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Dhyana
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posted October 03, 2024 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jeff Clark weights in on Jack Smith's 165 page motion:

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Why is it [Jack Smith's motion] a completely lawless way to proceed?

First of all, it’s violated - this is Jack Smith’s new 165 pager, it’s violated President Trump’s procedural right - once Jack Smith filed a superseding indictment - to move to dismiss that indictment. We’re not going to see that document from President Trump now until November 7th. Hopefully, the election will be wrapped up by then. But it’s clear that basically we’re dealing with the fact that Jack Smith gets to launch his October surprise, dirty up President Trump, and that flips the ordinary order, which is under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 12, President Trump should have gotten to move first after Jack Smith filed his superseding indictment. He’s been stripped of that right by Judge Chutkan. So that’s a procedural violation.


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posted October 03, 2024 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But there are also constitutional violations. All of the key amendments, and there are three of them, that protects the rights of criminal defendants are being violated here.

First, the Fourth Amendment. Clearly, some of the purported evidence or statements in this 165 pager involved information that they developed through warrants. None of that information should really be entered into the public record until and unless President Trump gets the opportunity to challenge that evidence in a suppression hearing because the evidence might have been developed unlawfully. And we know that various giant warrants that were issued or warrants that were issued in violation of President Trump’s executive and other privileges were issued. And so all of that should have been hashed out first. This manner of proceeding by Judge Chutkan is just steamrolling over the Fourth Amendment rights.


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posted October 03, 2024 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then, there’s the Fifth Amendment and the Fifth Amendment guarantees due process. I’ve already mentioned how President Trump’s due process rights in the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure have been violated. But also President Trump, none of this evidence should come in. A lot of it is opinion evidence. A lot of it is various advisors of President Trump saying that they thought that he lost the election. But that’s opinion information, right? And it’s not the kind of thing that is free from President Trump and his lawyers challenging in order to try to keep that information out. So those due process rights are being violated as well.

Next, the Sixth Amendment

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posted October 03, 2024 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And then, there’s the Sixth Amendment. The Sixth Amendment guarantees the right of criminal defendants to confront their accusers, and not just to confront at any time but to confront at meaningful times. If all of this information that’s coming in from grand juries or warrants or from other interviews that the FBI conducted is being all slammed together in one hodge podge of a document, President Trump can’t push back on any of that with the people right in front of him and right in front of his trial lawyers to guarantee that the Sixth Amendment confrontation clause rights are protected. So you have three of the biggest provisions of the Bill of Rights, three out of the 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights being violated by this process. It’s really amazing.

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posted October 03, 2024 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And then there are also violations of the Trump v. U.S. immunity decision on July 1st. We have the fact that I don’t see how much of any of this evidence comes in under the Evidentiary Exclusionary Rule that was created in the Trump v. U.S. case to recognize that you need to protect the internal deliberations of the Justice Department. So, that’s also being violated.

Jack Smith has purported to say well he has to redact information about who these witnesses are but redactions are very transparent. You can slice through them and media has already begun that process. I’ve begun that process personally. So that was all just a smokescreen. It’s a smokescreen designed to make it seem as if it were legally plausible to release this 165 pager in the final month of the election and it’s not.


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posted October 03, 2024 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Jeff Clark has laid out looks like ample grounds for Chutkan's impeachment.

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posted October 03, 2024 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting note by Clark:

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...that nowhere in the signature attribution of the filing itself, is the U.S. Dept of Justice identified as the institution granting Jack Smith legal authorization for the prosecution. As Jeff Clark notes, “it raises the question of whether use of any Justice Department organ to go after a former President of the United States is constitutional and could comport with the Supreme Court’s July 1, 2024, immunity decision in Trump v. United States.”

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/10/03/jack-smith-files-165-page-re-re-revised-indictment-weaving-a-lawfare-story-for-media-consumption/#more-264743

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posted October 04, 2024 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
[b]Jack Smith's Weak, Watered-Down Election Interference Gambit

http://www.declassified.live/p/jack-smiths-weak-watered-down-election [/B]


So you were claiming this, why?

If he did nothing wrong. It seems that trump was a tad upset, Randall.

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posted October 04, 2024 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He had a meltdown during the debate.
http://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-had-caps-meltdown-041955320.html
http://youtu.be/chIsUyT5mVg?si=aqDOobE62bsHdi4Z

He had a meltdown after the new evidence was released.

He’s had a lot of meltdowns.

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posted October 04, 2024 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Meltdown? No, he hasn’t. The left is on perpetual meltdown. That’s just his jam. Nothing gets to him. Nothing. He just enjoys making people think that. Like with his tax returns. Libtards’ heads exploded. Then there was nothing to see there. Well, I stand corrected. One thing did genuinely upset him. When he got 7 million more votes than the first time and had the election stolen by a corpse. But it is just going to make this win so much sweeter.

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posted October 04, 2024 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am seeing so many attacks on democracy that eclipse January 6th.


Gordon Sundland, former Ambassador to the EU

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posted October 04, 2024 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dhyana:
Interesting note by Clark:

...that nowhere in the signature attribution of the filing itself, is the U.S. Dept of Justice identified as the institution granting Jack Smith legal authorization for the prosecution. As Jeff Clark notes, 妬t raises the question of whether use of any Justice Department organ to go after a former President of the United States is constitutional and could comport with the Supreme Court痴 July 1, 2024, immunity decision in Trump v. United States.


Good catch! The question was raised by Justice Thomas and Judge Cannon dismissed the documents case on this ground.

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posted October 04, 2024 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxNoUnxN_cs

LEAKED AUDIO: Trump planned to falsely claim victory, according to Bannon

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posted October 04, 2024 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many times have I clicked on your links to find that what you claimed was there was misrepresented?

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Dhyana
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posted October 06, 2024 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dhyana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jack Smith’s ‘October Surprise’ was not that surprising…and that is the problem

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4917230-justice-department-october-surprise/

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