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Topic: President Trump: The U.S. Will Take Over The Gaza Strip
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Randall
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posted February 04, 2025 07:14 PM
  
We will clear out the bombs, level the land, oversee the building of homes, and ensure it remains safe there. It will the Riviera of the Middle East!IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 04, 2025 09:45 PM
Netanyahu only waited for a ceasefire, until rumpy was about to be inaugurated. Netanyahu is the one who was bombing the place! That's why it's a terrible place to be right now. For **** 's sake, the gaslighting is massive. The bombs that Netanyahu demanded. the rubble left by HIM.We have no business owning Gaza, and turning it into a resort area, as rump wants to do. No business whatsoever. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 04, 2025 11:03 PM
If we take over, Gaza will be safe and secure. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 05, 2025 03:34 AM
Everyone is saying that he's crazy, and stupid. Everyone except those who worship him, and say that he can do no wrong.
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Randall
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posted February 05, 2025 08:05 AM
Oh, do you mean the majority of Americans? Because we love every day with President Trump reshaping the world. Those who don’t like it lost the election. This is our time.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 05, 2025 12:31 PM
This is awful, he wants to relocate Gaza citizens. He wants to get rid of the more than 1 million Palestinians that live there. That has a name, ethnic cleansing. A crime against humanity under the Geneva convention. https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/25/politics/trump-gaza-strip-jordan-egypt/index.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 05, 2025 03:07 PM
I have not heard that President Trump wants to relocate Palestinians.IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I have not heard that President Trump wants to relocate Palestinians.
He literally said he talked to the king of Jordan because he wants him to take on more Palestinians. And that he doesn’t believe Palestinians want to return. Even though he said the place had the potential to become the “Riviera of the Middle East”. That leaves no room for the Palestinians to return to their homes. The Riviera is a very expensive piece of real estate and a lot of Palestinians are impoverished. It reeks of ethnic cleansing. These are real people and that land is their home. He can’t treat it like a business project. It’s immoral. But it looks like he’s already backtracking. His intentions were very clear though. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hama s-official-says-trumps-remarks-about-taking-over-gaza-are-could-ignite-2025-02-05/
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PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 05:30 AM
Temporary? There are no guarantees they can return to their homes. Everything will be bulldozed. And they will have no say over what happens in Gaza. Words are being twisted again to suggest that they meant something different, but we’re not blind, we’re not deaf and we’re not stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g9xgj2429o.amp IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 09:58 AM
There it is! Right there on “Truth Social”. He indeed wants the Palestinians out of Gaza. Like I said, “ethnic cleansing”. He has no interest in letting Palestinians return to their homes. He thinks he can just relocate them without their consent. This is absolutely contrary to the Geneva convention. No wonder Trump has withdrawn the U.S. from the UN Human Rights Council. The U.S. now has a “robber baron” as president. https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-take-palestinians-out-of-gaza/ https://www.npr.org/2025/02/03/nx-s1-5285696/trump-un-human-rights-council-withdrawal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baron_(industrialist) IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 06, 2025 10:28 AM
Gaza is uninhabitable right now. Who would choose to stay there when they could have safe housing with clean water? If they choose to leave, that’s not a crime. They can return in ten years if they wish to. http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/analysis-opinion/artc-what-does-trump-re ally-want-to-do-with-gaza-analysis IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Gaza is uninhabitable right now. Who would choose to stay there when they could have safe housing with clean water? If they choose to leave, that’s not a crime. They can return in ten years if they wish to. http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/analysis-opinion/artc-what-does-trump-re ally-want-to-do-with-gaza-analysis
The keyword is “choose”. I didn’t see Trump mention anything about choice. He actually said they didn’t have a choice because Gaza is too bad of a place to live in right now. And it’s not a real choice when they basically put a knife to your throat, is it? Also what happens to the properties that have been owned by these families for generations? Will they have to buy it back from Trump or his son-in-law at rates they can’t afford? They take that land without permission from the original owners to develop it into expensive real estate, that’s theft. It’s a land grab, plain and simple. And extremely unethical.
