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Topic: President Trump: The U.S. Will Take Over The Gaza Strip
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teasel
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posted February 07, 2025 05:14 AM
  
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Originally posted by PlutoWasHere:
Trump doesn’t like human rights, diplomacy or accountability in general, does he?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2p19l24g2o
He really doesn’t. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 07, 2025 12:37 PM
No one wanted Palestinians “erased.” You truly imagine things that are not true and lose touch with reality. I wanted Hamas to be destroyed. Hamas. While you wanted Israel to be destroyed. We are not the same. Hamas are the bad guys. Killing babies, raping women, and taking hostages are not what good guys do.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 10, 2025 11:46 AM
Trump says Palestinians have “no rights to return” under his plan. So no, it is not temporary. And yes, it is ethnic cleansing. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/10/trump-buy-gaza-plan IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 10, 2025 03:44 PM
I'll be watching that interview at 6:00 pm EST tonight and see if President Trump actually said that. The media are notorious about misquoting him.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 11, 2025 02:23 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
No one wanted Palestinians “erased.” You truly imagine things that are not true and lose touch with reality. I wanted Hamas to be destroyed. Hamas. While you wanted Israel to be destroyed. We are not the same. Hamas are the bad guys. Killing babies, raping women, and taking hostages are not what good guys do.
I didn’t want Israel to be destroyed, you’re lying, and once again, I’m so very glad that we are not the same. I am against the genocide that Netanyahu has been running. There is a big difference. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 11, 2025 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I'll be watching that interview at 6:00 pm EST tonight and see if President Trump actually said that. The media are notorious about misquoting him.
Trump plans to take ownership of Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/video/6368595455112 He’s still talking about moving them. And in the meantime, he isn’t going to rebuild for them, he wants to build a resort. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 11, 2025 12:43 PM
You supported the protesters calling for the destruction of Israel. From the river to the sea! IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted February 11, 2025 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Trump plans to take ownership of Gaza. http://www.foxnews.com/video/6368595455112 He’s still talking about moving them. And in the meantime, he isn’t going to rebuild for them, he wants to build a resort.
I think he is bluffing. I think this is a strategy to force the hands of the other middle east countries to help rebuild Gaza. I think he is bluffing, and I hope he is, because if he really means it, it is a very crazy plan. And the MAGA base will not be behind him going through with it.
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Dumuzi
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posted February 11, 2025 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Netanyahu only waited for a ceasefire, until rumpy was about to be inaugurated. Netanyahu is the one who was bombing the place! That's why it's a terrible place to be right now. For **** 's sake, the gaslighting is massive. The bombs that Netanyahu demanded. the rubble left by HIM.We have no business owning Gaza, and turning it into a resort area, as rump wants to do. No business whatsoever.
Business owning it or not from a purely "Is this good for us?" standpoint it would be. Is it unfortunate that people will be put out? Absolutely, but all things considered there's no peaceful resolution for them really. Not with things as they stand, so rather than consider just what would be correct in a human welfare sense it becomes priority to consider what would be beneficial outside of that. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 11, 2025 04:33 PM
I still get no reply about what should be done. Should we just let them all stay there and die? What solution do the detractors suggest? Hating President Trump is not offering a solution. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted February 11, 2025 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
Everyone is saying that he's crazy, and stupid. Everyone except those who worship him, and say that he can do no wrong.
I don't worship him, understand why people dislike him, and absolutely get why people think he's crazy and stupid. However the moves he's making and wants to make do make sense in various lights and could be leveraged in ways that benefit over the longterm if they work out, they are risky though. I also think it's pretty clear the real game is underneath this, and that the things that have been in motion for longer than Trump even being president was a thought would have come to the surface regardless. The look would have been different is all. You look at the faces of people you share your country with and see enemies, they look back at you and see the same. If she had won this would be the same. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted February 11, 2025 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
It is certainly an outside the box idea.It could turn out to be a brilliant move. But I fear Gaza would become our Vietnam. This entire area is such a tinderbox of generational conflicts, fanaticism, ancient claims... I fail to see how it serves the US to take it over. Back away, President Trump! Back away!
