posted September 30, 2020 01:48 PM            

1. It was a nasty and a chaotic debate. Personal attacks initiated by Trump obviously, who knows the art of insult so well.

2. Disrespect of time allocated for each to speak . Trump was dominating and not letting Biden speak. He interrupted Biden and the Mod 145 times. I think his motto of offence is the best form of defense was in full display.

3. Biden nailed it quite well, Trump has no idea what he is speaking about and neither has a plan. He just signs executive orders and that's it. Todate no concrete plan. Just talk and no walk the talk.

4. Trump was wrong to say Biden did nothing in all his 47 years of public service. Trump has absolutely no respect for public servants.

If he has his way, he will let USPS perish and we will be left with private sectors and service to the people will be like another business. He wants forest management
to reduce fires but no plan on how to make it work. He needs to have that sense of service to public and this is what I see lacking in him. No wonder his sons are not in the military but Joe Biden son's are.

Trump didn't have clue on how voting by ballots worked . Showed his weakness of being a public servant. He should go back to follow his passion of business and real estate and chasing pretty women.

5. Biden said "I will implement the Biden green act plan" is what I liked about Biden. Not Paris accord or whatever but Biden's plan.
Metering carbon output worldwide will be a new reality because of the destruction caused to sea life and plants and animals and human life in general.

6. I didn't realize Biden was tasked with the economic recovery post 2008 financial crash. He did quite well to bring manufacturing autos back to the states. He claimed Trump messed up after taking over.

<Many other things not added here> go to the media lol.>

Unproven claims:

1. Lawlessness has increased on Trump's watch is what Biden claimed.

2. Trumps own scientists disagrees with Trump on the plan of vaccines.

Proven claims used to malign reputation.
Trump kept bringing Biden's other sons drug issues and completely ignoring Biden's other son's fantastic military career. Trump even lied to the public that he was discharged with dishonor .

My own thoughts:
Biden stutters and perhaps his age is showing up. Could not help notice it. If he lives till 85 he will make a great president

Trump is patriotic and has a soul. His narrow minded thinking will shrink US more than expand it.

posted September 30, 2020 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You don’t know the meaning of the word. Biden has said numerous racist things.

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posted September 30, 2020 09:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
You failed to mention Biden calling President Trump a racist, a clown, and other insults. Also, if you have to tell your opponent to shut up, you have lost the debate.

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posted September 30, 2020 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
This poll has Dems concerned:
http://www.ibtimes.com/presidential-debate-2020-66-s panish-speaking-viewers-believe-trump-won-telemundo-poll-3054710?amp=1

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Losing Latinos is a big deal for Biden's campaign.

So is losing Independents who always decide elections.

posted October 01, 2020 12:12 PM            

On the other hand, Biden is a racist and bigot, proved over his 49 years in government.

posted October 01, 2020 05:40 PM            

Criminal justice and prison reform with the First Step Act. We can talk all day about the awful outcome of what Biden's crime bill did, but with Trump's First Step Act, this is a huge push in the right direction in regards to criminal justice and prison reform.

It may come as a shock to some, but Trump has made significant action in regards to minorities.

-Funding in HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) programs, increased by 25%, that’s millions of dollars.
-Record low unemployment and food stamps recipients with the passing of The Tax Plan and Jobs Act.
-Striving to ending HIV spread by funding $673 million to Trump’s “Ending the HIV Epidemic: A Plan for America” initiative.
-Ending mistreatment of those in the LGBT community. Trump launched global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality where it's still illegal to be gay (that's about 70 countries btw).

Working towards the improvement of healthcare and addressing the opioid pandemic:

-Trump officially legalized industrial Hemp and decriminalized CBD, leaving marijuana legalization up to the states.
-Trump has addressed the opioid pandemic and funded $1.8 billion to states for treatment initiatives.
-Trump signed four executive orders that significantly lowered prescription drug prices, like insulin and epinephrine. These orders also allow people more health care options while promoting open market competition. Trump has been running on this since the beginning. Repeal and Replace has failed to pass, the Trump administration is basically working with what they’ve got right now.

