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Belage
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posted April 26, 2021 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have no idea what the outcome will be, but what is happening right now in Maricopa deserves its own thread.

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posted April 27, 2021 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cyber-ninjas-hired-by-arizona-senate-to-recount-maricopa-countys-ballots-asks-court-to-keep-its-procedures-secret/

Why would they want anonymity when it comes to a recount? That's ridiculous. On top of that, there was no fraud, but a normal recount should show that.

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posted April 27, 2021 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is not a recount of the Maricopa county, Arizona vote.

This is a full blown forensic audit of the ballots, the votes, the machines, signature matching and in person canvassing of addresses to find out if the person who voted lives at that address.

It's 2.1 million ballots under a microscope.

And teasel, you probably are the last person here anyone should listen to about a subject you know nothing about.

Democrats and the lap dog press are in total meltdown mode over this audit. What are democrats desperate to hide?

You can watch the forensic audit on 9 cameras set up to monitor the audit. The cameras are on 24/7 and it's my understanding they will be on for the 40 days the forensic audit will probably take to complete.
http://azaudit.org/

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posted April 27, 2021 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jwhop:
This is not a recount of the Maricopa county, Arizona vote.

This is a full blown forensic audit of the ballots, the votes, the machines, signature matching and in person canvassing of addresses to find out if the person who voted lives at that address.

It's 2.1 million ballots under a microscope.

And teasel, you probably are the last person here anyone should listen to about a subject you know nothing about.

Democrats and the lap dog press are in total meltdown mode over this audit. What are democrats desperate to hide?

You can watch the forensic audit on 9 cameras set up to monitor the audit. The cameras are on 24/7 and it's my understanding they will be on for the 40 days the forensic audit will probably take to complete.
http://azaudit.org/


I don't care what you think about me. What they're asking shouldn't be allowed.

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posted April 27, 2021 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do Dems fear if there is nothing there to be found?

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posted April 27, 2021 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do Dems fear if there is nothing there to be found?

What do these people fear? Why do they want to keep their actions private, when it comes to information and ballots that aren't their own?

I'm not worried, as long as they're honest about what they're doing, and not trying to hide things. I don't see anyone in a total meltdown.

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posted April 27, 2021 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
What do these people fear? Why do they want to keep their actions private, when it comes to information and ballots that aren't their own?

I'm not worried, as long as they're honest about what they're doing, and not trying to hide things. I don't see anyone in a total meltdown.


With 9 cameras running 24/7 which cover the entire audit floor, which anyone can click on and view, no one THERE is trying to hide anything.

On the other hand, democrats went to court trying to shut down the forensic audit. They lost and the audit continues. Obviously, democrats are trying to hide the election fraud that occurred in Arizona...and other states as well. Audits of other state ballots is coming.

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posted April 28, 2021 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://twitter.com/marceelias/status/1387223365283467266

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posted April 28, 2021 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If there's nothing to find with this forensic audit, then nothing will be found. So why are democrats so desperate to stop the forensic audit of the Maricopa County Arizona vote?

So, which part of the voting fraud listed on this thoroughly researched chart are democrats so deathly afraid the Arizona audit will find?

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posted April 28, 2021 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last Friday, 4/23, democrats went to court to get a temporary restraining order to shut down the forensic audit of the Maricopa Arizona ballots. The judge agreed, IF...democrats posted a $1 million bond to offset costs. Democrats declined.

Today, democrats went after a TRO in front of different judge.

DENIED

Not only denied but with a lecture from the judge. The Arizona Senate has the legal authority to call for an audit and set up procedures to carry it out, so long as the audit procedures conform to state laws.

Democrats are desperate to stop auditors from finding what they say isn't there, voter and election fraud. So desperate are democrats that they hired about 100 activist lawyers to shut down the audit.

Not working!

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posted April 28, 2021 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This was not supposed to happen.

The shadow organization had "fortified" the election and had successfully completed its shadow work. Or so it thought, and it felt safe to come out of the shadow with the self-congratulatory Time magazine article and take a public bow.

This was not supposed to happen.

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posted April 28, 2021 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always maintained that the Time magazine article omitted the most important part, the voter fraud issue.

We are being asked to believe that a "cabal of powerful people" did all the things described in the article, but when it comes to actually rigging the election, they decided NO, let's just leave the outcome of ALL our shadowy efforts to voters decisions.

They were going to leave the final outcome to chance??? To voters' whims???

