t know about, because she gets her news the same place she gets her hate Trump taking points—the Crackerjack News Network.

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posted October 05, 2020 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only way is the middle way . That's the only truth both sides know in their heart. I am so glad to receive social benefits when I most needed it. It will be for the first time and the shortest time but I have remembered the lessons well rather than learning from learning books or reading social media forums. Thanks to all those leftists who fought for me.

Trump is contracting , a liar, and has not kept his words. He would make a great emperor just like the Roman emperors did or any Gemini aged people did but in todays world he is zero more than a hero.

An emperor that brings tears to the eyes of a public servant when talking of his son's drug issues is no great king.

This clown president could not protect the white house and has tainted it with the corona virus. He labelled it the China virus and did not send a team to China nor defended the argument Biden had raised. He has printed more money than any past president and this will hurt the dollar in the long run.

I am not sure how the future will look like , but it is upto the average joe to decide how it will look like. Many wants great liberal candidates to join the Democrats and reform the party. But they lack time. Next few weeks are crucial. Only the starseeds can change the destiny and bias it.


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posted October 05, 2020 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The left wants power and will do anything to get it and to fulfill their radical agenda by stacking the POTUS and the Senate.

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jwhop
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posted October 05, 2020 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Trump is contracting , a liar, and has not kept his words"

Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo!

Trump made a lot of promises and as President, kept them all.

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posted October 06, 2020 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A clown whose supporters asked him to put on make up and powder and appear before the public. What a clown indeed. Jeopardizing everyone he meets and spreading the bug with no sense of responsibility.

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posted October 06, 2020 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Trump is contracting , a liar, and has not kept his words"

Whatsamatter Phoenix, can't think of anything Trump promised that he haven't delivered...and a lot more than he promised?

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posted October 06, 2020 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am not sure how the future will look like

look behind you to see ahead.
trials and purges.

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PhoenixRising
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posted October 06, 2020 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jwhop, he didn't make America great again as he promised. It is worse that he got it.

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posted October 06, 2020 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a formal note, here they are:


->Create a health savings account
-->Invest $550 billion in infrastructure and create an infrastructure fund
-->Bring back manufacturing
-->Make no cuts to Medicaid
-->Grow the economy by 4 percent a year
-->Guarantee 6-week paid leave
-->Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton
-->Get Congress to allow health insurance across state lines
-->Repeal Obamacare
-->Renegotiate the Iran deal
-->Rebuild the Marine Corps to 36 battalions
-->Add additional federal investment of $20 billion toward School Choice
-->Change the vaccination schedule for children
-->Adopt the penny plan
-->Expand national right to carry to all 50 states
-->Cancel all funding of sanctuary cities
-->Dramatically scale back the U.S. Education Department
-->Eliminate Common Core
-->Remove all undocumented immigrants
-->Eliminate gun-free zones at schools and military bases
-->Stop the AT&T Time Warner Merger
-->Triple ICE enforcement
-->Eliminate wasteful spending in every department
-->Build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it
-->Reverse China's entry into the World Trade Organization
-->End birthright citizenship
-->Enact 5-year ban on White House and congressional officials from lobbying
-->Impose a hiring freeze on federal employees
-->Have mandatory minimum sentences for criminals caught trying to re-enter the United States illegally
-->Impose death penalty for cop killers
-->Establish a commission on radical Islam
-->Replace J-1 Visa with Inner City Resume Bank
-->Increase the size of the U.S. Army to 540,000 active duty soldiers
-->Increase visa fees
-->Build a safe zone for Syrian refugees
-->Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years
-->Administer Medicaid through block grants
-->Allow individuals to deduct health care insurance premiums from taxes
-->Bring back waterboarding
-->Enact term limits
-->Change the name of Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley
-->Balance the federal budget 'fairly quickly'
-->Remove existing Syrian refugees
-->Establish a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.
-->Create targeted child care tax credits
-->Eliminate the carried interest loophole
-->Repeal the alternative minimum tax
-->Cut the number of tax brackets
-->Release his tax returns after an audit is completed
-->Sue his accusers of sexual misconduct

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posted October 06, 2020 08:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Breaking: President breaks campaign promises!!!

