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Topic: Forensics Report Of Michigan Dominion Voting Machines
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 135683 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 10:47 AM
http://www.depernolaw.com/uploads/2/7/0/2/27029178/antrim_michigan_forensics_report_%5B121320%5D_v2_%5Bredacted%5D.pdf IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight Knowflake Posts: 383 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 14, 2020 11:15 AM
If this is legit then we’re in for a ride that’s for sure!Did they prove though, that errors had occurred this election? Didn’t read it all. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 3180 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 14, 2020 12:03 PM
quote: We conclude that the Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This leads to voter or election fraud.
Oh dear, doesn't look good. Is the 2020 election the only election which involved the Dominion voting machines? ------------------ Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face ~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~ IP: Logged |
LuckyLeo Knowflake Posts: 105 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 14, 2020 12:30 PM
Thank you for posting this Randall! I lost track of this story over the last few days. Didn’t read it all yet because I’m at work right now, but a quick glance and I see that it states they found an error rate in the machines of over 68%, whereas the allowable error rate per election guidelines is .0008%. The report also shows that someone tried to delete information from the machine on November 21 which the report interprets as an attempt to delete evidence. To anyone interested in reading this, look towards the end of the report. Not surprised AT ALL. Where does this go from here? No court seems interested in looking at any of this. Not that I blame them, I wouldn’t want my house burned down either. Just as an aside....the fact that it has taken more than a month to audit these machines is so wrong. In future contracts with companies supplying election software/ technology, it absolutely must be in the contract that they have to submit the machines for audits and answer questions immediately upon request. I am assuming this is not in Dominion’s contract since they seem to feel they can essentially give everyone the finger and walk away. The fact that they can even say no to answering questions is so crazy. IP: Logged |
LuckyLeo Knowflake Posts: 105 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 14, 2020 12:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Oh dear, doesn't look good. Is the 2020 election the only election which involved the Dominion voting machines?
I don’t think so, Voix. I think they’ve been used in years prior. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3653 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 12:54 PM
Well, I can't pretend I am surprised. It just confirmed what some of us knew all along in spite of the constant gaslighting and media censorship. To be honest, I am not even angry anymore. I don't have any more anger juice left in me. This whole election has been draining on my soul and psyche and I need to restore myself to wholeness regardless of what is going to happen moving forward. I am just happy that the truth has come out. What will those who don't want to hear the truth do with it? God only knows...
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Blind writer Knowflake Posts: 849 From: Texas, USA Registered: May 2012
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posted December 14, 2020 12:55 PM
LuckyLeo, they’re trying to run out the clock.As for the courts refusing to take the cases, it’s a disaster. Almost all of the cases were dropped due to technicalities; lack of standing, no jurisdiction, laches/timing - instead of addressing the case merits and ordering discovery, or examining witness testimony. This is a hot potato being punted from court to court. Judges either don’t want to touch it because it’s too much responsibility, or their personal political bias is getting in the way. That the courts are shirking their duty to give due process is exactly why so many millions of people are getting increasingly angry by the day. This can only get worse as time passes. As for this particular audit evidence, it’s pretty damning. IP: Logged |
MarsSaturnDelight Knowflake Posts: 383 From: Registered: Dec 2014
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posted December 14, 2020 01:32 PM
Looking at this objectively, it’s one thing saying that the machines are capable of being compromised, but it’s another thing saying that there was actual evidence sinister doings.Again, not read all of it but the conclusion only states the former. If someone can be bothered to cut me an excerpt stating actual forensic evidence of criminality in the report, I would be most appreciative 😁 IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 14, 2020 01:45 PM