It goes against everything I Know about human nature.

Anyway, I am just an observer.

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posted April 28, 2021 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just the first domino.

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posted April 30, 2021 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope my information is correct that the auditors are heading to Michigan next.

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posted May 03, 2021 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/05/03/obvious-goal-arizona-recount-injecting-more-doubt-2020-results/

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posted June 19, 2021 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they are done with the audit.

Now, what's next?

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posted July 17, 2021 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Preliminary findings from the audit:

https://youtu.be/b8KQZRCTlwk

74k Ballots that were returned without any records of them being sent out. Where did they come from??? I bet most if not all of them were Biden votes.

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posted July 17, 2021 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nothing wrong was found. I’ve seen the news, too.

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posted July 18, 2021 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nothing wrong was found. I’ve seen the news, too.


They found nothing? I wouldn’t call what you watch “news.” President Trump won Arizona. By a lot! The audit found over 100,000 irregularities. Wisconsin is next.

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posted July 18, 2021 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nothing wrong was found. I’ve seen the news, too.



Can you please post a link that proves that nothing was found? Thanks!

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posted July 18, 2021 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You’re about to get a link to some leftist nut job’s tweet.

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posted July 18, 2021 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL! I am afraid so but I am going to give her the benefit of the doubt and assume maybe she has a link that pertains to show with factual points that the Maricopa forensic audit found nothing, instead of someone just tweeting an opinion that nothing was found.

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posted July 18, 2021 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doug Logan, CEO of Cyber Ninjas, told senators that auditors couldn’t find any record of Maricopa County sending more than 74,000 mail-in ballots and also discovered that around 18,000 people voted, but were taken off voter rolls “soon after the election.” He also noted that there were “11,326 people who were not on the voter rolls on Nov. 7, 2020, but appeared on the rolls on Dec. 4, 2020, and 3,981 people who voted after registering after Oct. 15, 2020.”

https://www.theepochtimes.c om/arizona-senate-leader-states-11-electors-cannot-be-recalled-after-maricopa-audit_3906710.html?utm_source=sharenewsnoe

To those who say this is a lie, the CEO is not pulling this out of his rear end. He has proofs, he has records to back up what he is saying.

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posted July 19, 2021 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the interest of fairness and truth finding, I am going to reprint what my lib friend sent me:

By Jonathan J. Cooper | AP
July 17, 2021|Updated yesterday at 6:50 p.m. EDT

PHOENIX — Former President Donald Trump issued three statements in two days falsely claiming that voting fraud and irregularities cost him Arizona’s electoral votes.

Trump relied on comments made Thursday by contractors hired by state Senate Republicans to oversee a partisan review of the 2020 vote count in Maricopa County, which includes metro Phoenix.

The “forensic audit,” as Senate GOP leaders are calling their review, is overseen by Cyber Ninjas, a small computer security firm with no election experience before Trump began questioning the 2020 results. Its CEO, Doug Logan, spread false conspiracy theories about the election before he was hired to lead the Arizona review.

Logan and Ben Cotton, a digital forensics analyst working on the audit, described issues they say need further review. Trump has parroted them as evidence the election results are tainted.

County officials and elections experts say the claims are false and based on a misunderstanding of election materials, which they say creates an appearance of irregularities where none exists.

Trump laid out his claims most specifically in a statement Friday night. A look at the irregularities he alleges in that statement:

TRUMP: “168,000 fraudulent ballots printed on illegal paper (unofficial ballots)”

THE FACTS: All of that is false. The ballots were not unofficial or printed on illegal paper, and even Logan never alleged they were fraudulent.

Logan pointed to ballots with the printing slightly offset between the front and back. He claimed this could cause votes to be counted for the wrong candidate if ink from one side bleeds through to another. He said the alignment issues were mostly from polling-place ballots, which are printed onsite, and said about 168,000 ballots were cast that way. The overwhelming majority of Arizona voters cast ballots by mail.

“We are seeing a lot of very thin paper stock being used especially on Election Day,” Logan added.

The allegation harkens back to the debunked “Sharpiegate” conspiracy theory that arose in the days after the election. Election experts say bleed-through doesn’t affect the vote count because bubbles on one side of a ballot don’t align with those on the other. Ballots that can’t be read are flagged and duplicated by a bipartisan team.