The US is in decline and has been since, arguably, the mid 70s. Trump inherited a shiitstorm , and he will bequeath a shiitstorm . Imagine believing this one man has the power to reverse the monumental fall of an empire circling the drain. lol Imagine believing he is single handedly responsible for that fall!

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posted October 06, 2020 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biden is the only sane choice with any chance right now.

Records were broken for the opening day for early voting, in Ohio today. I feel happy tonight. We may not know how things will turn out yet, but people really want the insanity out of here.

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posted October 06, 2020 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
On a formal note, here they are:


->Create a health savings account
-->Invest $550 billion in infrastructure and create an infrastructure fund
-->Bring back manufacturing
-->Make no cuts to Medicaid
-->Grow the economy by 4 percent a year
-->Guarantee 6-week paid leave
-->Appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary Clinton
-->Get Congress to allow health insurance across state lines
-->Repeal Obamacare
-->Renegotiate the Iran deal
-->Rebuild the Marine Corps to 36 battalions
-->Add additional federal investment of $20 billion toward School Choice
-->Change the vaccination schedule for children
-->Adopt the penny plan
-->Expand national right to carry to all 50 states
-->Cancel all funding of sanctuary cities
-->Dramatically scale back the U.S. Education Department
-->Eliminate Common Core
-->Remove all undocumented immigrants
-->Eliminate gun-free zones at schools and military bases
-->Stop the AT&T Time Warner Merger
-->Triple ICE enforcement
-->Eliminate wasteful spending in every department
-->Build a wall, and make Mexico pay for it
-->Reverse China's entry into the World Trade Organization
-->End birthright citizenship
-->Enact 5-year ban on White House and congressional officials from lobbying
-->Impose a hiring freeze on federal employees
-->Have mandatory minimum sentences for criminals caught trying to re-enter the United States illegally
-->Impose death penalty for cop killers
-->Establish a commission on radical Islam
-->Replace J-1 Visa with Inner City Resume Bank
-->Increase the size of the U.S. Army to 540,000 active duty soldiers
-->Increase visa fees
-->Build a safe zone for Syrian refugees
-->Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years
-->Administer Medicaid through block grants
-->Allow individuals to deduct health care insurance premiums from taxes
-->Bring back waterboarding
-->Enact term limits
-->Change the name of Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley
-->Balance the federal budget 'fairly quickly'
-->Remove existing Syrian refugees
-->Establish a ban on Muslims entering the U.S.
-->Create targeted child care tax credits
-->Eliminate the carried interest loophole
-->Repeal the alternative minimum tax
-->Cut the number of tax brackets
-->Release his tax returns after an audit is completed
-->Sue his accusers of sexual misconduct


How about a link to a credible source!

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shura
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posted October 06, 2020 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shura     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The senile, warmonger pedo with a shameful 40 yr record in Congress is a sane choice.

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posted October 07, 2020 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No proof miss
If I go with rumors trump is accused of incest.
Biden is just a warm person. Not sure I mentioned, I bet he has a first house moon. He never hides his feelings.

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posted October 07, 2020 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Google for his campaign promises. Do your homework Mr

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posted October 07, 2020 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't trust the history books but I am with the historians of future as they list Trump as the worst president of the USA.

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posted October 07, 2020 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Google for his campaign promises. Do your homework Mr

You made the accusation ace. Did you pull that all out of your a$$?

If not, YOU post the credible source of your list.

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PhoenixRising
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posted October 07, 2020 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the search bar of google's home page type "Trumps campaign promises" .

I think I pulled it from politifact.com.

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jwhop
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posted October 07, 2020 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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In the search bar of google's home page type "Trumps campaign promises" .

I think I pulled it from politifact.com.


Post the link...instead of trying to weasel out of your accusation.

You shouldn't be spewing this kind of bullshiite unless you can back it up with credible proof.

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posted October 07, 2020 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is so much BS on that list that it's laughable. Some were promised, some were not, but they are all twisted and intertwined with outright lies to make the list appear to be of unkept promises. For example, President Trump did say he would release his tax returns after the audit, but the audit is still ongoing. DUH! The only thing with a semblance of truth is repealing Obamacare, but he had it done until McCain betrayed everyone. Still, President Trump gutted it by eliminating the mandate, so it is effectively repealed, and he is still working on a complete repeal. Promise kept, as far as I'm concerned.

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