posted November 24, 2020 06:07 PM            

But the information in this post should be proof to everyone that politics is not what you think it is - a two party system with a president who holds a lot of power. Trump has mentioned deep state many times but he's never gone to the extent of exposing it. **[Editing this to say that Dhyana has corrected me - trump's team is working on exposing the deep state.]**

[The deep state works all over the world, so this impacts all countries]

Here's what other US presidents had to say about it...JFK was the last one who openly spoke abt how the deep state operates. He was also going to take some steps to thwart the deep state, for which he, and later his brother Robert, were killed

[This post is from two articles. The main source article link is at the end. The second article is just a synopsis...]

posted November 24, 2020 06:08 PM            

November 7, 2020

Ross Pittman

SOURCE ARTICLE
Dire Warnings From Past U.S. Presidents and Other High-Profile Leaders About an “Invisible Government” That Runs the U.S. With “No Allegiance To the People”

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”– George Santayana

Past presidents of the United States and other high profile political leaders have repeatedly issued warnings over the last 214 years that the U.S. government is under the control of an “invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.”

According to six of our former presidents, one vice-president, and a myriad of other high profile political leaders, an invisible government that is “incredibly evil in intent” has been in control of the U.S. government “ever since the days of Andrew Jackson” (since at least 1836). They “virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties… It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”

As a result, “we have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”

posted November 24, 2020 06:10 PM            

The warnings listed below, which appear in chronological order, began with our first president – George Washington. The last president to speak out was JFK, who was assassinated. Read what they and other political leaders have said about the invisible government.

George Washington wrote that the Illuminati want to separate the People from their Government:

“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am. The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation).

That Individuals of them may… actually had a seperation [sic] of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned.”
– George Washington, 1st President of the United States (1789–1797), from a letter that Washington wrote on October 24, 1798, which can be found in the Library of Congress.  For an analysis of Washington’s warning, see the article “Library of Congress: George Washington Warns of Illuminati”

“I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.”
—Thomas Jefferson, President of the United States (1801–1809) and principal author of the United States Declaration of Independence (1776), in a letter written to John Taylor on May 28, 1816

“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves, consisting of many and various powerful interests, combined in one mass, and held together by the cohesive power of the vast surplus in banks.”
– John C. Calhoun, Vice President (1825-1832) and U.S. Senator, from a speech given on May 27, 1836

Note that it appears that Washington’s and Jefferson’s concerns regarding bankers and separation of the people from the government was realized by 1836.  This fact was confirmed in a letter written by FDR in 1933 (see below) in which he wrote that “a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”  Jackson was the seventh president of the United States (1829-1937).  Calhoun served as Jackson’s vice-president from 1829-1832.

“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.  To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day.”
—Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography, 1913 (Appendix B)

“A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men… [W]e have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men.”
– Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913

“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something.  They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”
– Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the United States, The New Freedom, 1913

“The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government, which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation… The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both parties, … and control the majority of the newspapers and magazines in this country. They use the columns of these papers to club into submission or drive out of office public officials who refuse to do the bidding of the powerful corrupt cliques which compose the invisible government. It operates under cover of a self-created screen [and] seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies, schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public protection.”
– New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, New York Times, March 26, 1922

“Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt…Mr. Chairman, when the Federal Reserve act was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here… and that this country was to supply financial power to an international superstate — a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure.”
– Congressman Louis T. McFadden, from a speech delivered to the House of Representatives on June 10, 1932

“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
— Franklin Delano Roosevelt, 32nd President of the United States (1933–1945), in a letter to Colonel Edward M House dated November 21, 1933, as quoted in F.D.R.: His Personal Letters, 1928-1945.

“Today the path to total dictatorship in the U.S. can be laid by strictly legal means… We have a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state… It operates secretly, silently, continuously to transform our Government… This ruthless power-seeking elite is a disease of our century… This group…is answerable neither to the President, the Congress, nor the courts. It is practically irremovable.” – Senator William Jenner, 1954 speech

“The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.”
—J. Edgar Hoover, The Elks Magazine, 1956

“The very word “secrecy” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings… Our way of life is under attack. Those who make themselves our enemy are advancing around the globe… no war ever posed a greater threat to our security. If you are awaiting a finding of “clear and present danger,” then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent… For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence–on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.”
— John F Kennedy, 35th President of the United States, from a speech delivered to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961 and known as the “Secret Society” speech (click here for full transcript and audio).