It's prime land because it's sacred to people and heavily sought after, it's also strategically placed in an area where we have enemies. By turning a sought after area into a resort area people are able to use at a price you'd get a lot of business from various communities provided they don't take that as an insult and given the current state of things they have a good chance of preferring it if they can go and be safe. So it's $$$ and territory in a good position. It's risky though so the risk/reward might not prove profitable, but the logic actually isn't that bad as it's dual purpose. IP: Logged |
Dumuzi
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posted February 11, 2025 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I still get no reply about what should be done. Should we just let them all stay there and die? What solution do the detractors suggest? Hating President Trump is not offering a solution.
There are no solutions only ideals without a way to put them into motion or enough accountability to recognize that every and any move including installing said ideals will result in death and/or displacement. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 12, 2025 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I still get no reply about what should be done. Should we just let them all stay there and die? What solution do the detractors suggest? Hating President Trump is not offering a solution.
No reply? Why should they die at all? I’m not around all the time, and I was out all day. You ignore things, or turn them around on me, instead of answering questions, all the time. So, why should they have to die, if they stay? Nobody is threatening rump with that, as he talks about rebuilding, taking that land away from them. Could it just be that Netanyahu is a genocidal dick? We saw senators signing those bombs. Nikki Haley writing something like “get them all!” But a trump resort is cool? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 12, 2025 01:55 AM
I feel like I am talking to a child. Let me explain it to your level of understanding. If we just leave them there, they will die from the conditions in Gaza. There are bombs everywhere. The water is contaminated. Ambulances can’t even get in. Make sense? Whereas, they can prosper in new homes that are safe and clean and with access to food and water. Who would choose to stay and die? Once again, what is your solution? JUST OEY THEM STAY THERE AND DIE? Check. Good thinking. What questions if you’re have I not answered? I respond to your lunacy all the time.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 12, 2025 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I feel like I am talking to a child. Let me explain it to your level of understanding. If we just leave them there, they will die from the conditions in Gaza. There are bombs everywhere. The water is contaminated. Ambulances can’t even get in. Make sense? Whereas, they can prosper in new homes that are safe and clean and with access to food and water. Who would choose to stay and die? Once again, what is your solution? JUST OEY THEM STAY THERE AND DIE? Check. Good thinking. What questions if you’re have I not answered? I respond to your lunacy all the time.
Yes, because of Netanyahu. And the bombs you were happy were being dropped on them. You didn’t give a crap about Gaza prospering, until now. So clean it up, but don’t bring them back to their home. Rumpy gets a resort instead. I feel like I’m talking to someone who is being deliberately obtuse. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 12, 2025 02:22 AM
Republicans are suddenly all “poor gazans need a safe place to live” after supporting their mass slaughter since October 2023. When *I* said that, you called me an anti-Semite. Repeatedly. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 12, 2025 02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I feel like I am talking to a child. Let me explain it to your level of understanding. If we just leave them there, they will die from the conditions in Gaza. There are bombs everywhere. The water is contaminated. Ambulances can’t even get in. Make sense? Whereas, they can prosper in new homes that are safe and clean and with access to food and water. Who would choose to stay and die? Once again, what is your solution? JUST OEY THEM STAY THERE AND DIE? Check. Good thinking. What questions if you’re have I not answered? I respond to your lunacy all the time.
This is ethnic cleansing, Randall. Trump said very clearly the Palestinians don’t get the right to return. It’s a land grab. Trump is trying to gain a profit from this human tragedy by stealing land from people that are destitute. This would set a terrible precedent. This is not an acceptable solution. There are other options.
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Randall
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posted February 12, 2025 11:05 AM
No one here supported killing Palestinians. We supported (and still do) killing Hamas. You know, the animals who raped, savagely murdered, and beheaded babies. The people who use human shields. The people the Palestinians selected as their leader. IP: Logged |
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