posted February 19, 2022 05:03 PM            

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You had Aboriginals squaring off against Aboriginals, I doubt you'd have something like that happen in the US.

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We have. Google AIM as one example.

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The Truckers did exactly that...shove there way to prove a point..not the accepted social norm here.

When they broke social norm thats when the backlash comes.

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I don't understand what you are getting at here. You seem to be accusing Canadians of behaving in a manner not Canadian. These are Canadians protesting, yes? They are not in a foreign country. Are members of the Quebec sovereignty movement also western outliers not conforming to modern Canadian stereotypes? Vaguely curious.

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I say again...nothing is straight forward here!!!.

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On the contrary, it is quite straightforward. You are complicating the issue with perhaps mildly interesting but ultimately irrelevant details in a bid to rationalize state tyranny. In short, youre distracting yourself. As if "broken social norms" (quelle horreur!) trumps the broken sacred contract between a civilized people and their elected government!

Decent folks don't care about tangential Canadian fun facts. Decent folks don't give a damn if the trampled woman is a fly over country hick itching for provincial independence.
Decent folks care that an unarmed, peaceful protestor was trampled by a horse ridden by a jackbooted thug cop in the pay of the state. So much for "passive" Trudeau, eh?
Sorry but the rest really isn't important.

posted February 19, 2022 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
This is a trial run for what they plan here to silence free speech. It won’t work here.

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It's already working. Hubris won't save your asss.

I am seeing reports of a few riot cops crying, distraught over their deeds against peaceful protestors. Well, that's a shame I suppose, and yet still they obey orders. History shows us that whether distraught or eager, most will obey orders. That's the majority for ya.

It's crucial now that those few (the "fringe minority", if you will) able to recognize and resist growing tyrannical powers also recognize those fellow citizens who, however regrettably, appease, encourage, and tolerate tyrannical powers. That is a sad, sorry place to be but your life may depend on it. The appeasers are as dangerous as the state - in a real way they *are* the state! Without them, the Tyrant falls. The time for peaceful debate is drawing to a close. We are moving into that phase where political dissidents are threatened, imprisoned, and unpersoned. We know what the next phase involves.

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The people that are truly willing to fight this to the end and willing to go to jail for this are from out west....they have nothing to lose in this.

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Ah, yes, the ones with nothing to lose.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago

posted February 19, 2022 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by DualGemV2:
You deserve a big fail at understanding Canadian culture....I won't hold it against you .

Canadians are not known for being direct in your face people. It's a common trait that irritates Americans and something they don't fully understand.

Any one that's too up front, direct in your face.....regardless if your case is valid or not is frowned upon.

The Truckers did exactly that...shove there way to prove a point..not the accepted social norm here.

When they broke social norm thats when the backlash comes.

If I was in Japan I would educate myself to respect there social norms before making wrong assumptions on how they interact with each other then do something perceived out of character.

Canadians are known for traditionally being very passive...even Trump complained about Trudeau's passiveness when he would meet him.

Not saying I agree with this Canadian trait...but it's something to keep in mind when dealing with people up here.

Again as I said in a previous post the legal jurisdiction would fall too more to the Premiers, not the PM..every province is pretty much its own country.

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It seems to me you are spending a lot of time on supposed "Canadian" personality traits that could also be seen as stereotypes, and evading the fundamental issue I posed in my post to you.

The issue is freedom. What it means to you, what it means to others; can you respect what it mean to others? how much of freedom are you willing to cede to government in return for whatever "security" they claim to give you. Those issues are fundamental to any country that consider itself to be a democracy. Canada is no exception.

posted February 19, 2022 07:27 PM            

She's also been involved in alot of similar fringe party movements that embrace similar ideals.

This has been her biggest break so far.

If you read the news of all the people getting arrested it's primarily people from out west.

I don't need the news to know where there from anyway..."

I see you offer no sources for your comments, just your own feelings.

There is a tendency for people to believe/feel that others think and feel the same way they do. How do you account for the fact that people in Ottawa are bringing food, blankets and fuel to the truckers and supporting them in their protest? That disabled woman who got run down and injured when a Mountie trampled her with his horse is not from 'out west'.

POLL: Do you support the truckers' Freedom Convoy 2022 protest in Ottawa?

posted February 20, 2022 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Look at this way.

That means the truckers are winning and Trudeau is unable to maintain control unless he goes full on repression. Tyrants gotta do what they gotta do to stay in power.

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posted February 20, 2022 07:13 PM            

Rather than investigate, the Fox reporter (and I use that term loosely) ran with a rumor the injured protestor had died. This was quickly enough proven false by independent journalists and several fellow protestors on the ground. The trampled upon protestor suffered a dislocated shoulder.

Now maybe teasel knows all this (unlikely) and maybe she doesn't, but the crux of it is she doesn't *want* to know.* An ironically similar state of mind to the Fox reporter who *wanted* to believe the protestor was killed because it made for a better story.

*Note I am here giving teasel the benefit of the doubt that she doesn't get off on seeing elderly Native women trampled by police horses.