“The Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world.  Do I mean conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
- Congressman Larry P. McDonald, November 1975, from the introduction to a book titled The Rockefeller File.

posted November 24, 2020 06:12 PM            

The Federal Reserve

“A power has risen up in the government greater than the people themselves…” – John C. Calhoun

“… owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people.” – Theodore Roosevelt

“… one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Bank.“  – Louis T. McFadden

In an interview with Jim Lehrer that was aired on PBS’ News Hour on September 18, 2007 that you can watch on YouTube, formal Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said, essentially, that the Federal Reserve was above the law and that no agency of government can overrule their actions:

Jim Lehrer: “What is the proper relationship, what should be the proper relationship between a chairman of the Fed and a president of the United States?”

Alan Greenspan: “Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency, and that means, basically, that there is no other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take. So long as that is in place and there is no evidence that the administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing, then what the relationships are don’t frankly matter.”

The fact that the Fed is above the law was demonstrated by current Fed chairman, Ben Bernanke, during his appearance before Congress on March 4, 2009 (as shown in this video).

Senator Bernie Sanders asked Bernanke about $2.2 trillion in American tax dollars that was lent out by Federal Reserve. Bernanke refused to provide an answer:

Senator Sanders: “Will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars? … Can you tell us who they are?”

posted November 24, 2020 06:14 PM            

David Rockefeller and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

“We have a well-organized political-action group in this country, determined to destroy our Constitution and establish a one-party state…”
– William Jenner

“The Rockefellers and their allies have, for at least fifty years, been carefully following a plan to use their economic power to gain political control of first America, and then the rest of the world.”
– Larry P. McDonald

In 1921 the stockholders of the Federal Reserve financed an organization called the “Council on Foreign Relations” (CFR).  A full discussion on the CFR is beyond the scope of this article.  Suffice it to say that the CFR likely plays a prominent role in the invisible government that we have been warned about. The CFR is alleged to be the arm of the Ruling Elite in the United States. Most influential politicians, academics and media personalities are members. The CFR uses its influence to push their New World Order agenda on the American people.

David Rockefeller, Sr is the current patriarch of the Rockefeller family. He is the only surviving grandchild of oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller, founder of Standard Oil.  Rockefeller began a lifelong association with the CFR when he joined as a director in 1949.  In Rockefeller’s 2002 autobiography “Memoirs” he wrote:

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as internationalists and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

James Warburg, son of CFR [Council on Foreign Relations] founder Paul Warburg, delivered blunt testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17, 1950:

posted November 24, 2020 06:16 PM            

“The American mind simply has not come to a realization of the evil which has been introduced into our midst. It rejects even the assumption that human creatures could espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent.”
—J. Edgar Hoover

Because of a deep rooted beliefs that the U.S. government is “for the people” and the protector of the free world, many will reject the notion of an evil shadow government.  When our beliefs are challenged or when two beliefs are inconsistent, cognitive dissonance is created. It’s human nature to try to hold our beliefs in harmony with our world view and avoid disharmony (or dissonance).

For those of you who having difficulty believing the information presented in this article, I fully  understand.  For the first 57 years of my life, I would not have believed in the possibility that a shadow government could exist.  Three years ago my world view changed. While on vacation in Mount Shasta, I came across a book titled “Global Conspiracy” that seemed strangely out of place in a metaphysical book store.  I had never heard of the author before – some guy named David Icke.  I scanned through the book and frankly didn’t believe 99% of what I read. But, I saw one thing that caught my attention in that I knew that I could easily verify Icke’s assertion.  I did my own research and turned out what Icke had stated was true.  That led me down a rabbit hole and many, many hundreds of hours of independent research.

So, keep an open mind, do your own research, and use discernment.   Beware that there is a ton of disinformation on the internet, much of which is intentionally placed to confuse the public.  At a CFR meeting on geoengineering (see the article “Millions Spent to Confuse Public About Geoengineering“),  M. Granger Morgan stated (it’s captured on video for you to see and hear for yourself):

posted November 24, 2020 06:17 PM            

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead

In addition to doing your own research, please spread the word, and get involved. The Thrive Solutions Hub is an excellent place to join with others who are taking positive action steps expose corruption and to create a world in which we can all thrive. You can watch the full Thrive movie on YouTube here.

posted November 24, 2020 06:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Below is basically what I've been saying on the different threads in this forum for the last couple of weeks. My reasons for what I've been saying didn't come from this article (which was only published on Nov 7). I've been having ongoing epiphanies, information from dreams, energetic readings of public/political figures, communication from my Soul, and careful observation & reflection on what is going on, w/out any emotional involvement or interest in taking sides.