Arizona’s election procedures manual says only that ballots “must be printed with black ink on white paper of sufficient thickness to prevent the printing from being discernible on the reverse side the ballot.” Maricopa County uses 80 pound Votesecur paper from Rolland, which is among the papers approved by Dominion Voting Systems, which makes the county’s tabulation equipment, said Fields Moseley, a county spokesman.

Logan did not provide any evidence that alignment problems affected the vote count and said the issue needs more analysis.

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TRUMP, citing “74,000 mail in ballots received that were never mailed (magically appearing ballots).”

THE FACTS: No, there were no magically appearing ballots. He is alleging that the number of filled-out ballots received in the mail by election officials exceeded the number of people who had asked earlier for mail-in ballots, by 74,000. But that’s not at all what happened.

The claim mischaracterizes reports created for political parties to track who has voted early so they can target their get-out-the-vote efforts.

One report tracks all requests that voters make for early ballots, either by mail or in person, up to 11 days before the election. The other report tracks all ballots received through the day before the election. That leaves a 10-day window during which people who vote in-person but don’t request a mail ballot would appear on one report but not the other.___

TRUMP, claiming “11,000 voters were added to the voter rolls AFTER the election and still voted.”

THE FACTS: There’s nothing untoward about voters rolls growing after Election Day. The rolls are simply updated to reflect people whose provisional ballots are added to the tally after election officials verify that they were eligible to vote.

The allegation that the updated tally was the result of electoral wrongdoing first came from Logan this past week, when he told state lawmakers of “11,326 people that did not show up on the Nov. 7 version of the voter rolls, after votes were cast, but then appeared on the Dec. 4 voter rolls.”

Maricopa County officials said Logan is probably referring to provisional ballots, which are cast by people who do not appear on the voter rolls or don’t have the proper identification on Election Day. They’re only counted if the voter later shows he or she was eligible to vote. To be eligible, such voters must have registered before the deadline.

“These go through a rigorous verification process to make sure that the provisional ballots cast are only counted if the voter is eligible to vote in the election,” Maricopa County officials wrote on Twitter. “This happens after Election Day. Only eligible voters are added to the voter rolls.”

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TRUMP, alleging “all the access logs to the machines were wiped, and the election server was hacked during the election.”

THE FACTS: That flies in the face of the evidence. Maricopa County’s election server is not connected to the internet and independent auditors found no evidence the election server was hacked.

Trump’s hacking allegation refers to the unauthorized download of public data from the county’s voter registration system. That system, which is connected to the internet and broadly accessible to political parties and election workers, is not linked to the election management system, the web of ballot counters, computers and servers that tallies votes.

The election management system is “air gapped,” or kept disconnected from the rest of the county’s computer network and the wider internet. Two firms certified by the U.S. Election Assistance Commission to test voting systems found Maricopa County’s machines were not connected to the internet and did not have malicious hardware or software installed.

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TRUMP: “Arizona shows Fraud and Voting Irregularities many times more than would be needed to change the outcome of the Election.”

THE FACTS: Not so. The number of potential fraud cases is far smaller than President Joe Biden’s margin of victory in Arizona.

County election officials identified 182 cases where voting problems were clear enough that they referred them to investigators for further review, according to an Associated Press investigation. So far, only four cases have led to charges, including those identified in a separate state investigation. No one has been convicted. No person’s vote was counted twice.

Biden won Arizona by 10,457 votes out of 3.4 million cast. Of the four cases that have resulted in criminal charges, two involved Democratic voters and two involved Republicans

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posted July 19, 2021 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone can say anything but auditors have the actual ballots which were counted. Thousands were printed, complete with the candidate voted for already filled in...and, those ballots are IDENTICAL in every respect to each other but different from official ballots and clearly manufactured to commit election fraud.

Then, there's the mail in ballots with no creases. How do you stuff an 8 1/2" by 14" ballot into a mailing envelope without any folds or creases??

Here's the problem for democrats and their political propaganda artists..the American press; auditors have the actual ballots to examine. Many of those ballots were printed on different paper than the official ballots, thinner paper stock and it's obvious those ballots were manufactured and inserted into the election to commit election fraud.

Stay tuned, these audits of the 2020 election are just getting started in earnest. First in Maricopa County Arizona, then Fulton County Georgia, then Pennsylvania, then Wisconsin, then Michigan and then, Nevada.

Massive election fraud and massive voter fraud. Wait until the voter canvassing starts and it's found voters voted from vacant lots, from government offices, 50 votes from the same residential address, votes from residences where the voter didn't live...and never did live...etc, etc, etc!

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