Infrastructure, Deregulation and Economic Reform :

-TPP and slashed tariffs on China, bringing back manufacturing jobs to the US.

Trump’s Response to Covid:

These were steps taken before WHO declared this a global pandemic & was praising China on their handle of it, AND when Fauci claimed the virus was not a major threat to the US...
-Screenings at entry in airports.
-Created C19 taskforce.
-Travel ban on China.
-Offered to send CDC team to China more than once before the spread worsened.
-Partnerships to expedite a vaccine.
-Requested to congress $2.5 billion to fight C19 .
-Extended restrictive travel.
-Declared National Emergency.

What many people don't seem to understand is that Trump is just part of one branch of govt, he can only act at federal level: enacting travel bans, declaring national emergency to access funds etc. And he did what was within his power. He sent any available medical equipment to states that asked for it & funded making more.

Quarantine, shelter in place, mask guidelines & enforcing social distancing was up to the states as per the 10th Amendment. Trump's C19 taskforce shared info as they got it and implored states to follow CDC guidelines.

Ending the war and making peace deals:

-Trump is trying to bring our troops home. If the Taliban agrees to sign an accord in negotiation with the Trump administration, American soldiers will withdraw from Afghanistan.
- The recent peace deal between Israel, United Arab Emirates.

For me, the action Trump has taken speaks much louder than his words and that is why I'm going to be voting for him.

posted October 01, 2020 07:42 PM            

"We have the first poling that includes some post-debate data, and it’s good news for President Donald Trump.

posted October 01, 2020 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by etherealsaturn:
I do not particularly like Trump's personality, but he has done some pretty great things so far as president.

Criminal justice and prison reform with the First Step Act. We can talk all day about the awful outcome of what Biden's crime bill did, but with Trump's First Step Act, this is a huge push in the right direction in regards to criminal justice and prison reform.

It may come as a shock to some, but Trump has made significant action in regards to minorities.

-Funding in HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) programs, increased by 25%, that’s millions of dollars.
-Record low unemployment and food stamps recipients with the passing of The Tax Plan and Jobs Act.
-Striving to ending HIV spread by funding $673 million to Trump’s “Ending the HIV Epidemic: A Plan for America” initiative.
-Ending mistreatment of those in the LGBT community. Trump launched global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality where it's still illegal to be gay (that's about 70 countries btw).

Working towards the improvement of healthcare and addressing the opioid pandemic:

-Trump officially legalized industrial Hemp and decriminalized CBD, leaving marijuana legalization up to the states.
-Trump has addressed the opioid pandemic and funded $1.8 billion to states for treatment initiatives.
-Trump signed four executive orders that significantly lowered prescription drug prices, like insulin and epinephrine. These orders also allow people more health care options while promoting open market competition. Trump has been running on this since the beginning. Repeal and Replace has failed to pass, the Trump administration is basically working with what they’ve got right now.

Infrastructure, Deregulation and Economic Reform :

-TPP and slashed tariffs on China, bringing back manufacturing jobs to the US.

Trump’s Response to Covid:

These were steps taken before WHO declared this a global pandemic & was praising China on their handle of it, AND when Fauci claimed the virus was not a major threat to the US...
-Screenings at entry in airports.
-Created C19 taskforce.
-Travel ban on China.
-Offered to send CDC team to China more than once before the spread worsened.
-Partnerships to expedite a vaccine.
-Requested to congress $2.5 billion to fight C19 .
-Extended restrictive travel.
-Declared National Emergency.

What many people don't seem to understand is that Trump is just part of one branch of govt, he can only act at federal level: enacting travel bans, declaring national emergency to access funds etc. And he did what was within his power. He sent any available medical equipment to states that asked for it & funded making more.

