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Dumuzi
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posted April 07, 2025 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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There's no blind allegiance in a savior. With me, it's just obvious as to what will happen. The only question for me is exactly how great things are going to be? The sky is the limit. We won't recognize this country in two years, and that is a very good thing. A little short-term pain for a lot of gain is a great trade-off. Meanwhile, Harris popped out from under a rock and said, "I told you so." She would rather the country go down in flames than for President Trump to be right. Good things are coming. Just hang on.

I agree we won't, but these things don't happen in a vacuum, unexpected moves elsewhere can force unexpected changes. Internal upheaval can make things go n unexpected ways. I'm not against suffering with reward, this isn't about that. It's that the way you speak makes it sound as though you believe every move Trump makes will unopposed meet its highest potential, and nothing will knock that off course or could possibly. Your words in that first post are that of someone who sees guarantees and has absolute trust in someone else, and power wielded over you that you're embracing wholeheartedly as saving the country from the NWO etc etc etc on the grounds that moves that were just made will work out perfectly and so will continued moves and no pushback from elsewhere will cause friction or threaten it. That's absolute trust in the idea that absolute power is both wielded in the first place and purely with your best interests in mind following that.

I fail to see how that's not blind in terms of a lack of zooming out. I assume your allegiance was thought about a good deal and these are the conclusions you've reached, not blind allegiance... blind faith in what you align yourself with. I'm fairly sure I said "faith" specifically and spoke about the various cause and effect outcomes of each move made and the risks of other parties making moves and so on. So I'm unsure why we've switched terms to continue that train of thought here, are we on different pages here? I tend to choose my words in such a way that there's nothing to really interpret under the surface, so there was no underlying subtext just so you know.

That all being said you're correct to say that when things are down there's opportunities for gain when one knows how to find them. There's ways to play what's here for personal benefit for everyone, I'm aware, but I see a lot more pieces than just those on the board and I see ways this can go in many directions. Some are good, others not so much.

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posted April 07, 2025 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Why are the fences back up around the White House?

Why do you ask these inane and disingenuous questions that have no meaningful answers. What victory is gained if you get some answer or another? I can tell you a million reasons why, but all of them have no value or weight in this discussion.

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posted April 08, 2025 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cnn.com/2025/04/08/investing/us-stock-market-dow-tariffs/index.html

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posted April 08, 2025 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When it comes to the fences, I remember maga telling me that they shouldn’t be needed, if the people wanted the occupant to be there. That was after maga overran the capitol, domestic terrorists trying to overthrow the government. Does trump think the people don’t want him there? Does he expect us to act like his pet terrorists?

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posted April 08, 2025 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The party of violence that burned down cities is asking about fences? Hilarious.

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posted April 09, 2025 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Apple apparently flew in phones themselves, to avoid tariffs? And Amazon has cancelled orders from china, over them.

I follow someone who started her own craft business in a January. In Los Angeles. Last week, she had to find new places to order her products, that are still expensive, but not four times as much, like the last suppliers, after the tariffs were starting.

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posted April 09, 2025 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He could have just taxed the billionaires.

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posted April 09, 2025 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So now I’m seeing that this was planned. Insider trading. How many people would be charged, like Martha Stewart was, if he hadn’t gutted the DOJ of people who would actually do their jobs?

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posted April 09, 2025 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's not insider trading. And Martha Stewart wasn't convicted of insider trading. You are batting a 1,000 at being wrong.

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posted April 12, 2025 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The tariffs are crushing farmers.
http://www.threads.net/@thetnholler/post/DIW6fS-vogt?xmt=AQGzc5sgHAF2mIMt7pYoeT3S5nKHryVeySHB4BA6VKlWpA

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posted April 12, 2025 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When all is said and done, farmers will come out on top just like they did during President Trump's last term.

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posted April 12, 2025 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If tariffs are so bad, why do all these other countries have them? Are their economies being destroyed? Why is it okay for them to apply high tariffs on us? All President Trump wants is fair trade.