But the information in this post should be proof to everyone that politics is not what you think it is - a two party system with a president who holds a lot of power. Trump has mentioned deep state many times but he's never gone to the extent of exposing it.

[The deep state works all over the world, so this impacts all countries]

Here's what other US presidents had to say about it...JFK was the last one who openly spoke abt how the deep state operates. He was also going to take some steps to thwart the deep state, for which he, and later his brother Robert, were killed

[This post is from two articles. The main source article link is at the end. The second article is just a synopsis...]

I'm very curious to know people's thoughts after going through this proof. Does it change anyone's mind at all in terms of viewing politics differently? Do you feel more depressed, energized or just plain blah abt it...

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I was with you until you said "Trump has mentioned deep state many times but he's never gone to the extent of exposing it." His legal team along with Sidney Powell and Lin Wood are in the process of doing just that. And, John Durham, among other U.S. attorneys around the country have been working on this. Just because there haven't been any leaks out of Durham's investigation doesn't mean nothing is happening.

posted November 24, 2020 07:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Dhyana:

I was with you until you said "Trump has mentioned deep state many times but he's never gone to the extent of exposing it." His legal team along with Sidney Powell and Lin Wood are in the process of doing just that. And, John Durham, among other U.S. attorneys around the country have been working on this. Just because there haven't been any leaks out of Durham's investigation doesn't mean nothing is happening.

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Fair enough. If that's what his team is doing, then more power to him. I've stayed away from politics so am not up to date with what they're doing, except in the most peripheral sense, mostly bc i don't want to get sucked in...

But with the power the deep state has...money to buy anything in the world, & completely holding themselves above the law, do you think they will let trump succeed in exposing them, when they haven't been exposed for over 200 years? Jfk was killed bc he tried to expose them

posted November 25, 2020 01:26 AM            

The below is then Chairman of the Board of Governors, Alan Greenspan admitting on video to the interviewer that basically the Federal Reserve is above the law and both Presidential and Congressional oversight. Course, he does it in couched, "diplomatic-political speak" and legalistic terms, that might fly over some peoples' heads:
http://youtu.be/ol3mEe8TH7w?t=459

The above seems so mundane and banal..and yet the implications are tremendous and should be both shocking and upsetting to a thinking person. The entity that controls our very currency, the life blood of the country, believes that it should only make decisions based on what they think and not what the public or elected officials think.

This is the Federal Reserve being asked about 9 trillion dollars that is unaccounted for and basically magically missing. Note how she constantly deflects and plays dumb avoiding answering the direct questions with direct answers and at the end, basically saying, I have no idea where the money is (even though she is the General Inspector of the Federal Reserve--this is what we called a "racket" in yester years):

http://youtu.be/1QK4bblyfsc

posted November 25, 2020 01:47 AM            

Yep, Trump sure does know how to pick them. Here is an excellent expose on Steve Mnuchin, Swamp Monster Extraordinaire--his background, his history, etc:
http://youtu.be/gxc5FpmBAzQ

If Trump was a moral, ethical, compassionate, upstanding, and deeply spiritual man, I could see maybe he would want to oust the deep state. However, the former is clearly not the case from any angle or perspective while looking at him. What would he have to gain by trying to oust the secret/double government? That's a good way to get assassinated, thrown in prison, or the like. Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself. He couldn't be anymore textbook narcissistic and ultra shallow if he tried.

The only thing I could possibly see is that Trump having such strong Mars and Leo energy combo, and strong Uranian extremism, and such a Yooge ego, that maybe some actions of the deep state towards him have p!ssed him off and he is trying to get revenge, but even if that is the case--that is not for the American people and the country, but for his own yooge ego. The truth is otherwise,, he likes and admires the plutocrats--the ultimate "winners" by his shallow, materialistic definition of "winning" and winners. They are wealthy and powerful like he would like to be. He's a guppy and they are great white sharks wealth and power wise.

