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posted November 25, 2020 12:49 PM            

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And so it begins...

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posted November 25, 2020 01:47 PM            

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Rudy just presented curious facts about PA mail-in ballots. ~ 22,000 mail-in ballots were mailed in before PA mailed them out. Yes, that happened.

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http://twitter.com/Mayascribe/status/1331661846093451267

Pennsylvania must have advanced technology that alters the space/time continuum!

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posted November 25, 2020 02:06 PM            

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The future of elections: Time travel!

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posted November 25, 2020 04:30 PM            

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Rudy, really

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posted November 25, 2020 04:38 PM            

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The joke is on the Dems.

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posted November 26, 2020 06:24 AM            

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It seems, as per an analyst on Twitter, 14 out 67 counties used Dominion systems in Pennsylvania.

It is 100% Fair that Penn GOP void all those county results until the Dominion Lawsuits are completed by Sidney Powell.

Let the remaining 53 Counties alone certify the elections.

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posted November 26, 2020 09:18 AM            

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It's those Dem counties where fraud occurred.

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posted November 26, 2020 03:01 PM            

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GOP should not shift the goalposts.
By all means re-count the Dem Heavy Counties, through out all the proven fake ballots but do terminate the Dominion Counties of Pennsylvania too. This will make things very fair, as Dominion is the Evil Software in Pennsylvania, as per Rudy, Powell etc.

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posted November 26, 2020 03:41 PM            

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Originally posted by juniperb:
Rudy, really

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Hey, laugh while you can.
He brought down the mafia.

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posted November 26, 2020 04:36 PM            

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Dominion could blow up the whole election, but the other arguments are good without it.

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posted November 26, 2020 04:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Dominion could blow up the whole election, but the other arguments are good without it.

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Randall, I agree. Also, I think it was Joe DiGenova that said the Dominion aspect of the case will take more time. That it was a strategic decision to have Sidney work that side of the case independently and Jenna Elllis and Rudy would work on the other issues.

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posted November 26, 2020 04:50 PM            

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Dominion is a problem we need to fix for the security of future elections. The legislative argument is powerful even without fraud. That would apply to PA and GA. I’m not sure about state number three, but those spikes in MI are indicative of fraud that is undeniable.

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posted November 26, 2020 04:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Dominion is a problem we need to fix for the security of future elections. The legislative argument is powerful even without fraud. That would apply to PA and GA. I’m not sure about state number three, but those spikes in MI are indicative of fraud that is undeniable.

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Absolutely. We can't keep having half the country believe the election was illegitimate every four years.

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posted November 27, 2020 02:57 PM            

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The Third Circuit Court of Appeals rejects Trump’s lawsuit to challenge the Pennsylvania election results, saying Trump's lawyers offered no evidence of fraud and Rudy Giuliani said to the Judge that the Trump Campaign does not plead Election Fraud.

All 3 judges who tossed this lawsuit are GOP appointees and are heavily conservative.

Trump will now appeal to SCOTUS to challenge the Third Circuit Decision based on Rudy's Facts that they ARE NOT PLEADING ELECTION FRAUD. Please note this. They talk trash in media hearings to grift more cash from MAGAts but in the courts they are pleading something else.

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posted November 27, 2020 03:16 PM            

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No, they were talking to the legislature about fraud in hopes that they will hold back their electoral votes. PA rests on constitutional violations, such as Article 2, equal protection, and due process. Isn't it disenfranchisement for poll workers to allow ballots for Biden that have signature questions but cast out Trump ballots over those concerns?

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posted November 27, 2020 05:23 PM            

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PA rests on constitutional violations, such as Article 2, equal protection, and due process.

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So, if I understand correctly, Constitutional, equal protection, and due process issues only were argued before the PA Third Circuit, whereas the case of fraud is being argued in key states, such as the recently filed Complaint in Georgia and Michigan.

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posted November 27, 2020 06:21 PM            

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Due process and equal protection are also constitutional. Constitutional issues were also argued in other states, especially in GA. If you read the statement from the Trump legal team, it mentions SCOTUS in the first paragraph but thanks the PA legislature for listening to the fraud claims. That was a strategy to influence the casting of their electoral votes. PA was the best chance to get to the Supreme Court, so they wanted to focus on the Constitution. A win there could be applicable (at least in spirit) similarly to other states on the same issues, and this could potentially influence those states to withhold their electoral votes.

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posted November 27, 2020 07:17 PM            

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Looks like the PA legislature is doing just that.
http://m.theepochtimes.com/legislature-will-seek-to-reclaim-power-to-appoint-electors-pennsylvania-state-senator_3596107.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=break ing-2020-11-27-4

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posted November 28, 2020 09:05 AM            

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<< Isn't it disenfranchisement for poll workers to allow ballots for Biden that have signature questions but cast out Trump ballots over those concerns? >>
It certainly is if it can be proven that the Poll Worker sees the Vote Caste before comparing Signatures. What I understand is that there are two envelopes, the first envelope helps validate signatures. After validation, the secret ballot is sent for counting.
Logically, there is no way for Poll Workers to know who is on the ballot before signature validation.
Please correct me if I am wrong about this.

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