I've been reading up on the guy who signed the report, Russell James Ramsland, Jr., and it seems that he has been involved in making some inaccurate statements and allegations in the past, including mixing up Michigan and Minnesota areas. Then there is this: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/d etroit/2020/12/04/michigan-lawsuit-makes-wild-claims-voter-turnout/3829654001/ I say the above with being somewhat open minded to potential election fraud. I am a bit open minded to this, because about a year ago, my spouse had a dream where she saw that Trump would win slightly over Biden, but not stay in office. She has had a good track record for accurate/verified precognitive dreams in the past. However, with that said, predicting the future accurately is one of the hardest things to do psychically, because the future is constantly in flux due to the nature of freewill and its influence on the manifestation of events. Anyways, it looks like we need to be skeptical of Ramsland, however technical and official sounding that this report may seem. I have no dog in this fight. I have already stated that I believe we lose whether Biden or Trump wins. I don't view either as servants of the people, but both as corrupt and servants of money, ego, and/or very wealthy and powerful groups. The truth is, is that the plutocrats wouldn't let in any candidate in past the Primaries etc, that would be for true, core, positive anti corruption change. This is why Bernie Sanders was so blocked/hindered by his own party and the DNC. Yes, things are that corrupt and controlled. We are on a sinking ship and no real change will come till the Sun destroys the electrical grid system, which even to a number of mainstream sources like NASA is really only a matter of time--especially when you consider how fast our Earth's magnetic field is decreasing. And new research indicates that it's likely that this upcoming Solar Maximum cycle may be a doozy--much stronger than previously forecasted. Meanwhile, I would recommend not getting caught up in the drama and Bread and Circuses. It is designed to polarize, to anger, to divide us commoners among ourselves. The simple truth is, if you have watched the Harvard Professor's Ted X talk that I linked earlier on another thread--American politics and voting system has been an outright sham and dog and pony show for decades now. Even Princeton's research study on policy in connection to majority population sentiment vs special interests has shown that consistently, it is the special interests whose will, wishes, and decision win out. How, via big money in politics. It is a system that gradually over time got more and more influenced by big money. Now, it is a rotting, stinking mess. Nothing new under the sun here. Depressing yes, fixable, not likely without a revolution. Is a revolution even possible. Very unlikely when everyone is tapped/spied on and the US military is the most powerful and advanced in the world, and certainly would be set on the American people should a massive uprising occur. And why do you think that the police forces have been increasingly militarized over the recent decades? For that very possibility or eventuality. Hence why the Creative Forces via nature shall be intervening to level the playing field entirely. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16822 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 01:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by LuckyLeo: I don’t think so, Voix. I think they’ve been used in years prior.
So they were used when Trump won? IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 6260 From: Lyra Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:01 PM
<< Meanwhile, I would recommend not getting caught up in the drama and Bread and Circuses. It is designed to polarize, to anger, to divide us commoners among ourselves. The simple truth is, if you have watched the Harvard Professor's Ted X talk that I linked earlier on another thread--American politics and voting system has been an outright sham and dog and pony show for decades now. Even Princeton's research study on policy in connection to majority population sentiment vs special interests has shown that consistently, it is the special interests whose will, wishes, and decision win out. How, via big money in politics. It is a system that gradually over time got more and more influenced by big money. Now, it is a rotting, stinking mess. >>IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 14, 2020 02:06 PM
My Cap Mercury widely conjunct the Chart ruler the Sun in Cap and trine 1st House Virgo Jupiter within .5 degrees, always reorients me back to the very big and very holistic picture perspective. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3653 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Oh dear, doesn't look good. Is the 2020 election the only election which involved the Dominion voting machines?
Perhaps the statement below from Russell James Ramsland, Jr. might answer your question, with the most relevant parts bolded for emphasis.“A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, or audit trail. Our examination of the server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication,” he added later." From: https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bre aking-2020-12-14-2 IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 3180 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 14, 2020 02:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by LuckyLeo: I don’t think so, Voix. I think they’ve been used in years prior.
What a can of worms that is then. If they prove that this was done intentionally in this case, then that should call into question the legitimacy of any other election which involved these machines. ------------------ Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face ~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~ IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 3180 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted December 14, 2020 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Perhaps the statement below from Russell James Ramsland, Jr. might answer your question, with the most relevant parts bolded for emphasis.