Quarantine, shelter in place, mask guidelines & enforcing social distancing was up to the states as per the 10th Amendment. Trump's C19 taskforce shared info as they got it and implored states to follow CDC guidelines.

Ending the war and making peace deals:

-Trump is trying to bring our troops home. If the Taliban agrees to sign an accord in negotiation with the Trump administration, American soldiers will withdraw from Afghanistan.
- The recent peace deal between Israel, United Arab Emirates.

For me, the action Trump has taken speaks much louder than his words and that is why I'm going to be voting for him.

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I read with interest your post. I think you need to post more often.

Where can I find more info on this:

-Ending mistreatment of those in the LGBT community. Trump launched global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality where it's still illegal to be gay (that's about 70 countries btw).

posted October 02, 2020 12:02 PM            

Biden did point out that Trump should have sent a team to China but didn't exactly do that. This was brought out in the debate. Rightists are egoistical maniacs. They don't have a retrograde Jupiter in their charts which indicates thinking outside of the box especially when in the third house. They copy paste.

Even the prescription prices has not decreased in Trumps watch. I am looking in to it.

posted October 04, 2020 02:26 PM            

Also an interesting read on LGBT topic, an
opinion piece from Robert Kabel http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/ 2020/08/20/donald-trump-lgbtq-lgbt-gay-rights-republican-equality-column/5605491002/

Advocate interview with Trump from 20 years ago, where he speaks on supporting LGBT community etc. http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/9/28/read-donald-trumps-a dvocate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans

Some highlights from this interview:

[Why should gays and lesbians be interested in you as a presidential candidate?
Trump:"I grew up in New York City, a town with different races, religions, and peoples. It breeds tolerance. In all truth, I don’t care whether or not a person is gay. I judge people based on their capability, honesty, and merit."

Would we see gay people in a Trump administration?
Trump:"I would want the best and brightest. Sexual orientation would be meaningless. I’m looking for brains and experience. If the best person for the job happens to be gay, I would certainly appoint them. One of the key problems today is that politics is such a disgrace, good people don't go into government. I’d want to change that."

What would you do to combat antigay prejudice?
Trump:"I like the idea of amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include a ban of discrimination based on sexual orientation. It would be simple. It would be straightforward. We don’t need to rewrite the laws currently on the books, although I do think we need to address hate-crimes legislation."

Are your gay employees allowed to be out?
Trump:"Everyone makes a personal choice. Look, it just doesn’t matter to me. I try to treat everybody equal and fairly."

What are your thoughts on gay marriage?
Trump:"I think the institution of marriage should be between a man and a woman. I do favor a very strong domestic-partnership law that guarantees gay people the same legal protections and rights as married people. I think it’s important for gay couples who are committed to each other to not be hassled when it comes to inheritance, insurance benefits, and other simple everyday rights." ]

When asked what four things he wanted to accomplish as president, Trump answered, Economy, Trade Deals, Healthcare, and the American spirit. Sounds very much the same 20 years ago as he does today.

posted October 04, 2020 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by PhoenixRising:
Heh Belage, Please use your judgement before coming to conclusion. Many here don't fact check.

Biden did point out that Trump should have sent a team to China but didn't exactly do that. This was brought out in the debate. Rightists are egoistical maniacs. They don't have a retrograde Jupiter in their charts which indicates thinking outside of the box especially when in the third house. They copy paste.

Even the prescription prices has not decreased in Trumps watch. I am looking in to it.

*Updated 10/2 2:33 my research shows many lost their health insurance, so how is prescription cheaper if people don't even have insurance to pay with? Hmm

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Trump tried more than once to send a US team to China to help. The White House website also notes that their offers went without response.

From January 27 http://nypost.com/2020/01/27/trump-offers-to-send-medical-experts-to-china-to-combat-coronavirus/

From article:
“We are in very close communication with China concerning the virus. Very few cases reported in USA, but strongly on watch. We have offered China and President Xi any help that is necessary,” the president tweeted. “Our experts are extraordinary!”