Trump is not the kind of person who say in school, stuck up for the underdog or the kid getting bullied--he's the kind of person who would have been doing the bullying. How is this so patently obvious to me, and yet so hard for some here to see? Why the extreme attachment and sycophantic love and obsession with him?

posted November 25, 2020 05:07 AM            

I've always suspected that you do not get to see the true powers in the world. Just thinking about the concept of hidden power, the most potent power is that which cannot be identified as such. This is not omitted from academic discourse on politics. However, I think what puts people off looking into it is a sense of helplessness. In the face of great power, people feel that they are just a speck. They forget that specks can come together to make an impact.

But even this is simplistic. There will be many reasons some people do not want to scratch the surface. Think of the amount of people living in poverty; they cannot be expected to use their resources to organise and expose a shadow government when they are wondering where their next meal will come from.

It's a self-perpetuating cycle. The inequalities and divisions in the world, created by systems presented in a language that many people don't understand, keep people rooted in trying to solve their personal social and survival issues. So many simply do not have the resources to challenge the status quo because of the status quo.

posted November 25, 2020 01:27 PM            

George R.R. Martin placed one very potent truth from our world into his fantastical world of Fire and Ice. In this series, what everyone was afraid of and subservient to from the get go, was not the Dragons and the Mother of same, the White Walkers, the Lannisters, etc, but the Iron Bank of Braavos. Even the Lannisters licked their boots because they and everyone had to borrow from them at times. But the all mighty bank was ever more in the background. They didn't flaunt their power. They were reserved and well controlled.

This is parallel to what is going on in our world sans the magic, dragons, white walkers, the medieval like setting, etc.

It is often said that only comedians and writers of fiction can openly talk about deeply uncomfortable truths in a way that we will listen and accept. Perhaps no one knew that better than George Carlin, who also made veiled and not so veiled references to the ultimate powers in the world. He straight up told us constantly, "they own us".

Have not watched that series yet, though have heard a lot about it. I'm sure they make some good points--but they get Yeshua all completely wrong. When one has experience with a person while being very accurately intuitive/psychic, kind of a different perspective than people theorizing willy nilly about something like they do.

posted November 25, 2020 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
Very well said Voix. Also to add, people that have had the "benefit" of having to plumb their own shadow side, like you (Saturn and Pluto in 1st) and I (Sun, ruler of chart in Cap square Pluto ruler of IC, and Moon conjunct Saturn), are more apt to honestly and deeply look at the world without flinching.

George R.R. Martin placed one very potent truth from our world into his fantastical world of Fire and Ice. In this series, what everyone was afraid of and subservient to from the get go, was not the Dragons and the Mother of same, the White Walkers, the Lannisters, etc, but the Iron Bank of Braavos. Even the Lannisters licked their boots because they and everyone had to borrow from them at times. But the all mighty bank was ever more in the background. They didn't flaunt their power. They were reserved and well controlled.

This is parallel to what is going on in our world sans the magic, dragons, white walkers, the medieval like setting, etc.

It is often said that only comedians and writers of fiction can openly talk about deeply uncomfortable truths in a way that we will listen and accept. Perhaps no one knew that better than George Carlin, who also made veiled and not so veiled references to the ultimate powers in the world. He straight up told us constantly, "they own us".

Have not watched that series yet, though have heard a lot about it. I'm sure they make some good points--but they get Yeshua all completely wrong. When one has experience with a person while being very accurately intuitive/psychic, kind of a different perspective than people theorizing willy nilly about something like they do.

That, and Yeshua has the backing of the most verified psychic source in the world so far, the Edgar Cayce work, and then the most studied AND anomalous historical artifact in the world--the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud of Turin is a snap-shot in space/time of Yeshua's energetic resurrection process which led him to becoming Robert Monroe's "He/She" the ageless, sleepless, non eating/drinking immortal super human.

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Yeah... I still remember when I first starting looking into astrology and came to LL. Ami was one of the first people to help me with my chart and her words have haunted me since: "it's a hard chart". It was a hard chart, however, at 38 years old, my life is faaaaaaar easier than my so-called 'young and free' years. I started life with those energies, and I guess I've learned how to appreciate them and channel them, for the most part. The experiences weren't great, but I would be more vulnerable in this world now if I hadn't had them.

I see that book series in my work all the time, perhaps I should read it

I love George Carlin. Guy was a prophet although he'd hate me for saying that. He actually features in the Zeitgeist movies frequently, along with other great minds. Honestly Galactic, I think you'd love them. Nothing is perfect, but they are very helpful in how they bring together many strands and paint a picture of the grey.