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Topic: Forensics Report Of Michigan Dominion Voting Machines
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iQ
Moderator Posts: 6260
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 04:12 PM
  
<< The servers were seized in Germany. President Trump won 410 electoral votes and also won CA. I think we should all take a deep breath, relax, and enjoy the show. If there was foreign interference in our election by China, certain things are about to happen. >>Proof of this Claim? I am not asking for CNN etc. Has even Newsmax made this claim? I think without tangible evidence, this is going into Mental Illness Territory and QAnon Cognitive Dissonance Territory. Biden thrashed Trump by 7 million votes. Trump winning California is as believable as Dems winning 99% Vote Share in South Dakota. The allegations were believable regarding voter count tally errors possibly in Georgia or Arizona. Beyond that it is all David Koresh and Marshal Applewhite type Kool Aid stuff. It is impossible for 4 years of Trump Appointees and Republican Judges to unite with Democrats and Foreign Powers to unseat a bumbling, bankrupt conman who insults his own appointees after saying he hires the best people, and presides unapologetically over the deaths of 300,000 American Citizens.
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teasel
Knowflake Posts: 16822
From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
We know. You only believe the Crackerjack News Network.Dominion software was intentionally designed to influence election results:
[URL=http://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campa ign=b]http://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_camp aign=b[/URL] reaking-2020-12-14-2
I don't have CNN anymore, and didn't watch it much before we got rid of cable. You only believe fake news that supports your own beliefs and bias. I was going to take the holidays off from this particular forum, because I'm trying to find some kind of Christmas spirit. Nothing like that is available here. IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 3653
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Up until this year, I was never afraid that my vote wouldn't be counted, because the president was actively working to suppress the vote of Democrats, and to steal the election. He didn't even try to hide it.I've also never seen so many people actively ignore reality, in order to support his efforts.
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MarsSaturnDelight
Knowflake Posts: 383
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Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 16, 2020 06:18 AM
Anyone have an update on this? IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 3653
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2020 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
When a source previously makes multiple false and inaccurate claims, then yes, one should rightly question the source. We're not talking about say, a fellow forum member who is just talking off the cuff from memory and who may make a mistake or two here and there by accident, we're talking signed Affidavits and legal court proceedings, where one should very well make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's. And who among us is actually qualified to check the claims anyways? How much do you know about computer programming and the like? Speaking for self, I don't know diddly and have no way to check those specific claims. So yes, of course I'm going to focus on things that I can actually check and logically think about, such as past track record with truth telling or lack about more obvious and easily checkable things. Signed,
One without a dog in the fight P.S., this is the problem with developing and getting attached to belief systems. It narrows ones focus and distorts one's perceptions. The ideal state for figuring out truth is equal measures of skepticism and open mindedness simultaneously. Not believing and not necessarily disbelieving, but constantly testing, asking questions, looking for verification, evidence, and/or holistic logic.
You and I may not be computer experts, but the country is literally swarming with them. So the claims made by the forensic reports should be easy to verify or dispute, not just disparaged. Here is the pdf of the report:
https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20423772-antrim-county-forensics-report According to the report, both the ballot-adjudication logs and the security logs for the Nov. 3 general election appear to have been removed; logs for prior elections are still present on the machines. Likewise, all server security logs prior to 11:03 pm on November 4, 2020 are
missing. This means that all security logs for the day after the election, on
election day, and prior to election day are gone. Security logs are very important
to an audit trail, forensics, and for detecting advanced persistent threats... That is a pretty BOLD claim and if people disagree with it, how come they don't have their own cyber experts examining the machines and saying differently? No, you don't see that. You see a barrage of articles disparaging the claim BUT NOT PROVIDING ANY EVIDENCE OF THE CONTRARY. Let that sink in... IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
Knowflake Posts: 383
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Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 16, 2020 09:18 AM
The most logical and sensible thing to do/have done is for trump to order a recount by hand.That would be unequivocal. And put this to bed. IP: Logged |
iQ
Moderator Posts: 6260
From: Lyra
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 16, 2020 09:32 AM
Exactly, a recount by hand in the disputed counties should put the matter to rest.IP: Logged |
Blind writer
Knowflake Posts: 849
From: Texas, USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2020 01:50 PM
A manual recount was requested from the very beginning. Audits have also been called for repeatedly. The respective Secretaries of State refuse to cooperate. The recounts are a rehash of election night, by reusing the machines to aid in the count. The signature audit in Georgia is not for Fulton county, where all the problems occurred, but in Cobb county, which has been fairly orderly. Election officials refuse to cooperate in Nevada, denying access to machines, access to the ballots. Judges grant only three days to accumulate evidence from people that literally lock their office when presented with a subpoena. The cases are being dropped on technicalities, instead of their merits.You see why people are angry? This is a denial of due process, a lack of transparency, and a refusal to allow the ability to ascertain the truth. To have faith in an election, these things are necessary, but are instead being draped in a cloak of uncertainty. No one can trust an election that is so shady. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
Knowflake Posts: 383
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posted December 16, 2020 02:01 PM
I have just read that there is a going to be a recount by hand starting tomorrow.Whether this is true or not, hope it happens. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
Knowflake Posts: 849
From: Texas, USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted December 16, 2020 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have just read that there is a going to be a recount by hand starting tomorrow.Whether this is true or not, hope it happens.
