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teasel
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posted July 19, 2021 12:38 PM
  
It’s a fraudulent audit. There was nothing wrong with the election. Why aren’t we getting audits for the States that trumpy won? If there is so much legitimate concern over it all. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 19, 2021 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by jwhop:
Anyone can say anything but auditors have the actual ballots which were counted. Thousands were printed, complete with the candidate voted for already filled in...and, those ballots are [b]IDENTICAL in every respect to each other but different from official ballots and clearly manufactured to commit election fraud.Then, there's the mail in ballots with no creases. How do you stuff an 8 1/2" by 14" ballot into a mailing envelope without any folds or creases?? Here's the problem for democrats and their political propaganda artists..the American press; auditors have the actual ballots to examine. Many of those ballots were printed on different paper than the official ballots, thinner paper stock and it's obvious those ballots were manufactured and inserted into the election to commit election fraud. Stay tuned, these audits of the 2020 election are just getting started in earnest. First in Maricopa County Arizona, then Fulton County Georgia, then Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, then Michigan and then, Nevada. Massive election fraud and massive voter fraud. Wait until the voter canvassing starts and it's found voters voted from vacant lots, from government offices, 50 votes from the same residential address, votes from residences where the voter didn't live...and never did live...etc, etc, etc! [/B]
Interesting. Not having seen the ballots firsthands, I have to rely on what people on both sides are saying and try to form an honest, unbiased opinion. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 19, 2021 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
It’s a fraudulent audit. There was nothing wrong with the election. Why aren’t we getting audits for the States that trumpy won? If there is so much legitimate concern over it all.
It's a fraudulent audit, everyone! IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 4577
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posted July 19, 2021 01:58 PM
@ Jhwop I submitted your latest reply to my friend and this is what he had to say: They are probably confusing mail ballots with early voting ballots, which is what cyber ninja did. The ballots that were “unofficial” were printed at polling stations. That’s why different paper. Those ballots are still subject to the same controls - nobody can cast if they are not eligible to vote. Again, standard post election quality control checks ballots cast against the list of people casting ballots. And you can read from the AP article about people added to the list at different times. Regarding the pre-printed ballots with candidate names already filled out. I don’t think even the ninjas claimed that. Also keep in mind that the ninjas are partisan and not independent. The CEO was claiming DT won before they were ever contacted to do the audit. They have zero experience in conducting election audits. They have been changing procedures during the audit which they are not supposed to do. And judging by their senate testimony, they don’t even understand election processes. Like confusing the lists and making claims about people being added to the lists. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 19, 2021 04:39 PM
^^^ as I am trying to wrap my mind around the different opposite viewpoints, I am thinking, my friend's explanation about the "unofficial" ballots should be easily verified.If I am not mistaken, provisional ballots are the ones printed at the polling stations. Prior to the audit, there has to be a record kept of how many provisional ballots were used and not only should it closely match the number of "unofficial" ballots, it should account for that number. If cyber Ninja has already accounted for the number of provisional ballots, AND in addition to them, it found those other "unofficial" ballots, then the explanation given by my friend does not hold water. IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 19, 2021 07:44 PM
So I went back to my friend with my thoughts on his claim that the unofficial ballots are actually ballots that were printed at the polling station, which would qualify them as provisional ballots, and he has not gotten back to me. If I can get to the bottom of this, I will know which side is lying and which side is telling the truth. IP: Logged |
jwhop
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From: Madeira Beach, FL USA
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2021 09:31 PM
The people doing the forensic audit in Maricopa County Arizona are professional auditors. They wouldn't mistake early voting ballots for mail in ballots. Besides which, ballots have coding numbers so I consider that argument to be a non starter.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted July 19, 2021 09:56 PM
^^ Perhaps, but I don't want to make any assumption. There is too much at stake and I prefer to not give anyone the benefit of the doubt. My liberal friend has not gotten back to me. I don't know if he is stumped by my question or just too busy. i need to see from a verifiable source/link the breakdown of what Cyber Ninja is listing. If they are listing the provisional ballots separately from the "unofficial" ballots of dispute, then I will know that they are not confusing the two as the left claims. IP: Logged |
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