“A staggering number of votes required adjudication.[b] This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, or audit trail. Our examination of the server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication,” he added later." From: https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bre aking-2020-12-14-2 [/B]
Thanks for this Belage, I missed your response before I posted the above. ------------------ Face a situation fearlessly, and there is no situation to face ~ Florence Scovel Shinn ~ IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3653 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:31 PM
ETA: Not directed at anyone here, but what I have seen online in some of the responses to the finding. If you cannot attack the forensic report, then attack those who did it. With the many cyber IT experts now in existence, it shouldn't be hard to determine if the findings of the report were faulty. Photos of the server and coding were taken. Have other IT experts look at them to debunk the findings. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16822 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: So they were used when Trump won?
Asking again. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 3653 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by iQ: << Meanwhile, I would recommend not getting caught up in the drama and Bread and Circuses. It is designed to polarize, to anger, to divide us commoners among ourselves. The simple truth is, if you have watched the Harvard Professor's Ted X talk that I linked earlier on another thread--American politics and voting system has been an outright sham and dog and pony show for decades now. Even Princeton's research study on policy in connection to majority population sentiment vs special interests has shown that consistently, it is the special interests whose will, wishes, and decision win out. How, via big money in politics. It is a system that gradually over time got more and more influenced by big money. Now, it is a rotting, stinking mess. >>
quote: Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: I've been reading up on the guy who signed the report, Russell James Ramsland, Jr., and it seems that he has been involved in making some inaccurate statements and allegations in the past, including mixing up Michigan and Minnesota areas. Then there is this: http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/d etroit/2020/12/04/michigan-lawsuit-makes-wild-claims-voter-turnout/3829654001/ I say the above with being somewhat open minded to potential election fraud. I am a bit open minded to this, because about a year ago, my spouse had a dream where she saw that Trump would win slightly over Biden, but not stay in office. She has had a good track record for accurate/verified precognitive dreams in the past. However, with that said, predicting the future accurately is one of the hardest things to do psychically, because the future is constantly in flux due to the nature of freewill and its influence on the manifestation of events. Anyways, it looks like we need to be skeptical of Ramsland, however technical and official sounding that this report may seem. I have no dog in this fight. I have already stated that I believe we lose whether Biden or Trump wins. I don't view either as servants of the people, but both as corrupt and servants of money, ego, and/or very wealthy and powerful groups. The truth is, is that the plutocrats wouldn't let in any candidate in past the Primaries etc, that would be for true, core, positive anti corruption change. This is why Bernie Sanders was so blocked/hindered by his own party and the DNC. Yes, things are that corrupt and controlled. We are on a sinking ship and no real change will come till the Sun destroys the electrical grid system, which even to a number of mainstream sources like NASA is really only a matter of time--especially when you consider how fast our Earth's magnetic field is decreasing. And new research indicates that it's likely that this upcoming Solar Maximum cycle may be a doozy--much stronger than previously forecasted. Meanwhile, I would recommend not getting caught up in the drama and Bread and Circuses. It is designed to polarize, to anger, to divide us commoners among ourselves. The simple truth is, if you have watched the Harvard Professor's Ted X talk that I linked earlier on another thread--American politics and voting system has been an outright sham and dog and pony show for decades now. Even Princeton's research study on policy in connection to majority population sentiment vs special interests has shown that consistently, it is the special interests whose will, wishes, and decision win out. How, via big money in politics. It is a system that gradually over time got more and more influenced by big money. Now, it is a rotting, stinking mess. Nothing new under the sun here. Depressing yes, fixable, not likely without a revolution. Is a revolution even possible. Very unlikely when everyone is tapped/spied on and the US military is the most powerful and advanced in the world, and certainly would be set on the American people should a massive uprising occur. And why do you think that the police forces have been increasingly militarized over the recent decades? For that very possibility or eventuality. Hence why the Creative Forces via nature shall be intervening to level the playing field entirely.