Should have happened a month ago, honestly. I have seen photos just now of observers being cordoned off thirty or more feet away from the tables, by metal gates. This is in Georgia. This is exactly the same nonsense that happened election night. No meaningful access. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
Moderator Posts: 3180
From: Sound
Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 16, 2020 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I have just read that there is a going to be a recount by hand starting tomorrow.Whether this is true or not, hope it happens.
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MarsSaturnDelight
Knowflake Posts: 383
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Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 18, 2020 02:56 AM
The hand recount in Antrim has been completed, by the looks of things.No change. Pretty much renders this forensic audit as a distraction, and above all an embarrassing waste of time. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
Knowflake Posts: 849
From: Texas, USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted December 18, 2020 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
The hand recount in Antrim has been completed, by the looks of things.No change. Pretty much renders this forensic audit as a distraction, and above all an embarrassing waste of time.
A couple things. 1) Confirming the count for a county is neither “embarrassing” nor a “waste of time” for anyone that values election integrity. 2) No one is overly concerned about confirming the count in republican-leaning Antrim county. Everywhere should be as accurate as possible from the get-go, so that should relieve the residents of that particular county. The population of Antrim county is too small to affect the result in Michigan, though. Moreover, this issue is unable to be entirely resolved, due to the fact that audit logs are completely missing and the machines have been tampered with. This alone is a huge problem, and violates state law. There is an unnaturally high adjudication rate in numerous areas around the country that utilized the same machines. Adjudication bypasses the observation phase of normal ballot counting (but let’s be real, poll watchers weren’t able to effectively do their jobs to begin with). Everyone is far more concerned about confirming the count in Milwaukee, Detroit, Pittsburgh/Philadelphia, Atlanta, Carson City/Clark county, and Maricopa county, because those can affect the overall election outcome. Everyone is also particularly concerned about the huge number of illegally cast votes. Everyone should also be cognizant of the fact that the director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, has confirmed there was indeed foreign meddling in this election. A lot of thing are in simultaneous play, here. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight
Knowflake Posts: 383
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Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 18, 2020 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by Blind writer:
A couple things.1) Confirming the count for a county is neither “embarrassing” nor a “waste of time” for anyone that values election integrity. 2) No one is overly concerned about confirming the count in republican-leaning Antrim county. Everywhere should be as accurate as possible from the get-go, so that should relieve the residents of that particular county. The population of Antrim county is too small to affect the result in Michigan, though. Moreover, this issue is unable to be entirely resolved, due to the fact that audit logs are completely missing and the machines have been tampered with. This alone is a huge problem, and violates state law. There is an unnaturally high adjudication rate in numerous areas around the country that utilized the same machines. Adjudication bypasses the observatory phase of normal ballot counting (but let’s be real, poll watchers weren’t able to effectively do their jobs to begin with). Everyone is far more concerned about confirming the count in Milwaukee, Detroit, Pittsburgh/Philadelphia, Atlanta, Carson City/Clark county, and Maricopa county, because those can affect the overall election outcome. Everyone is also particularly concerned about the huge number of illegally cast votes. Everyone should also be cognizant of the fact that the director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, has confirmed there was indeed foreign meddling in this election. A lot of thing are in simultaneous play, here.
I was referring to the forensic audit as embarrassing and a waste of time. It was quite explicit in my post. But, I guess you have a habit of misreading things. The count should have happened in the first place, as I have always said. Rather than the pantomime that ensued that got you all wet and hysterical. IP: Logged |
Blind writer
Knowflake Posts: 849
From: Texas, USA
Registered: May 2012
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posted December 18, 2020 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by MarsSaturnDelight:
I was referring to the forensic audit as embarrassing and a waste of time. It was quite explicit in my post. But, I guess you have a habit of misreading things.The count should have happened in the first place, as I have always said. Rather than the pantomime that ensued that got you all wet and hysterical.
Yikes, you’re incredibly rude, and probably should spend time in self-reflection. I’ll refrain from conversing with you further, because it’s worthless to communicate with people that resort to insults. IP: Logged | |
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