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posted April 20, 2025 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dad just had his lightest day yet, when it comes to deliveries, and he's worried that the tariffs are to blame.

I've just seen this:
http://x.com/rooster_ohio/status/1913756962988106209

"Domestic freight out of LA is at the weakest levels (seasonally adjusted) it has been since 2020.

Up till now, the "Liberation day tariffs" have not been a factor in declining volumes out of S. Cal.

It is going to get worse."

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posted April 20, 2025 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://x.com/FreightAlley/status/1913664840138162656

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posted April 20, 2025 06:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you do without all that fear to comfort you?

Spoiler Alert: You would be happy.

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posted April 29, 2025 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/1ka9okm/comment/mpkzf0w/

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It's going to be sooner.

My husband is an OTR trucker and freight is already imploding. He just sat near 24 hours without a load, and all they were able to find him was 1 load with 460 miles. As of tomorrow morning he'll be sitting again. The dispatcher told him the load boards are starting to dry up.

All indicators are that shelves will go empty in around 2 weeks. People are going to freak out, especially when no re-supply is coming. We're in for major pain. I'd give it very generously 4 weeks before people are out in the streets screaming.


I'm getting scared. If the trucks have nothing to deliver, my dad has nothing to deliver. A lot of people are going to lose their jobs, and I'm also wondering what we're going to eat. And what about our pets???

This comment is from a thread in the Military subreddit, about a new executive order that will be challenged, I'm sure - but our Attorney General has stated that the possible arrest of SCOTUS, is not off the table. If they don't agree with what Trump wants to do.

I have a few friends - including some gorgeous friends in Canada - who have offered to help us, if we need it. But damn.

The post is about sending the military out to help the police, in three months (what people were worrying would happen on April 20th). It sounds like martial law, and those are military members who are concerned, in those comments.

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posted April 29, 2025 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I said, you are addicted to fear. That is complete and utter nonsense. You should find a hobby to occupy that idle mind of yours. You just let anyone pour crazy ideas into it. Seriously.

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posted April 29, 2025 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As I said, you are addicted to fear. That is complete and utter nonsense. You should find a hobby to occupy that idle mind of yours. You just let anyone pour crazy ideas into it. Seriously.

Those are not crazy ideas. Trump is making a big mess right now. It's going to lead to trade issues. It takes 30 days for stuff from China to reach California. Wallmart and Target have resumed their business with China but have warned for empty shelves. Give it a couple of weeks and you'll notice. And it's not very consistent to say you don't need anyone, while also claiming you have a problematic trade deficit and are too dependent on other countries. Trump is isolating the U.S. and it will have a long term impact.

Trump is also very authoritarian. How will he deal with mass protests if the results of his policies are turning people against him? He's likely going to use martial law. He already published an executive order to use the military for law enforcement. This fits a dictator playbook. It's very concerning.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/04/strengthening-and-unleashing-americas-law-enforcement-to-pursue-criminals-and-protect-innocent-citizens/

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posted April 29, 2025 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
China needs us. That is why they offer zero tariffs on several American products. They can keep their cheap trinkets and knock-offs and stolen IP. Someone had to force them to play by the rules and obey international law. They are about to have a currency deflation. What do your economists think about deflation?

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posted April 30, 2025 03:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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China needs us. That is why they offer zero tariffs on several American products. They can keep their cheap trinkets and knock-offs and stolen IP. Someone had to force them to play by the rules and obey international law. They are about to have a currency deflation. What do your economists think about deflation?

You think China only produces cheap trinkets? You have absolutely no idea how things are actually made and where everything in the supply chain comes from. Even if Boeings are "made in the U.S.", they're only assembled in the U.S. They're mostly made from parts that are manufactured in China and India.

Why are you being purposely ignorant? I know you're not stupid, Randall. Why are you feeding your brain with cherry picked news that only enforces what you want to see?

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