Until this year, I never believe American elections were fraudulent. I never believed the powers that be usually pick the winner. I used to laugh at those who refused to vote because they didn't buy into the farce. Well, this year has been eye opening for me. I will have a hard time getting excited about casting my vote in future elections. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16822 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Asking again.
And again. Were they used when trump won? Does this make his presidency invalid? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16822 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 02:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Until this year, I never believe American elections were fraudulent. I never believed the powers that be usually pick the winner. I used to laugh at those who refused to vote because they didn't buy into the farce.Well, this year has been eye opening for me. I will have a hard time getting excited about casting my vote in future elections.
Up until this year, I was never afraid that my vote wouldn't be counted, because the president was actively working to suppress the vote of Democrats, and to steal the election. He didn't even try to hide it. I've also never seen so many people actively ignore reality, in order to support his efforts. IP: Logged |
GalacticCoreExplosion Knowflake Posts: 2064 From: Somewhere Registered: Sep 2019
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posted December 14, 2020 03:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: ETA: Not directed at anyone here, but what I have seen online in some of the responses to the finding. If you cannot attack the forensic report, then attack those who did it. With the many cyber IT experts now in existence, it shouldn't be hard to determine if the findings of the report were faulty. Photos of the server and coding were taken. Have other IT experts look at them to debunk the findings.
When a source previously makes multiple false and inaccurate claims, then yes, one should rightly question the source. We're not talking about say, a fellow forum member who is just talking off the cuff from memory and who may make a mistake or two here and there by accident, we're talking signed Affidavits and legal court proceedings, where one should very well make sure they dot their i's and cross their t's. And who among us is actually qualified to check the claims anyways? How much do you know about computer programming and the like? Speaking for self, I don't know diddly and have no way to check those specific claims. So yes, of course I'm going to focus on things that I can actually check and logically think about, such as past track record with truth telling or lack about more obvious and easily checkable things. Signed, One without a dog in the fight P.S., this is the problem with developing and getting attached to belief systems. It narrows ones focus and distorts one's perceptions. The ideal state for figuring out truth is equal measures of skepticism and open mindedness simultaneously. Not believing and not necessarily disbelieving, but constantly testing, asking questions, looking for verification, evidence, and/or holistic logic. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135683 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 03:11 PM
The servers were seized in Germany. President Trump won 410 electoral votes and also won CA. I think we should all take a deep breath, relax, and enjoy the show. If there was foreign interference in our election by China, certain things are about to happen. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 16822 From: http://forum.astro.com/cgi/forum.cgi?action=viewprofile;username=u36170365 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: [b] Oh dear, doesn't look good. Is the 2020 election the only election which involved the Dominion voting machines?
Perhaps the statement below from Russell James Ramsland, Jr. might answer your question, with the most relevant parts bolded for emphasis.“A staggering number of votes required adjudication. This was a 2020 issue not seen in previous election cycles still stored on the server. This is caused by intentional errors in the system. The intentional errors lead to bulk adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, or audit trail. Our examination of the server logs indicates that this high error rate was incongruent with patterns from previous years. The statement attributing these issues to human error is not consistent with the forensic evaluation, which points more correctly to systemic machine and/or software errors. The systemic errors are intentionally designed to create errors in order to push a high volume of ballots to bulk adjudication,” he added later." From: https://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=news&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=bre aking-2020-12-14-2 [/B][/QUOTE] I don’t believe this at all. I certainly don’t believe that source. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135683 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 03:53 PM
We know. You only believe the Crackerjack News Network.Dominion software was intentionally designed to influence election results: http://www.theepochtimes.com/dominion-software-intentionally-designed-to-influence-election-results-forensics-report_3617675.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=b reaking-2020-12-14-2 IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 135683 From: Your Friendly Neighborhood Juris Doctorate. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 14, 2020 03:55 PM
Logs for previous years are still viewable, but 2020 logs were manually removed: http://www.theepochtimes.com/crucial-logs-missing-from-antrim-county-dominion-voting-machines-forensics-report_3617768.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breakin g-2020-12-14-4IP: Logged | |