From January 28 http://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/480314-us-looks-to-send-health-experts-to-china-amid

From the article:

The United States is offering to send a team of health experts to China to help in containing the deadly coronavirus outbreak.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said at a briefing Tuesday that the Trump administration has offered China’s minister of health to send a U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) team to help with the public health response to the outbreak.

“We are urging China that more cooperation and transparency are the most important steps you can take toward a more effective response,” Azar said.

Azar said the assistance was offered directly or in conjunction with the World Health Organization (WHO), but U.S. officials have yet to get the go-ahead to do so.

Also, I don't know if this is directed towards me, but, I don't think I'm being egotistical, I seek the truth. I also, DO in fact have a retrograde Jupiter in my chart lol.

And in my original post, I should have phrased the prescription drug prices in a different way. I didn't mean lowered in past tense. I was referring to the executive orders he signed in July, http://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-signing-executive-orders-lowering-drug-prices/ http://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/24/trump-announces-series-of-executive-orders-aimed-at-lowering-drug-costs.html

However, I'd like to add that Trump has expanded on this issue by revising those executive orders last month as well http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-lowering-drug-prices-putting-america-first-2/
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/516225-trump-signs-new-executive-order-aimed-at-lowering-drug-prices

posted October 04, 2020 07:30 PM            

But yes, Biden is also racist AF. I've listened to some of his earlier interviews back in the mid 90's when he was trying to pass certain bills. I remember one where he basically insinuated/implied that black youth were sociopathic because they grew up in broken, single parent homes. I think that was the same congressional speech where he called black males super predators. Clearly, blatantly racist and pandering to white fear demographics.

Also clearly he doesn't know too many black or mixed people besides Obama all that well. If he did, he would realize that while there are indeed gang, drug, etc problems (because of the severe poverty and crappy conditions), many black people are the farthest thing from sociopathic and are trying to do the best with what they have.

Since moving to the south, I've met and befriended a fair amount of black people at work, at home (we rent a couple rooms in our home and have rented to a lot of black people over the years), and socially. And while some of my friends, acquaintances, and housemates/tenants do come from single parent homes--most are and have been awesome, loving, kind, giving people. A single parent home doesn't = becoming a sociopath, Joe Biden.

Biden is a rich yuppy like Trump, neither of them hang out with us common folk, and they are both clueless and both have definite racist leaning and tendencies.

And YET AGAIN, Americans are being given a choice between crap on a stick and crap balls with sprinkles--and we actually fight and argue with each other about these choices--it must be hilarious to the psychopathic plutocrat types who don't buy into "left" or "right".

I mean look at Trump himself. For years he was a democrat and hob knobbed in the same social circles with the Clintons, etc. These folks don't give a crap about political ideologies, but only care about power, money, control, and status.

There are some rare politicians, like Sanders, who do care about political ideologies and who have deeper ideals of service etc, but these politicians are like needles in a haystack--few and far between.

Nowadays, the only real difference between the left and the right is that the right mostly has it's mask off and is overt, while the left wears a mask and pretends to be civilized. They're both more than willing to bleep over us commoners and not super rich peoples, but the right comes in rough and hard, and the left puts some lube on and slips a roofie in our drink first. But at the end of the day, both are raping the shite out of us for their real masters--the heads of banks, heads of corporations, the intelligence agencies, etc.

Why, because it's the latter which fund and powerfully influence both sides. This is how you turn a Democratic Republic into a Plutocracy with the VENEER/illusion of the former. And it's crazy, super disheartening, and depressing how many Americans buy into this contrived WWE like modern Bread and Circus, and pick sides like a football game and become WAY over attached to "their team".

News flash, neither side is playing for you unless you make 100's of Millions of dollars each year or more. F'ing delusional the lot of ye.

"Trump and the Right is our Savior!" "No, Biden and the Left is our Savior!" Just completely, f'ing delusional and living in the most distorted fantasy land possible. It's no lube vs lube, but keep having fun getting raped in the arse.