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PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 12:20 PM
Imagine, you have a beautiful beach front property in Florida. It has been in your family’s possession for generations. A nasty oil spill makes it uninhabitable until it gets cleaned up. The culprit refuses to take any responsibility. A property developer tells you he will clean it up and build an expensive apartment building on the site to make his “investment” worth his while. If you can afford the rent he might let you return in ten years time, but there are no guarantees. You loose all decision making about the property. And you know your neighbor who doesn’t want you back is friends with the property developer. Does that sound fair to you in anyway?IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 06, 2025 01:44 PM
I’m sure people can stay if they want to. But who would? Bombs are everywhere. Homes are rubble. Water is contaminated. If President Trump does nothing, the quality of life for those in the area will continue to deteriorate. Their homes are already destroyed regardless. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Randall:
I’m sure people can stay if they want to. But who would? Bombs are everywhere. Homes are rubble. Water is contaminated. If President Trump does nothing, the quality of life for those in the area will continue to deteriorate. Their homes are already destroyed regardless.
So they should give up their homes? Forget they ever lived there? Forget their history and ancestors? They should just let real estate developers take their home country for a profit?
Where is the justice? Why does Trump want to gain a profit from this tragedy? Nowhere does he offer help, he only wants to do business. Can't you see how morally wrong this is? After WW2, the U.S. was a great ally to Europe and helped us with the Marshall Plan. Now the U.S. government would rather be like a vulture, picking the flesh of dying people. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 06, 2025 04:33 PM
So, what do you suggest? Do nothing? Leave the Palestinians with no choice but to stay there and die? They don't have anything there now but rubble and landmines. Is that a home? They have already lost their homes. Their children are not safe. President Trump is trying to restore the area. Rubio has confirmed that the relocation is temporary.
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PlutoWasHere
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posted February 06, 2025 05:24 PM
Rubio isn’t the president. Trump literally says Palestinians should be “resettled”, he never mentioned “temporary”. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 06, 2025 05:33 PM
Rubio clarified that it is temporary. President Trump never said it was permanent. He alluded that they might not want to return. Resettled? Yes. For around ten years. But you didn't answer me. What do you suggest be done? Nothing? Just leave them all there to die from accidental explosions or disease?IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted February 06, 2025 06:16 PM
It is certainly an outside the box idea.It could turn out to be a brilliant move. But I fear Gaza would become our Vietnam. This entire area is such a tinderbox of generational conflicts, fanaticism, ancient claims... I fail to see how it serves the US to take it over. Back away, President Trump! Back away! IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted February 06, 2025 07:39 PM
President Trump is certainly ambitious. He is a big idea person.IP: Logged |
Belage2
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posted February 06, 2025 10:59 PM
It might also be a ruse. He could be purposely pushing this idea in order to shame the middle East countries into rebuilding Gaza… what would they look like, letting the US fix Gaza and taking it over? The optics are not good for them…IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 07, 2025 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Rubio clarified that it is temporary. President Trump never said it was permanent. He alluded that they might not want to return. Resettled? Yes. For around ten years. But you didn't answer me. What do you suggest be done? Nothing? Just leave them all there to die from accidental explosions or disease?
There needs to be some kind of peace force and rebuilding, not just by one country. And the involving parties have to be held accountable for their actions, Hamas for terrorism and Israel for disproportionate violence. Whatever, the solution, it has to be supported in by the region. You can’t unilaterally claim to have a solution. That’s not how diplomacy works. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere
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posted February 07, 2025 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Belage2:
It is certainly an outside the box idea.It could turn out to be a brilliant move. But I fear Gaza would become our Vietnam. This entire area is such a tinderbox of generational conflicts, fanaticism, ancient claims... I fail to see how it serves the US to take it over. Back away, President Trump! Back away!
Ethnic cleansing is not an “out of the box idea”. It has happened in history before, and there’s a reason why we aren’t very supportive of it.
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PlutoWasHere
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posted February 07, 2025 01:29 AM
Trump doesn’t like human rights, diplomacy or accountability in general, does he?
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2p19l24g2o IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 07, 2025 05:13 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
So, what do you suggest? Do nothing? Leave the Palestinians with no choice but to stay there and die? They don't have anything there now but rubble and landmines. Is that a home? They have already lost their homes. Their children are not safe. President Trump is trying to restore the area. Rubio has confirmed that the relocation is temporary.
What do you care? You wanted them erased. You *wanted* Gaza to be flattened. IP: Logged |
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