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Topic: GOP Texas lawmaker introduces bill to allow death penalty for women who have abortion
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BlueRoamer
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posted March 17, 2021 07:20 PM
  
I love when men try and tell women what to do with their bodiesMaybe women should get to tell men what to do with their penises then? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted March 17, 2021 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
I love when men try and tell women what to do with their bodiesMaybe women should get to tell men what to do with their penises then?
 I had some suggestions that I almost posted - a few were practical, and the others would go against the TOS. IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 17, 2021 08:09 PM
What shiit arguments these are.Imagine using a lexigram to defend abortion. lol quote:
Originally posted by BlueRoamer:
I love when men try and tell women what to do with their bodiesMaybe women should get to tell men what to do with their penises then?
I love it when women tell men they have no say in whether the child they fathered is going to live or die. "What to do with their bodies" is a euphemism for "have your unborn child killed." Unless you are a radical anarchist, probably you support government imposed laws prohibiting murder. ie The government telling you what you can and can not "do with your body." How about assault? Or rape? Or theft? Would take a real fascist authoritarian to support laws against those examples of doing whatever you want with your body. This whiney, adolescent "I'll do what I want and damn the consequences" mentality is nauseating. IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 17, 2021 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer:
Surely there must be caveats?While some perhaps could, no one should be expected to carry, birth or raise a baby created through rape or incest, that is more inhumane than abortion, and is not a decision that should be made by anyone but the victim. They've already had their body forcibly taken by the perpetrator, they should not be retraumatised/punished by having their body taken by the state under the threat of death.
The need for caveats might be an arguable position, but the pro abortion community's reliance on these outlier situations is dishonest. Presenting the proverbial 11 year old pregnant incest victim is cheap manipulative politics. The anti abortion crowd could likewise present examples of women having abortions as a form of political resistance or praising their "post abortion high." I'm seeing many more of the latter than I am the former. IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 17, 2021 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
... you will never know what it’s like for a girl or woman to carry a baby, let alone anything else associated with it.
How many children do you have, teasel? Are Jwhop and I the only parents currently posting on this thread? Should the rest of you then sit down and shut up?
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teasel
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posted March 20, 2021 06:28 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/19/women-harmed-every-day-invisible -men I’ve edited out the long article, but you can read the link. I don’t care if you think my argument is **** , shura. Women shouldn’t be put to death, for having abortions. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer
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posted March 21, 2021 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by shura:
How many children do you have, teasel?Are Jwhop and I the only parents currently posting on this thread? Should the rest of you then sit down and shut up?
This is not just an issue for parents, it is an issue about women's bodies, therefore it's every woman's issue. ------------------
Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant
- Robert Louis Stevenson
(whatever you feed will grow) IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 21, 2021 11:49 AM
I think the issue of abortion and women's choice calls for nuanced thinking, and no absolutism. Certainly death penalty is not warranted. Everything is not black and white.Many women who have abortion carry a lot of pain during and after the abortion. Here is the compelling abortion story of one travel blogger I used to watch: Pregnancy Story Part 1 https://youtu.be/GkfDIK2Rsmk Pregnancy Story Part 2 https://youtu.be/yx-ZGNbsNr0 IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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posted March 22, 2021 03:15 PM
I think its interesting that the anti mask group is the mostly the same as the anti abortion group.They don't want to wear masks because its "my body my choice", but then when it comes to abortion "the government can decide what women do with their bodies" Doesn't add up
I can think of a lot of things I'd like to tell men to do with their bodies lol, but being drafted into war or having forced decision about having children aren't on the table
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Belage
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posted March 22, 2021 10:43 PM
So we are going to compare the absolute certainty of killing someone (the fetus/baby/whatever you choose to call it depending on how you feel about it) through abortion with the very small possibility of killing someone by not wearing a mask?Did you miss the CDC's study that showed that counties that had mask mandates had less than 2% difference in terms of Covid rates and death compared with the counties that didn't have mask mandates? I am happy to reprint it here. IP: Logged |
Belage
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 22, 2021 10:49 PM
And as a pro-choice person, I am going to say that even at my most rabid on the issue, I always felt a little off that we decided if the life inside would be called a fetus or a baby depending on how we felt about it.For instance, when a friend would tell me she was pregnant, I never knew if I should rejoice with her as in You're going to have a BABY!! or if I should be ready to support her in her choice to abort the FETUS. I always had to wait for my cue from the woman to know what word I would use to refer to the life growing inside of her. If you don't want it, it is a FETUS.
If you want it, it is a BABY. Something ain't right and every single one of us knows it deep down at our core. But I still support choice. Some people shouldn't be parents. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted March 22, 2021 11:46 PM
My issue with cloth or paper masks is that they are worthless. That’s why the doctors who take care of COVID patients wear N-95 masks—because they don’t want to catch it.IP: Logged |
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